WaPo
About 9 a.m. Thursday, Maj. Nidal M. Hasan walked over to see a neighbor in his aging apartment building here on the edge of downtown. He had come to say goodbye.
The two occasionally would sit together in plastic chairs beneath a wind chime on the landing outside her second-floor apartment, she recalled. She was Christian and he was Muslim, but they shared coffee and talked about God. But this morning, Hasan said that he would be deploying to Afghanistan soon and that he did not want to go. He gave her a copy of the Koran.
“I’m going to do good work for God,” he told her.
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Let’s not jump to any conclusions here. Let me be perfectly clear: SHOUT OUT TO ALLAH!
noblejones on November 8, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Nothing to see here folks. PTSD indeed.
nyx on November 8, 2009 at 11:44 AM
It’s, er, capitalism’s fault, or something
John the Libertarian on November 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM
I don’t see any reason why Hasan cannot be charged with treason.
Connie on November 8, 2009 at 11:45 AM
13 counts of capital murder could also get him the executioner’s needle.
Wethal on November 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM
We have to include the moderates. Look out for the extremist tea baggers though.
the_nile on November 8, 2009 at 11:49 AM
reelijun of peas
blatantblue on November 8, 2009 at 11:50 AM
REALLY wish there wasn’t that part in the Constitution about “Cruel and unusual punishment.”
nickj116 on November 8, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Clearly the caffeine he took in deserves some blame and his western diet. Any news on Seattle “domestic terrorsit” that story has gotten overshadowed? That one was targeteing police, but the motive is not listed in published reports.
koolbrease on November 8, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Pheew! At least he did not hand out . . . BIBLES!!!
honsy on November 8, 2009 at 11:52 AM
If she is a Christian, why didn`t he kill her?
ThePrez on November 8, 2009 at 11:52 AM
The Commander-in-Chief has to sign the death warrant, too. It’ll be after 2012, if ever.
Wethal on November 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM
I almost dread his upcoming trial. It’s going to be a circus of Muslim apologists and pissed Americans.
Mord on November 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM
I blame Bush.
Itchee Dryback on November 8, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Or book deals, liberal “superstar” status and his own prison radio show.
PBoilermaker on November 8, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Why did he have no friends? Because those mean people laughed at him?
Yup, definitely those mean rednecks’ fault. If only they had submitted to Islam, he could have had friends.
trubble on November 8, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Would be quite the quandary for Obama if he had to authorize Hasan’s execution.
“The President has the power to commute a death sentence and no servicemember can be executed unless the President personally confirms the death penalty.”
BardMan on November 8, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Because he had a mission and that might have compromised it.
Sue on November 8, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Linky:
U.S. Military Death Penalty
BardMan on November 8, 2009 at 11:55 AM
BHO: At least, Hasan was not a extremist tea bagger. Let’s not rush to judgement. Inshallah
nyx on November 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM
If only Obama and Obamacare had come sooner, all of this would have been avoided.
s/
BuckeyeSam on November 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM
That would have tipped his hand.
1/2 /s
Itchee Dryback on November 8, 2009 at 11:56 AM
If Hasan recovers, isn’t it almost certain that he will be tried in a military court? I think that will keep the absurd OJ-trial type circus at bay.
Has anyone asked the President whether he would sign a death penalty conviction under UCMJ if Hasan were to receive that sentence? It would be interesting to hear how he dodges that question.
BruinEric on November 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM
FDR introduced internment camps.
What say the trolls?
BuckeyeSam on November 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM
PTSD.
vcferlita on November 8, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Being a Muslim in the military fighting Muslims and living in a pro-military town amidst patriotic Americans seems like a really bad career choice but it was his choice.
If she had been at the base when he went Jihadi, he would have killed her and he would have done it while shouting “Allah Akbar!”.
Guardian on November 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM
We may never know what his motivation was. WE MAY NEVER KNOW WHAT HIS MOTIVATION WAS! WE MAY NEVER KNOW WHAT HIS MOTIVATION WAS!!
nya, nya, nya, nya… I can’t hear you, I can’t hear you! nyaaaa, nyaaaa, nyaaa
29Victor on November 8, 2009 at 12:00 PM
She wasn’t about to ship out to a muslim land to kill fellow muslims?
bridgetown on November 8, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Clearly it’s PTSD. Why do all you extremist teabags hate Muslims and Islam?
