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So george W bush is a liberal, right? Just like john mccain, that evil traitor who votes with conservative 80 of the time, and the glass is 80 percent full.
Come on, I want to here more from you about how george w bush is more liberal that barack obama, you real conservative you
It is possible, Entelechy that what gorge w bush knows is much more than what we know. And to believe that george w bush has finally shown his true colors as a rotten liberal, and is doing this to damn america with his socialism is to also beleive the same lies that the left has made about bush for 8 years.
you believe what ever you want about bush. he’s a rotten liberal socialist. fine. whatever
Excuse me, but I didn’t see an argument. Was anything I said inaccurate? Did you not defend liberal actions by a politician claiming to be conservative by calling the critic liberal? I mean…dude. That’s just mind-boggling in terms of being asinine. I’m really seeing that you just invest your heart into some men like Bush and McCain, and when they disappoint you, instead of facing the fact that they are flawed, you turn your disappointment and frustration on those who point out what you don’t want to face, be it posters here or major conservative figures like Michelle Malkin.
Come on, I want to here more from you about how george w bush is more liberal that barack obama, you real conservative you
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:31 PM
You call us liberals for complaining about liberal policies. Explain that with any semblance of logic. Why would liberals be upset about liberal policies?
Quit laughing like a drunk and explain your twisted logic. If we are really liberals, as you say, why would we be upset only about the liberal policies put forward by “conservatives” such as Bush and McCain?
You guys are a bunch of whiny babies. Do you honestly want the Big 3 to fail? Because that’s exactly what’s going to happen unless they get bailed out.
Just like Delta Airlines? Oh, wait…I flew them back from Tokyo last month.
The Big 3 might go into bankruptcy, make some tough choices, reorganize and keep working, but they won’t “fail”.
If it’s so bad that they will disappear unless they get millions of tax dollars, then they are doomed already. If the fuse is already lit, get the hell out of the way. Otherwise you just get burned.
look at that, the energizer bunny troll keeps going, and going, and going …
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Answer the question. It’s a fair, straightforward question. If we are really liberals, as you say, why would we be upset only about the liberal policies put forward by “conservatives” such as Bush and McCain?
They are worse than Obama’s, so far. That’s not to say that the One won’t take it further, having been thrown the ball…by GWB, the conservative ‘capitalist’. Our country is scroomed from the left to the right, that is the only reality.
Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 11:30 PM
History may be repeating itself, first as tragedy with Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin, and now as farce with George W. Bush in the place of Karl Marx and Barack H. Obama potentially in the place of Vladimir Lenin.
Free markets, capitalism, socialism. Michelle knows exactly why she posted that. It takes malkins to do that. She has them.
Look I’ll just drop it. Obviously, not everyone agrees on everything. I’m just stated my opinion. We have speech in this country. Michelle can post whatever she wants on her Web site and I’ll have opinions. No big deal
lying is like breathing to you. I said nothign of the kind. you are pathetic. drop dead, so i can compose a witty gravestone message for you. thats all your good for
Do you honestly want the Big 3 to fail? Because that’s exactly what’s going to happen unless they get bailed out.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:20 PM
It’s not a matter of “want”. They have failed. The question is should we steal Americans’ money to reward failure while preventing three new fresh start American automakers to take their place. If the argument is that something new can’t grow in place of the old and dying, then America and the American Dream is already dead.
What is embarrassing is that a ‘conservative’ president lets the unions skate free, at the hourly rates and retirement money they have, while the rest of us should bail out them, the companies, including their executives, form whom the same Bush admin. slipt in a last line to allow them the excruciating balloon payments when they retire, while a liberal Congress was opposed. Get informed and then come back and whine at us. To be called “unintelligent” by you is a compliment.
it takes no ‘malkins’ to write something on a computer. again, put the money where the mouth is.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:37 PM
She went to Iraq. I don’t think you did, nor should you have to. Since when are we, all of us, not allowed to write anything? You can agree or disagree. Your holiness and unaccountable “love” for GWB is truly unnerving. He did great at keeping us free, and I’ll always give him that. Otherwise, one disappointment after the other. To see that doesn’t make one a lesser person than you are. You also never saw anything wrong with McCain, who turne out to be a post-election disaster, even though I stood with you for him, as the One is an even bigger one.
