Honolulu Advertiser
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”
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Show us what YOU have ’seen’ then.
If not, why not?
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:17 AM
So the next step is to claim we get to see what the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health sees.
Oops. Too late.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Thanks, pal… we can do the math.
mankai on July 28, 2009 at 9:19 AM
And we can’t see it because…
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 9:19 AM
OK, great! Let’s see it.
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 9:21 AM
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman… Miss Lewinski.”
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM
The Bush administration never went out of there way to fight 9-11 truthers … but Obama and Congress are bending over backwards to squash this?
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Let’s also see payments made to Dr. Fukino by..hmm…G. Soros? King of Saudi Arabia? lol
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM
I think it all depends on what the meaning of “seen” is.
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM
He is part of the conspiracy too, along with his suprisingly clairvoyant mother and maternal grandparents, the DMV worker who gave him his license, the Bar Examiners, the Gov of Hawaii, the person who issued his marriage license, etc.
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 9:23 AM
That’s fine. let’s see the original BC and put the matter to rest.
Just because some really has a birth certificate, ya still have to show it.
TheSitRep on July 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM
No, Obama threatened to expose his collection of young sheep porn.
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 9:24 AM
I’m just sayin’…
mankai on July 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Why would someone hide their original vital records?
Plain and simple.
I’m quite proud of my original vital records and would never think to HIDE them.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm and John McCain must agree, since he had to show congress the actual concrete proof of his origins.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM
Man, these morons have just made things worse. Now they have no reason not to show it.
Things will now ramp up.
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM
Crap.
format e:
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM
Oh, right, like I believe him. He wasn’t even there! Fire can’t melt steel!!1!11!
Knock it off. This. Isn’t. Helping. It is almost like the people pushing this are Lefties trying to make the right look insane.
Jeff M (Formerly Jeff_McAwesome) on July 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM
So, assuming he was: 1. why not show the BC, and 2. Let’s see his college transcripts and loan/grant documentation to ensure that he was not getting grants for foreign students. I am starting to think it is not a citizenship issue as much as a fraud issue.
Vashta.Nerada on July 28, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Jeff M (Formerly Jeff_McAwesome) on July 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM
Only person that looks insane to me is the President of this country keeping things so tightly sealed.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Native born or natural born? What was the law at that time?
PrincipledPilgrim on July 28, 2009 at 9:27 AM
No amount of evidence will ever be enough…just as with Troofers. If they do finally cave and show the long form, Birthers will find a reason to continue with this crap. Hey, let’s just ignore all the real problems this country is facing…
JimRich on July 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Dr. Chiyome Fukino is a Democrat.
I’m just sayin’…
mankai on July 28, 2009 at 9:29 AM
JimRich on July 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM
That’s BS. Show me what this fine Dr. in Hawaii has seen.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Definition of Natural Born Citizen
Ok guys, I want a clean fight, no hitting below the belt and no hitting after the bell rings! Now get in there and FIGHT!
javamartini on July 28, 2009 at 9:29 AM
If that’s their strategy it’s a bad one. They’ve just passed a resolution, this guy says it’s there and he’s seen it … so what reason can he possibly have for not showing it?
The best strategy would have been to just ignore the whole thing.
darwin on July 28, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Obama was born in Hawaii huh….
Kinda like…. “I don’t want to run the car companies” or ” I will not tax any American making under 250,000 a year” or “If you like your current health care, under my plan, you can keep it”….
Kinda like that?
katy on July 28, 2009 at 9:30 AM
Because WE don’t have a “tangible interest” in seeing it.
Key West Reader on July 28, 2009 at 9:31 AM
It’s really stupid that they won’t release a copy, but it should be much more difficult for birthers to get any traction now.
Daggett on July 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM
God… this ridiculous birth certificate thing is making conservatives look silly. Instead of focusing on it, perhaps we should devote all our energies to defeating single payer healthcare?
Illinidiva on July 28, 2009 at 9:33 AM
“The billing records just showed up in the map room? Huh.”
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Birfers…Of all the things to criticize The One over, some hang on to one of the nuttiest conspiracy theories of our time: Obama’s birth certificate. You guys are right up there with the 911 troofers.