Enoxo on November 8, 2009 at 12:03 PM
God will have the final say in all of this. I’m glad that I am not a muslim.
VegasRick on November 8, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Palestinian Terrorist Sunni Devotee?
29Victor on November 8, 2009 at 12:03 PM
I resent the press totally discounting this man’s faith and his use of it to justify the attack but it is clear that he was a sad sad man.
Cindy Munford on November 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM
BruinEric on November 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I am pretty sure the UCMJ has authority over military members that supercedes civilian court especially because this happened on a military base. If he had gone all Jihadi at his partment building I think he would face civilian courts first and a court martial after. I could be wrong but thats how I remember it.
Mord on November 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Imagine if Sarah Palin had said this.
SouthernGent on November 8, 2009 at 12:06 PM
I did 24 years in the Navy and got involved in quite a few legal cases – mostly drug discharges (or attempts at discharge). Been involved with Courts Martials – but I’m no lawyer.
But in my opinion – the military courts are just as infected with “OJ-itis” as the civilian courts. Hassan may even choose a civilian lawyer to defend him – normally that would be someone who has experience with working in military courts and a detailed knowledge of the UCMJ.
You can expect that his civilian lawyer will “leak” what he wants “leaked” to the press – while the government prosecution will be gagged hard – because – the prosecution will be uniformed military and therefore bound by the UCMJ themselves.
The only way Hassan gets off on this is to plead some kind of PTSD. If admits to being a terrorist – he’s sunk. So get ready for lots of sad-sack stories from his lawyer about PTSD and about being “abused” and discriminated against for his Muslim heritage.
Additionally – the Army doesn’t want this guy to turn out to be a terrorist either – because if it’s true – then they missed the warning signs that were there.
The Army wants this to be a case of a guy going off the deep end – and since that is EXACTLY what the defense will be asking for – that is how this is going to turn out.
Hassan will not be executed. Obama would have to sign the death warrant – it won’t happen. In fact – the Army will shield Obama from even having to face that predicament by turning this into a simple case of PTSD.
And the band played on …
HondaV65 on November 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM
The lonely life of “Number Nine”. Awww..the left wing media trying to get sympathy for a mass murderer.
vcferlita on November 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Are you joking?
VegasRick on November 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Yes, it was sarcasm.
Enoxo on November 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM
There was a report yesterday that this guy attended the same extremist Virginia mosque that two of the 9-11 hijackers attended.
Just coincidence?
His complaints against the Iraq and Afghan wars …
Just coincidence?
His shouting “God is Great” in Arabic as he gunned down soldiers …
Just coincidence?
My God man – how many dots have to line up for you?
HondaV65 on November 8, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Buy “gods” work he meant he was suffering from PTSD…
Caper29 on November 8, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I thought so but wanted to make sure.
VegasRick on November 8, 2009 at 12:14 PM
And then just continued to peacefully hand out bibles, and never shot anybody or even yelled at anybody. Well, she might have been heard to whisper “Praise God,” when someone thanked her for the bible.
She’d be labeled a crazed fundamentalist Christianist who must be stopped at all costs, and guaranteed to be Olbermann’s “Worst Person In The World.”
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Poor Hasan didn’t want to deploy, so he shot the hell out some people.
Probably get a medal instead of what he deserves, after they work hard to come up with the alternate acceptable motivation contrary to the obvious extremist ideological motivation.
Not his fault, poor Hasan.
Otis B on November 8, 2009 at 12:18 PM
My apologies – didn’t realize you were being sarcastic … my bad!
HondaV65 on November 8, 2009 at 12:18 PM
You killed his soul America, what could you expect him to do but lash out at the enemies of Islam!!!11!!
I smell the toast and it is us.
BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Heh heh! The mojo is already working! Maybe they can go with the memory hole they have.
BL@KBIRD on November 8, 2009 at 12:26 PM
“Cruel and Unusual” has absolutely no meaning.