Yes, because new car companies in America will come in and take over
Who? People keep saying “screw the big 3 because other companies will take over” but no one is saying who these companies are. You can’t just blindly talk nonsense.
question is should we steal Americans’ money to reward failure
Um, it’s not rewarding failure. And btw, our taxpayer money goes to a lot more stupid things than bailing out auto companies that provide hundreds of thousands of jobs and put American cars on the road.
Quit laughing like a drunk and explain your twisted logic. If we are really liberals, as you say, why would we be upset only about the liberal policies put forward by “conservatives” such as Bush and McCain?
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:36 PM
In wise_man’s world everything is nonsense. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is, it isn’t, and what it isn’t, it is. You see?
Who? People keep saying “screw the big 3 because other companies will take over” but no one is saying who these companies are. You can’t just blindly talk nonsense.
Oh wait, I guess you can.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:45 PM
You’re right. If the big three go down, there will be no car companies in America. No one will realize the market share. No one will invest in engineering. No one will look for competitive advantage gained in domestic car manufacturing.
Now let’s talk about blindly talking nonsense. More accurately, let’s talk about American business initiative, and how many industries have died just because the juggernauts fell. Good lord, man.
And if advisers advised him to “go liberal” and he listened, then either (1) he’s not conservative or (2) they are really handlers.
I see. ‘go liberal.’ and yet:
During the 1980 presidential campaign, Ronald Reagan also wavered on the bailout question, first criticizing President Jimmy Carter for his decision to guarantee loans to the ailing Chrysler automobile company before later, during a speech in Detroit, calling the bailout “a proper answer.” Reagan biographer Lou Cannon, writing in the Washington Post, called Reagan’s shift “an effort to reposition [Reagan] as a born-again New Dealer sympathetic to the plight of blue-collar workers pinched by unemployment and inflation.”
and the savings and loan bail out. As well as
In 1986, Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA). The act made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit illegal immigrants, required employers to attest to their employees’ immigration status, and granted amnesty to approximately 3 million illegal immigrants who entered the United States prior to January 1, 1982 and had lived in the country continuously.
So is Ronald Reagan a liberal? I don’t think so.
some times people do things that are necessary. and good men dont need to be called idiotic things by idiotic people.
I have nothing left for Bush but contempt! He aught to pay a ghost-writer to write a book for him and go on a world tour with Jimma Carter. I hear Jimma’s looking for an assistant to carry his bags.
You’re right. If the big three go down, there will be no car companies in America. No one will realize the market share. No one will invest in engineering. No one will look for competitive advantage gained in domestic car manufacturing.
You think that’ll happen immediately? I mean, if you want to wait for all that to happen while our unemployment rate skyrockets and our economy continues to tank, then be my guest. I’d go another route.
You’re a coward, you won’t answer a direct question, and you won’t back up your words. You defend the liberal actions of conservatives because you’re afraid to admit the men you admire are flawed. Your weakness and apathetic attitude has contributed to the current state of the political climate, and the state of the GOP, may it rest in peace.
You think that’ll happen immediately? I mean, if you want to wait for all that to happen while our unemployment rate skyrockets and our economy continues to tank, then be my guest. I’d go another route.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM
If all you’re interested in is immediate results, never EVER start a business, please. You’ll have a heart attack within a month. What you’re suggesting is the continued pouring of money into a floundering business structure which will only forestall inevitable collapse. The question is how big we want the bill for the collapse to be. It will be smaller if we let it go now.
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So george W bush is a liberal, right? Just like john mccain, that evil traitor who votes with conservative 80 of the time, and the glass is 80 percent full.
Come on, I want to here more from you about how george w bush is more liberal that barack obama, you real conservative you
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:31 PM
What are you talking about? More informed about what?
terryannonline on December 16, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Three companies that employ hundreds of thousands of people, btw, and who put cars on the roads.