Really doing a great job of image enhancement for the GOP.
JetBoy on July 28, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Hmmm… high troll traffic this morning.
Key West Reader on July 28, 2009 at 9:34 AM
As I understand it, Sen McCain did not have to show congress his BC, everyone knew where he was born, it was just a question as to whether or not it counted.
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Why don’t you find a nice girl and settle down?
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 9:35 AM
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago….”
WHY CAN;T WE GET TO SEE THEM?
THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING – WHAT, I DUNNO, BUT IT’S VERY EMBARRASSING AND IT PROBABLY OPENS A CAN OF WORMS.
PROBABLY THAT FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS IS OBAMA’S BIOLOGICAL FATHER.
reliapundit on July 28, 2009 at 9:35 AM
And Gov Lingle is a Republican.
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Well played.
Abby Adams on July 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM
I have no idea why people keep making the claim and comparison. Reps have stood firm on defeating Obamacare, so firm – it’s the Dems who don’t have the votes. Regardless of Pelosi’s posturing and Prime Time stink fest from Bambi – fiscally conservative, Blue Dog, moderate Dems within the House and Senate are against this bill as it is – hence no vote before the recess.
Do you really think Dems and or the American people are going to switch gears and support Obamacare, just because “birthers” are bringing the issue up?
Odie1941 on July 28, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Well not only can I multitask but I try not to get tunnel vision to the extent of shutting out all other things but I guess I’m one of the few with that ability based on the number of people here that are so adamant on giving it up so they can concentrate on X.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM
This does not tell us anything that we did not already know. We already knew Hawaii had his BC in its vault and that it says he was born in Hawaii. The assertion that that makes him natural born is just a legal conclusion. That determination is for the judiciary to make in interpreting the Constitution. BTW let’s see the vault copy and see if the original was a late BC awarded by affidavit.
I tell you the presumption of these government officials that they can just give us information like this on a “need to know” basis and we just need to trust them. It is astounding arrogance of the political class.
tommylotto on July 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Oy you could find a nice boy, that would be about as appealing.
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Why can’t you type like a normal person instead of an obnoxious shouting buffoon?
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM
So why can’t he just show it to everyone? What’s the big deal? It’s very fishy.
golfballs03 on July 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM
I don’t think him being born there is the legal question. Isn’t one of the main points of the birthers whether or not he was a dual citizen and later renounced or something to that affect?
Youngs98 on July 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Why is now a news story? Because it’s being painted as “The GOP is a bunch of conspiracy loonies!”
In the meantime, we’ve got the CBO battling the WHBO over deficits, Biden the “Foreign Policy Expert” is insulting Russia (along with the POTUS), Hillary seems to think wishing really hard will stop Iran’s nukes, and the Congress isn’t even read the tripe they want to pass into law.
But this story is dominating the news cycle. Distractions, folks!
Nethicus on July 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Bummer.
Firebird on July 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
This is pure stupidity. The more they drag this out, the more it looks like the nutters are right.
Iblis on July 28, 2009 at 9:43 AM
What evidence?
A politician says he has seen the BC and it is real.
Stop the presses! The matter is closed because a politician has seen the BC so it is without doubt real.
Jimmy Carter noted politician has seen UFOs. Stop the presses! The matter is closed because a politician has seen the UFOs so they are without doubt real.
How about these politicians back their claims up with some hard evidence.
Nope can’t do that so all we get are eyewitness accounts and blurry photos.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM
A nice what, now?
Anyway, what exactly are you birfers trying to prove, and what’s your motive? Are you really simply defending the constitutional requirements of the POTUS, or are you just trying to “stick it” to Obama in any way you can? Because “President Biden” is so appealing?
This whole birth certificate crud is a waste of time. Not only that, it really makes Republicans look like nut cases. Your doing no one any favors.
But alas…put that tinfoil hat on and go for it.
JetBoy on July 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Youngs98 on July 28, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Well, I don’t know if I’m a ‘birther’
But, at this point, I don’t give a flip where the man was born. I just want to know why he is hiding everything about his past. It’s just a curiosity of mine.