Does it have to be both? Something can be cruel without being unusual. Something can be unusual without being cruel.
I’m of the opinion that the guillotine, firing squad, and various other execution methods are not cruel and are only unusual now because we stopped using them. If we sharpened up Mademoiselle Guillotine and used it a few times, then it wouldn’t be unusual anymore.
Lehosh on November 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM
So every evening this guy would traipse by a bunch of off-duty soldiers, who were always sitting in the same place sharing beers, wearing his Muslim clothes, and march off, frowning, to his lonely room.
Sounds like he was really trying to make friends, doesn’t it?
Me and my drinking buddies have a lot of friends who don’t drink — even a few muslims. They’re free to hang out, shoot the bull, and they do, with not even a funny look from us boozers. But, I guess if they showed up wearing their clown suit every day, frowned at us, and stalked off to sit alone in their apartment, they might get some ribbing.
But no more. I don’t want to get shot.
And the only guy who actually got drunk and picked on him, got evicted.
This poor, poor, lonely, self-made-foreigner soul, surrounded by hate-filled American infidel soldiers, who seemed to have forgotten all of their diversity training….
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Where’s the execution going to be? I’d like to watch.
WisCon on November 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM
The fact is – the military is pretty close knit – if you’re an anti-social, or you appear to be “stuck-up” on your socio-economic class, or your religion – you’ll be made fun of.
I love Jews and have defended them many times on this board. But I do remember a guy on my first submarine who was the only Jew on the boat. He held himself above everyone else and sought to remind us at every turn that he was different from us – that he was Jewish. I remember him bitching about bacon bits on the salad bar and how they offended his Jewish belief. Problem was – they were 100 percent artificial with not a scrap of pork in ‘em. That didn’t matter to him.
In the military – your fellow servicemembers expect you to drop all the “specialness” of your status and leave that stuff for off duty. Military members like those who “assimilate” and will chide and make fun of those who refuse to assimilate.
Is that wrong? Not in my opinion. In the Navy we had a saying … no one’s black or white here – we’re all Navy Blue.
It doesn’t appear that Hassan embraced this concept.
HondaV65 on November 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM
No waaaaay! If you join the Army they might send you to a war zone? They don’t just hand out free medical educations? What a rip off!
RadClown on November 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Oh, and the keying and bumper-sticker defacement?
Try parking your car with a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker, or a Palin 2012 bumper sticker within six blocks of any college or university campus….
Why, if this happens just one more time, I’m gonna……
Retouch it, put a new sticker on, and stick it right in their faces again …. and wonder why nobody likes me.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I love all of the emphasis on the poverty surrounding Hasan. The man was at that apartment by choice. As a Major with his time in service he was making well over $70,000.00 a year. I wonder where the rest of his income was going? That might be a story.
Cody Baker on November 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM
WisCon on November 8, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Unfortunatly this guy won’t ever be excecuted. The US military hasn’t excecuted one of their own since 1960 or so.
We have guys who have been sitting on death row since 1980. He will probably die in prison of old age.
Mord on November 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM
We may never know if religion played a role in this.
+100
NoLeftTurn on November 8, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Hey WAPO bastards, Hasan is not the victim here!!!!!!!
david kumbera on November 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM
No, they can execute him 45 times as far as I am concerned. Plenty of sad people in the world who never hurt a soul. The media doesn’t glorify the Columbine killers.
Cindy Munford on November 8, 2009 at 12:48 PM
+100
aikidoka on November 8, 2009 at 12:51 PM
This thread needs hicsuget NOW. I need to read how militant islam(not capitalizing a satanic death cult) is the same thing as Christianity. You are letting me down enlightened one!
daesleeper on November 8, 2009 at 12:55 PM
But no more. I don’t want to get shot.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Because, Allah knows, you would deserve it.
/s
Otis B on November 8, 2009 at 12:58 PM
You have to admit the press coverage is different.
Cindy Munford on November 8, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Kinda long, sorry, but I had a vision inspired by SouthernGent’s comment:
Imagine if Sarah Palin had said this
One fine Autumn morning, Sarah Palin shows up at a street corner, with a box of those little green pocket bibles the old guys in suits are always handing out on college campuses.