But I’m delusional. Ok.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM
It is possible, Entelechy that what gorge w bush knows is much more than what we know. And to believe that george w bush has finally shown his true colors as a rotten liberal, and is doing this to damn america with his socialism is to also beleive the same lies that the left has made about bush for 8 years.
you believe what ever you want about bush. he’s a rotten liberal socialist. fine. whatever
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM
If someone is more conservative than Barack Obama we have to fall in lockstep behind them? That’s the toughest standard you can come up with?
joewm315 on December 16, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Yeah, in Japan.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Excuse me, but I didn’t see an argument. Was anything I said inaccurate? Did you not defend liberal actions by a politician claiming to be conservative by calling the critic liberal? I mean…dude. That’s just mind-boggling in terms of being asinine. I’m really seeing that you just invest your heart into some men like Bush and McCain, and when they disappoint you, instead of facing the fact that they are flawed, you turn your disappointment and frustration on those who point out what you don’t want to face, be it posters here or major conservative figures like Michelle Malkin.
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:34 PM
You are having another panic attack. I was afraid you would stop taking your prosac.
Sigmund on December 16, 2008 at 11:34 PM
obviously joewm315 you have no clue what you are talking about.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:35 PM
lol @ the troll again
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:35 PM
You call us liberals for complaining about liberal policies. Explain that with any semblance of logic. Why would liberals be upset about liberal policies?
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Obviously you haven’t finished your two-month long hissy fit, so carry on.
joewm315 on December 16, 2008 at 11:35 PM
What American auto company isn’t it trouble?
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:36 PM
terry, do you think this is…mean-spirited?
Free markets, capitalism, socialism. Michelle knows exactly why she posted that. It takes malkins to do that. She has them.
Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 11:36 PM
LOL @ the fail troll
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Quit laughing like a drunk and explain your twisted logic. If we are really liberals, as you say, why would we be upset only about the liberal policies put forward by “conservatives” such as Bush and McCain?
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:36 PM
it takes no ‘malkins’ to write something on a computer. again, put the money where the mouth is.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:37 PM
look at that, the energizer bunny troll keeps going, and going, and going …
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:38 PM
again with the projection.
WHY EVEN POST??
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Just like Delta Airlines? Oh, wait…I flew them back from Tokyo last month.
The Big 3 might go into bankruptcy, make some tough choices, reorganize and keep working, but they won’t “fail”.
If it’s so bad that they will disappear unless they get millions of tax dollars, then they are doomed already. If the fuse is already lit, get the hell out of the way. Otherwise you just get burned.
Asher on December 16, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Answer the question. It’s a fair, straightforward question. If we are really liberals, as you say, why would we be upset only about the liberal policies put forward by “conservatives” such as Bush and McCain?
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:39 PM
History may be repeating itself, first as tragedy with Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin, and now as farce with George W. Bush in the place of Karl Marx and Barack H. Obama potentially in the place of Vladimir Lenin.
Tav on December 16, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Belief is only when the facts are unknown. I don’t believe W is a liberal – I see it.
And if advisers advised him to “go liberal” and he listened, then either (1) he’s not conservative or (2) they are really handlers.
Either way, he’s run up against a major truth that is on every Hell’s Angel business card:
“When we do right no one remembers. When we do wrong no one forgets.”
platypus on December 16, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Yeah! Screw all of their employees! They deserve to get canned!
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Yes I do.
Look I’ll just drop it. Obviously, not everyone agrees on everything. I’m just stated my opinion. We have speech in this country. Michelle can post whatever she wants on her Web site and I’ll have opinions. No big deal
terryannonline on December 16, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Same to you, jerk.
Yes, because new car companies in America will come in and take over the competitive vacuum, and will probably tell the UAW to go to hell.
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:41 PM
lying is like breathing to you. I said nothign of the kind. you are pathetic. drop dead, so i can compose a witty gravestone message for you. thats all your good for
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:41 PM
It’s not a matter of “want”. They have failed. The question is should we steal Americans’ money to reward failure while preventing three new fresh start American automakers to take their place. If the argument is that something new can’t grow in place of the old and dying, then America and the American Dream is already dead.
Buddahpundit on December 16, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Yes, you did.