I’ve never been able to figure this man out because our media sucks. I’m figuring it out by his actions….but, it’d be nice to see some documentation of his past (birth, college, professional life)
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM
This is why birthers are laughed at…so now Dr. Fukino won’t show the money he received from all these nefarious people.
Proof, I am telling you, proof that this whole thing is “cooked up”.
I won’t believe it until Dr. Fukino admits to and actually showing us the payments for Soros.
This respected man once again stated the obvious….Obama was born in Hawaii.
Many of the birthers were yelling “no official has seen, or no official has claimed”.
Well now you have the ultimate official, the man at the top of the command for Health Services.
And no, he is not going to “pass around” the country, put on tour a birth certificate, he just made it official.
Obama was born in Hawaii.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM
JetBoy…
Why do I look like a nutcase and Obama looks sane for hiding information?
Besides, I’m not a republican. I’m an independent, so if you “GOP’ers” are upset, so be it. I could care less.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM
I was kidding. Don’t be a jackass.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM
I’m also looking forward to learning more of him through reading Michelle Malkin’s new book. Can’t wait.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM
MM shares JetBoy’s attitude about the birther thing, you know.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM
A copy is on the internet, this is the second time it has been acknowledged, by two different Health Services dept. heads.
What do you want, his birth certificate put on a tour bus and driven from town to town, and you can all pick it up and analyze it?
The two heads of the Heath Services Dept. has stated, Obama was born in Hawaii.
Nobody has proof of anything else, and they (Fukino, Okubo) saw the archived original.
There is nothing else, there is no “long form” or “short form”.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM
In on it! They’ve gotten to him!
Dash on July 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Word.
Just like those liars Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins.
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM
I am starting to think it is not a citizenship issue as much as a fraud issue.
Vashta.Nerada on July 28, 2009 at 9:27 AM
Hmmmm. This may not be the popular thing to say here, but in a way I’ve always been more troubled by BO’s not releasing his college transcripts and documents from his time in the Illinois state senate. What is the point of that?
NebCon on July 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM
That’s how I feel and yet I’ve been labeled a birther…on par with 9/11 truthers and flat earthers.
It’s kind of tiring tbh. There are legitimate questions about his documentation or lack thereof but anytime we ask a question, we’re harrassed as a nutter.
powerpro on July 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM
It’s amazing. The crux of this argument is whether or not Obama is a Natural Born Citizen. Everything else, the Birth Certificate, “he was born in Kenya”, etc., are just red herrings. By successfully framing the debate over where he was born and ridiculing those who want him to produce the birth certificate, they hope to put this issue to bed by simply revealing that, VOILA!, he really was born in Hawaii. And chances are they will.
However, SCOTUS still hasn’t definitively ruled on the meaning of Natural Born Citizen as it pertains to the qualifications to be president in Article II, Section 2, Clause 5 of the Constitution. As it stands now, the SCOTUS doesn’t know, the American people don’t know, I don’t know but Dr. Fukino’s.
singer on July 28, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Boy, I never get tired of hearing this argument.
Damn, GOP – why can’t you all just goose-step like the Dems? Don’t you know image is so important. I guess you can only be diverse when it comes to race and sexual preference, but everyone must think the same!
Every tiny minority MUST obviously represent the ENTIRE party as a whole, no free-thinking allowed! Baaaaaaaa.
So, what is really going on here?
Obama is an arrogant POS who refuses to answer to the peasants? He evens spends money and goes out of his way to give the peons the finger?
or, he’s hiding… something (doesn’t have to be country of birth, but something else, perhaps).
reaganaut on July 28, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Without BHO’s consent, I would think that this would be illegal.
I repeat: it’s not the birthplace that he’s hiding.
baldilocks on July 28, 2009 at 9:52 AM
You should stand by your words, and not call other people names…you are are birther.
Next time, try to find a post where you haven’t already hung yourself, before trying to take someone else down.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Geez, isn’t there anyone working in that Hawaii dept. of records who can leak this damn thing and get it over with? Good grief, if Obama were a Republican, the birth certificate and ALL of his other missing records would have been leaked a long time ago. If it’s got something bad in it, I figure someone can leak it and then turn around and claim whistle blower status. Again, if this were a Republican president that leaker would be running the place in 6 months.