She starts cheerfully passing them out, explaining “I’m going to do good work for God.”
She is heard to say “Praise God,” when a fellow Christian happens by and shares a heartwarming anecdote.
An adept investigative journalist, who has been on Ms. Palin’s trail all the way from Wasilla, catches the whole thing on hidden camera.
Sarah then proceeds to her office, where she gets on Facebook, and excoriates Obama’s latest proposal — this one happens to be on HealthCare.
Think there’d be people “connecting the dots?”
How dare this Christianist opine on public policy!
There would be a ten minute tirade from Keith Olbermann as he storms on with a “How dare you, ma’am? Have you no decency? Have you no respect for the First Amendment?” She would be guaranteed to be his “Worst Person In The World!”
Letterman would have a field day. At least a half-dozen Top Tens, all with variants of “she’s too stupid to read,” “she called them birth-control,” “her daughter’s a slut….”
Tina Fey would be back on SNL, hawking bibles.
The MSM would go wild. Conventional wisdom would be that not only had Sarah ruined any chances in 2012, she had also destroyed the Republican Party in the process, ruining the chances for even good moderate Republicans.
Lefty blogs? Trolls? They’d have their metaphorical ammo from now until 20 years after Sarah Palin’s death….
AllahPundit would have weeks and weeks of anti-Palin editorials to choose from, everyone from Charles Blow to Peggy Noonan to Chris Buckley to Megan Mac….
(Perhaps if Sarah explained that someone in the courtyard had been picking on her, we could understand, but never forgive.)
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM
What would happen to Adam Gadahn if he were found and brought back to stand trial?
Connie on November 8, 2009 at 1:29 PM
The most disturbing issue, legally speaking, ignoring the repeated mass murders and mass maiming by Muslims, is that a psychiatrist will in all probability claim criminal insanity. And rather than face the reality of what “Allah’s Cause” means — anyone can consult the USC Center for ‘Muslim-Jewish Engagement’ (interesting choice of the verb “engage,” double entendre with military engagement) — all our experts and politicians, other than a tiny group of legislators, would rather pretend Islam isn’t going through a radical transformation back to the religious-political-military philosophy it was back in the Seventh Century. Then it conquered half the known world, and erased countless towns from the old Roman maps. So there’s a great chance the mental health experts involved with Hasan will ignore Islam completely, knowing it’s the most relevant factor, and cave to political pressure. Which is to say they will conclude he’s mentally unbalanced and may even say he’s not fit to stand trial. Never mind the Quran is the reoccurring factor mentioned by Hasan and witnesses which caused his sudden ‘insanity.’
Hasan even tried da’wa with everyone the day before he went jihad, following a compressed example of Muhammad’s life as Muhammed is the perfect example of conduct for all devout Muslims.
33.21
But rather than face a medieval philosophy making a comeback after the ridiculous “End of History” modern people become willfully blind and suicidal to the actual Clash of Civilizations predicted by Samual Huntington. Huntington is so correct Muslims in Europe use his thesis as a badge of so-called Islamophobia. Google “Islamophobia Runnymede Trust” to see what I’m talking about.
If I post any more links this post will get bagged by the filter.
Beagle on November 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM
The Clash of Civilizations?
by Samuel P. Huntington
Foreign Affairs Summer 1993
Badge of Islamophobia (1997)
History not only did not “end” but it’s back, armed to the teeth, highly motivated, and angry.
Beagle on November 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Do you refer to your Muslim friends’ as disrespectfully as you have here? You refer to his clothes as a “clown suit?”
Your BS is so backed up that you’re septic. Also, I believe you are a liar. You do have drinking buddies, but none of you have any Muslim friends. You don’t lie very well.
If these people were your friends you would not be able to make this statement. “But no more. I don’t want to get shot.” You either trust them or you don’t. They are your friends or not.
I’ve seen this happen before, where someone seemingly turns racist. It’s as if you’ve been waiting for your excuse all along and this incident has freed you to embrace that inner bigot. Your prior tolerance was simply a matter of convenience. Now your rage has replaced that convenience with cathartic retribution. Anger, yummy.
