Oh, by the way, the black hole threat from that particle collider is greater than thought
Rather, Roberto Casadio of the University of Bologna in Italy and Sergio Fabi and Benjamin Harms of the University of Alabama say mini black holes could exist for much longer — perhaps even more than a second, a relative eternity in particle colliders, where most objects decay much faster.
Under such long-lived conditions, it becomes a race between how fast a black hole can decay — and how fast it can gobble up matter to grow bigger and prevent itself from decaying.
“We conclude that … the growth of black holes to catastrophic size does not seem possible. Nonetheless, it remains true that the expected decay times are much longer (and possibly >> 1 second) than is typically predicted by other models,” the three state in a brief paper posted at the scientific discussion Web site ArXiv.org.









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Racism!
Beagle on January 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM
lol
offroadaz on January 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM
The end of that article is pretty amusing
Ugly on January 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM
But will it stimulate the economy and create jobs???!!! Can it run for office and where can I find it’s PAC website???
robblefarian on January 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM
No worries … Obama has control such things and will evaporate the menacing black hole with a thought.
On second thought … if Obama can’t do that then maybe I will start worrying.
darwin on January 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM
fill it with Tarp money
rob verdi on January 27, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I like the new Fox News design.
amerpundit on January 27, 2009 at 2:26 PM
In Starcraft 2, the Protoss will be made to make blackholes and suck-in/destroy other flying vessels. It looks awesome. Can’t wait.
lorien1973 on January 27, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Global Economic problems to be solved this summer with a flip of the switch!
juanito on January 27, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Yeah – because it loads instantly compared to the old design!
juanito on January 27, 2009 at 2:28 PM
And here I thought the world was going to end in 2012…
Of all the things to be ahead of schedule!
rockbend on January 27, 2009 at 2:29 PM
First rule of black holes:
Don’t make one.
lorien1973 on January 27, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Maybe the White House IT team could lend them a hand.
wccawa on January 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Second rule of black holes: once you make one, stop digging.
Sue on January 27, 2009 at 2:32 PM
This just shows once again that what scientists say is true, may not necessarily be true. What is true on Monday, is not necessarily true on Tuesday. Which is fine. Except if you do dangerous things on Tuesday based on what you thought was true on Monday.
Nonetheless, the scientists at the collider will do their experiments come hell or high water. For them, this is like crack cocaine.
keep the change on January 27, 2009 at 2:32 PM
I thought we just elected the black hole.
portlandon on January 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Great.
Jaibones on January 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM
I thought they did turn that collider on once already, no?
JetBoy on January 27, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Can they just turn the damned thing off? Is that too simple for them?
Oink on January 27, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Lucky we have Obama in office
joey24007 on January 27, 2009 at 2:38 PM
No kidding. If ever there were a situation to which the phrase, “err on the side of caution” must be applied, you’d think it’d be in the creation of world gobbling black holes. Then again, it could be fun…
Weight of Glory on January 27, 2009 at 2:39 PM
BLACK HOLE 2012! WOOHOO! I wonder who will be it’s running mate? Hmmm…
robblefarian on January 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I thought the first rule of black holes was don’t talk about black hole club. Wait – I got that completely wrong.
juanito on January 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Will it suck up what’s left of my 401(k)?
paul006 on January 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Black hole: Instant cure for the recession.
madne0 on January 27, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Black holes are truly inclusive..
the_nile on January 27, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Yes, but they had the electron beam only go in one direction, as a test. One of the magnets wound up breaking so they have to fix that now.
I’m looking forward to the science we get out of it.
rbj on January 27, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Damn nerds, getting even for all those wedgies, swirlies, and wet willies administered over the years…
Wyznowski on January 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM
This might be a good thing. The next dimension might have a stronger economy than this one.
justfinethanks on January 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Thank the god of Our Many Understandings for Science!
mankai on January 27, 2009 at 2:52 PM
I’m sure somehow if a black hole starts devouring its surroundings, it will be Bush’s fault.