Any three year old knows the implication of that statement.
Now answer the question, coward.
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:45 PM
What is embarrassing is that a ‘conservative’ president lets the unions skate free, at the hourly rates and retirement money they have, while the rest of us should bail out them, the companies, including their executives, form whom the same Bush admin. slipt in a last line to allow them the excruciating balloon payments when they retire, while a liberal Congress was opposed. Get informed and then come back and whine at us. To be called “unintelligent” by you is a compliment.
She went to Iraq. I don’t think you did, nor should you have to. Since when are we, all of us, not allowed to write anything? You can agree or disagree. Your holiness and unaccountable “love” for GWB is truly unnerving. He did great at keeping us free, and I’ll always give him that. Otherwise, one disappointment after the other. To see that doesn’t make one a lesser person than you are. You also never saw anything wrong with McCain, who turne out to be a post-election disaster, even though I stood with you for him, as the One is an even bigger one.
Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Who? People keep saying “screw the big 3 because other companies will take over” but no one is saying who these companies are. You can’t just blindly talk nonsense.
Oh wait, I guess you can.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Um, it’s not rewarding failure. And btw, our taxpayer money goes to a lot more stupid things than bailing out auto companies that provide hundreds of thousands of jobs and put American cars on the road.
Just FYI.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Take that, and save yourself some further keystrokes, unless you have fun watching him squirm.
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:47 PM
In wise_man’s world everything is nonsense. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is, it isn’t, and what it isn’t, it is. You see?
Cheshire Cat on December 16, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I can toast to that
Entelechy on December 16, 2008 at 11:48 PM
You’re right. If the big three go down, there will be no car companies in America. No one will realize the market share. No one will invest in engineering. No one will look for competitive advantage gained in domestic car manufacturing.
Now let’s talk about blindly talking nonsense. More accurately, let’s talk about American business initiative, and how many industries have died just because the juggernauts fell. Good lord, man.
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:50 PM
I see. ‘go liberal.’ and yet:
and the savings and loan bail out. As well as
So is Ronald Reagan a liberal? I don’t think so.
some times people do things that are necessary. and good men dont need to be called idiotic things by idiotic people.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:50 PM
screw you, a*hole troll.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Uh, Ford?
Ford doesn’t need a ‘bailout’, what they need are the parts suppliers, and sub contractors to stay in business.
Skandia Recluse on December 16, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Yes she did. ANd this is irrelevant to the talk of hurling a shoe at the president. Maybe she should put her money where her mouth is.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I have nothing left for Bush but contempt! He aught to pay a ghost-writer to write a book for him and go on a world tour with Jimma Carter. I hear Jimma’s looking for an assistant to carry his bags.
FloatingRock on December 16, 2008 at 11:52 PM
F*k you a*hole troll. Seriously, drop dead you f*k.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM
You think that’ll happen immediately? I mean, if you want to wait for all that to happen while our unemployment rate skyrockets and our economy continues to tank, then be my guest. I’d go another route.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM
You’re a coward, you won’t answer a direct question, and you won’t back up your words. You defend the liberal actions of conservatives because you’re afraid to admit the men you admire are flawed. Your weakness and apathetic attitude has contributed to the current state of the political climate, and the state of the GOP, may it rest in peace.
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:54 PM
And things just blew up, ladies and gentlemen.
nickj116 on December 16, 2008 at 11:54 PM
typical. the bile from the trolls has reached critical mass and this page is now a cesspool. buh bye.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:54 PM
you make crap up and lie as easily as you take breath. f*k you and die.
wise_man on December 16, 2008 at 11:55 PM
You’re pathetic, Wise_man.
FloatingRock on December 16, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Good riddance.
FloatingRock on December 16, 2008 at 11:55 PM
If all you’re interested in is immediate results, never EVER start a business, please. You’ll have a heart attack within a month. What you’re suggesting is the continued pouring of money into a floundering business structure which will only forestall inevitable collapse. The question is how big we want the bill for the collapse to be. It will be smaller if we let it go now.
MadisonConservative on December 16, 2008 at 11:56 PM
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