Substitute “Muslim” for “Black” and you’re wearing the same BS veil that American bigots have worn for the past 50 years.
Indians, Blacks, Chinese, Irish were all failed by immoral and cowardly white Americans at some point. If those groups had collectively given up on Whites, on America, where would we be? Your position is one of moral wussitude. To castigate all Muslims as fearsome is lazy and innaccurate. Did I mention it’s also bigoted?
You’re gonna run around afraid of all Muslims now? No let me guess. You’re going to stand vigilant, ready-to-rock at all times against the Muslim invaders, right?
The AmRen village is missing an idiot.
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Wow! You’re like a caricature of everything stupid. Are you being serious? How many other mass murderers do you think are purely reactive victims? Ted Bundy a pet cause of yours as well?
Beagle on November 8, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Beagle on November 8, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Come now, you should know that diversity trumps justice.
And they wonder why the Army “missed it” with this guy.
Otis B on November 8, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Dude, that’s what it means to be friends. You can joke. They won’t take it wrong. They dish it out just as good as they get it.
But since they’ve never decided to dress up in their religious garb and plop themselves down in front of me, just to let me know that I’m not as holy as they are, the situation’s never come up. Usually if they’re dressed like that, they’re on their way to the mosque or some such, which makes it pretty much equivalent to the clown suit I wear (black coat, tie, dress shoes) when I go to church.
I really don’t care what you believe about me or my friends. But, no, it’s not that I don’t lie well, it’s that you don’t reason (or read) very well.
Dude, that was a joke. I was riffing on the stupid idea that making jokes about someone would cause them to go ballistic and shoot up people. What this insane person did was no one’s fault but his own. Get it?
My beef is not with Muslims. It’s with this idiotic attempt to portray this poor guy as some sort of a victim.
My point is (clearly) that he didn’t want any friends, that he encouraged abuse for the sake of his martyr complex. Normal people, Muslim or not, don’t do that.
Don’t know what the heck AmRen is, but if it’s idiot is missing, it’s because you’ve left.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 2:38 PM
This is garbled – what are you trying to say? Without the Chinese and Irish, we would have no what, railroads?
Assuming you are not a caricature, I’m actually genuinely interested in some amplification here.
Otis B on November 8, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I wonder why he did not choose to live in a more suitable apartment. He was paid enough to live among peers instead a seedy dive populated with vandals, etc.
SarahW on November 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM
Hey Race Card, got any comment on this?
Give Islam credit for being consistent through the ages. Even the Founders realized not every philosophy is amenable to a constitutional republic, especially the ones which want to destroy that form of government.
That’s the same Muslim Brotherhood Obama insisted be brought in to hear him in Egypt, and the one his special adviser on Islam supports.
I guess the ‘bright side’ is that the schadenfreude is awesome when progressive leftists meet traditional Islam. If the Right is so much like the Taliban, why does Obama want to put the Taliban in charge of big chunks of Afghanistan when Republicans don’t? And what about the freedom NOT to wear the hijab?
Beagle on November 8, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Now that I think about it, good thing I didn’t call it a “monkey suit,” which is slang (at least here in the midwest) for any sort of formal get-up that takes you out of jeans and a t-shirt.
example:
“Dude, what you doing in that monkey suit?”
“I got a job interview.”
“Good luck.”
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 3:10 PM
I think it’s part and parcel of his martyr complex. He was looking for people he thought were most likely to abuse him, which he could blame on hatred for his religion, rather than that he was a misanthropic monomaniacal religious jerk. He needed some justification for what he had already decided that he had to do.
I keep coming back to: what is wrong with our screening processes that all of these red flags were ignored?
It might be simplest to put it down to political correctness gone awry, and a desire to “accommodate Muslims,” but I think that would miss the very real possibility that there may be a bunch of non-Muslim whack jobs in our military’s psychological and counseling services as well, who may not snap and shoot people, but whose anti-American or anti-military beliefs are screwing up more soldiers and veterans than they are fixing.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 3:21 PM
I’m a caricature of everything stupid, great. That did not prevent you twisting my words to meet your needs.
I never excused Hasan. In fact, I make no link between his actions and the bigotry being promoted by notropis. I think Hasan is a murder, as I stated before.