CP on January 27, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I can’t believe they are still tossing around this junk. If the LHC could destroy the world with a black whole, then it would already have happened, over and over again, from cosmic rays. We would be seeing huge explosions all over the galaxy as planets and stars went up (if we were still here somehow).
Count to 10 on January 27, 2009 at 2:58 PM
The ultimate irony would be if the black hole created lasted just long enough to grow just big enough, to swallow just the collider.
I would laugh so hard I would need supplementary oxygen.
keep the change on January 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM
They would be black implosions, not explosions.
I don’t understand the arguments, and so I am not in a position to dismiss them. But if the claim is that it can’t happen because otherwise we would have detected it, then I would feel more comfortable if they had actually spent some time looking for this stuff. Given that we can only account for 4% of the mass of the Universe, I am not convinced that we really understand all that is out there.
pedestrian on January 27, 2009 at 3:06 PM
As you can see, there’s nothing to worry about:
LHC Webcam
ZenDraken on January 27, 2009 at 3:06 PM
That would be entirely too funny!
Pulchritudinous Patriot on January 27, 2009 at 3:07 PM
LOL
Pulchritudinous Patriot on January 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM
You mean with the mother ship? They took that out. Mother ship’s a lot weaker now and you can build more than one.
Darth Executor on January 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Well, I’d rather be gobbled up quickly by a black hole than die more slowly under the yoke of the soon to be Socialist America.
LegendHasIt on January 27, 2009 at 3:12 PM
lulz
pseudonominus on January 27, 2009 at 3:22 PM
I think we should be worried. Lookit the black hole that is the Stiiiiiiiiimulous. That sucker keeps growing and expanding and eating everything around it.
Like Oprah.
Or Rosie.
Now I am worried!
LickyLicky on January 27, 2009 at 3:22 PM
ZenDraken on January 27, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Hilarious!
Ugly on January 27, 2009 at 3:24 PM
That sucks! It looked awesome in the demo. I thought it might be unbalanced. Ah well.
lorien1973 on January 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM
I’m about to start working on a project at my university making a software app to help LHC physicists. Does this qualify me as a mass murderer? Will I be able to receive U.N. protection and support? This is exciting news!
Eric12470210 on January 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM
1. Reading Fox News is not a good way to determine what might or might not happen in particle physics.
2. The researchers are Italian. Similar to 1. (Kidding! Don’t kill me, Italian colleagues!)
3. Math warning! The energy available to create a black hole at the LHC totals 14 TeV per interaction. That means that a black hole with a mass of 2.5E-20 grams could be created. What kind of area of influence would that be? (Schwartzchild radius) About 4E-50 m. Compared to a proton (2E-15 m) and an electron (1.5E-15 m) — that’s a hundred million billion billion billion times smaller than an electron.
Worse, its gravitational pull would be indescribably feeble. It couldn’t “suck” anything in without running straight into it.
Since the space inside and between atoms is vast nothingness for the most part, I’d be surprised if the black hole at that size, with nothing to guide it, encountered ANYTHING that it could eat within a second, much less enough to counter its evaporation.
The only real problem with the 1 sec. problem for me is that it makes detection of decay products impossible, since it’s probably left the detector far behind, and because we are used to things happening in 10E-24 seconds.
OK. So — don’t worry.
Prufrock on January 27, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Give me liberty or let me be swallowed up by an artificially created black hole.
I concur!
mankai on January 27, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Paging Dr. Freeman. Dr. Freeman to the white courtesy phone please.
TheUnrepentantGeek on January 27, 2009 at 3:40 PM
And we do, don’t we?
DarkCurrent on January 27, 2009 at 3:42 PM
LOL
DarkCurrent on January 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM
I had to keep reminding myself that I wasn’t reading an article about this administration and the bailout.
Coronagold on January 27, 2009 at 3:45 PM
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