If you care to be taken seriously, then seriously consider then reply my words. If you want to have a p*ssing match find someone else.
Follow the bouncing ball please. notropis was using this incident as justification for his burgeoning prejudice against Muslims. My point was simply to remind him that such sweeping responses to offensive individuals is faulty. And had any ethnic group in America which had been previously abused at-large by Americans chose to do so, our country would not be the great country it is.
That statement is almost believable. Then I read this:
Pathetic retractions like this are the toxic-runoff of bigoted remarks. Your words here are so weak that I feel shame for you as a man.
You can’t even own your own feelings. You clearly meant “clown suit” pejoratively. Why lie now? Really, go through your first statement, then your second. In the second, you actually try to soften the impact of your harsh words by equating a Muslim on his way to mosque with you on your way to church. WHAT UTTER CRAP!
Your entire statement refutes this one point. You have NO respect for a Muslim on his way to mosque. “But no more.” Those words tell it all.
I would respect you more if you could stand up like a man, own your words and mean what you say.
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Very astute comment. This tracks the notion Muslims must follow the example of Muhammad’s life. Muhammad started out preaching unsuccessfully (often to Jews who ridiculed his teachings), moved on to caravan raiding, enslaving people, killing critics (like poets), getting more powerful, and finally becoming a warlord and the leader of most of the Arabian Peninsula having slaughtered and enslaved all the Jewish tribes in Arabia. Until people understand the importance of Muhammad’s bizarre example, and read the core Islamic texts, the way Muslims behave is completely mystifying. It was for me, and it took a few years from 2000-3 to figure most of it out.
Muslims first view themselves as victims for the infidel not receiving their da’wa (Islam is the One True Faith). Then they escalate in violent behavior, just like Muhammad. Of course this only applies to devout and observant Muslims who follow the Quran and Sunnah (Prophet’s Traditions).
Now someone will say I’m saying what Osama Bin Laden thinks so I support terrorists. But I don’t follow organized religion, so that’s a load of crap. I believe in free thought, freedom of religion, and a constitutional republic. I oppose all theocracy. But theocracy is not when a Christian brings his beliefs into politics. Theocracy is when a religious person claims his holy book is a legal treatise. And that’s exactly what Islam is doing these days.
See, The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam (1990)
Beagle on November 8, 2009 at 3:40 PM
“Monkey suit” would have been better. It would have made more sense per your explanation. It would fit with the BS attempt to try and draw parity between you and Muslims…as if you feel any.
You’ve already backed down when faced with your own words once. You’re like the road-rager who curses and fumes violently at the next car…until he sees a black or brown face behind the wheel.
You’re a jellyfish.
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Ah yes, the giant BUT.
“I think Hasan is a murderer…” (not in your actual post I was discussing of course) …BUT, with that perfunctory formality out of the way, now I can go on justifying and explaining away his actions.
Beagle on November 8, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I would respect you more if you displayed the slightest glimmer of reading comprehension; and if you didn’t bring your own racial baggage into your reading of everyone else’s posts.
Your reasoning is so flawed that I feel shame for you as a human.
Soften? No. Explain to someone suffering from severe reading comprehension issues.
You want to know what “utter crap” is? It is you claiming that you can somehow divine my inner hidden racism. Sort of like Maureen Dowd hearing “Boy” when Joe Wilson said “You lie.”
The racism you see in my post is precisely and only the racial attitudes you harbor in your own brain.
Dude, as I said, I was riffing on the idea that simply making snide comments about some misanthropic neighbor might be justification for him to go on a shooting rampage.
Oh well.
Clear your brain of your own preconceptions, learn to read objectively, and maybe you’ll understand what you’re reading.
Or maybe not.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 3:50 PM
And you’re an idiot.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 3:51 PM
The votes have been tabulated –
And it’s notropis by a knockout blow over The Race Turd!
honsy on November 8, 2009 at 3:59 PM
We’re only great because ethnic groups who had been previously abused chose to stick around and not sweepingly accuse America of having an evil ideology as they departed?
A bit of a stretch, perhaps, but you could probably more simply, and with less absurd speculation, state the platitude as “Diversity is Strength” or something.
Otis B on November 8, 2009 at 4:00 PM
And had any ethnic group in America which had been previously abused at-large by Americans chose to do so, our country would not be the great country it is.
Right! Like: No Irish need apply. No dogs or Jews in the park, etc.
honsy on November 8, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Oh, and:
Duh. Whether it’s referring to Muslim garb, or my church clothes (which, again, I probably would have called something equally pejorative but more accurately described — like a “monkey suit” or “undertaker’s clothes” or whatever.) Point being that, yeah, people tend to make fun of people who are dressed different. And people who are going to worship often dress goofy. Big deal. We all do it.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 4:04 PM
And people who are going to worship often dress goofy. Big deal. We all do it.
And Hassidic Jews in their 17th century black-and-white garb with their side curls have never been ridiculed, either. Especially on Saturday Night Live or the Comedy Channel.
(For Sekhmet: That was sarcasm!)
honsy on November 8, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Speaking of that:
A Hassidic Jew walked into a bar in Nashville, Tennessee with a parrot on his shoulder and was about to order a drink when the parrot squawked:
“Polly wants a gin and tonic.”
The bartender stared in disbelief and said:
“Where the hell did you find one of those?”
“Heck!”, said the parrot. “There are thousands of them all over Brooklyn!”
honsy on November 8, 2009 at 4:12 PM
And just to finish my point:
Here’s a picture of my wedding (I blurred out the recognizable faces.) I’d call what I was wearing a “clown suit.”
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Guess the “Race Card” shuffled him/herself back into the deck….
Shame, because he/she often adds some good insights — but just as often runs off at the keyboard based on what he/she thinks is being said, rather than what’s being said….
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Naw, I’m here. Football, work out and a kids bday all goin on. Sue me.
We’re only great because ethnic groups who had been previously abused chose to stick around and not sweepingly accuse America of having an evil ideology as they departed?
Liar. I did not ascribe our greatness to one factor.
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM
The last thing you have to worry about is me running from my words. If I’m wrong, I’ll own em…eat em. I have no ego-attachment to the truth as I perceive it. If you can refute me successfully, then you have just taught me something.
I’ll be back for ya soon.
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Turn off the computer and do the b’day. It’s way more important.
Well, I’ll agree that it’s a necessary condition, but there are several others, as well. And it’d be nice if people on all sides (including the ethnic groups) would cut down on the “sweepingly accuse America of having an evil ideology.” Because you can sure as heck find that accusation from people as diverse as Jeremiah Wright and Fred Phelps.
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 4:36 PM
By default, the groom is wearing a clown suit.
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 4:40 PM
David Koresh was at your wedding?
The Race Card on November 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Well said. LOL
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Which one, the tall, geeky one in the background?
It was the ’80s. Everyone had that hairstyle.
But then again, I don’t know what he did with himself in the 90s….
notropis on November 8, 2009 at 4:47 PM
The spin on mass murderer Hasan is in full force. Articles examining his good side are multiplying, like the info from the weepy neighbor.
Meanwhile, a huge amount of pertinent information is missing from the reporting
For instance, how was Hasan dressed when he entered the building to commit murder. Was he in uniform, of in the ‘native’ dress shown in the 7-11 security video.
So many witnesses, so little data
Jihadists like the 9-11 group go through various rituals before attacking, like bathing, shaving body hair, and possibly putting on certain clothing items underneath the street clothing
Where are the witnesses who heard him yell alla wu akhbar? That should have been most of the survivors.
Meanwhile, Obama plays the episode down, except for sending out his PC brigade to stop any examination of the muslim angle. That is how Hasan got as far as he did, and that is how Hasan got to keep his commission in the firt place.
Not examinging the details is how we got a President who is more muslim than Christian, and a President who said he converted to Christianity without explaining if he ever renounced islam to convert.
Whenever the examination gets too close to reality, the MSM moves in with touchy feelies to change the conversation and turn the attack onto those who approach forbidden subjects
entagor on November 8, 2009 at 5:01 PM
The only thing missing from the WaPo story was Poor, poor, pitiful me playing in the background.
Buy Danish on November 8, 2009 at 5:38 PM