Rational Thought on July 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Just. The. College. Applications.
That’s all.
Key West Reader on July 28, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Read this you birthers…read this…the “where he was born” has been resolved legally, Dr. Fukino is the final word. Obama has given all the information he needs to.
Find and research the other areas that he has held “secret”…but this one item, where he was born, is not a “secret”.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM
And I have not seen them.
We’re even.
drjohn on July 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 9:53 AM
blah blah blah. I want to see documents.
When I made a comment about the Dr. being paid by soros or the king of saudi, I was KIDDING.
I’m sorry that you cannot see that. If I weren’t kidding, I wouldn’t have finished the statement with “lol” which means, laughing out loud, just so ya know.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Lets see now. The MSM takes every opportunity to paint republicans as evil nut cases even if they didn’t do anything. The dems want a single party government. Just about every collage drives it into the heads of our young that republicans are beyond evil. Basically anyone not towing the liberal line is just plain bad and you are worried that the BC thing will make republicans look nuts? To who?
Wow I guess the liberals don’t call conservatives “Wingnuts” without reason.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Distraction… I kid about the HI doctor… and I wouldn’t be surprised if we discovered 50 years from now that she was covering for BHO… but it doesn’t matter. The Left will only use this to discredit criticisms of Obamacare and Cap & Destroy.
The 53% who wanted this incompetent criminal don’t care about the birth issue. They voted for him anyway… and they remain unconvinced (and don’t care)… BUT a significant number have moved away from him on the crucial issues of our day.
A greatly wounded BHO is more valuable to the Right than a sympathetic one.
mankai on July 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM
It would seem that everyone is ignoring the natural-born requirement for presidential qualification. Why is that? Is this the start of a wide-ranging assault on the Constitution? Do the first and second amendments follow?
OldEnglish on July 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM
My son had to show his birth cert for Little League Travel ball.
‘Nuff said.
LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Just a tad illegal.
I agree…he might be hiding something, like who his “real” birth father might or might not be, who knows. As Huckabee, of all people, said the other day, if there were truly any shred of evidence Obama wasn’t born a US citizen, the Hillary camp would have found and used it in the primaries.
JetBoy on July 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Quick, Batman!! Return the Kenyan campaign donations! 7/28/09 – Politico
Key West Reader on July 28, 2009 at 9:58 AM
“I repeat: it’s not the birthplace that he’s hiding.
baldilocks on July 28, 2009 at 9:52 AM”
Good point, B.
LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 9:58 AM
That’s what I’m talking about! I woke up this morning thinking “Oh yeah! Conservatives just aren’t marginalized enough. What can I do today to push us farther to the margins and project an image of nutiness that people don’t want to empower no matter how ineffecient the other guys are?” – boom! this was just sitting right here for me. I love it when it’s this easy.
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Frank Marshall Davis?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on July 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM
I think the BIGGER story here is WHY this issue has become hot once again.
People are increasingly outraged and desperately looking for any way to get this turd out of office as fast as possible.
Daggett on July 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM
You are EXACTLY right.
Key West Reader on July 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM
As nutty as Ron Paul is, and consdering he votes “No” on everything, HE didn’t even touch this one when the House voted on the resolution – he didn’t vote.
When the Crazy Uncle won’t touch the issue, you probably oughta let it go.
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM
He should have never gotten into office in the first place. If only more of the ultra-cons could have found it in themselves to back McCain. Dem’s might have voted Obama in, but a lot of Repubs held the door open for him.
But I digress.
JetBoy on July 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM
I think the issue is “hot” once again because Obama is losing traction with the people.
The media looooves to paint the other side with dark colors if it takes the attention off of O’s pathetic job.
and I meant nothing racial by using the term ‘dark colors’
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Obama better watch it… Overwhelming majority view his plan as Socialized Medicine.
Key West Reader on July 28, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Comment of the day.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Maybe the Democrats will stop bringing this issue up now, though I’m sure they’ve discovered that talking about their plans just makes more Americans realize how stupid their plans are. That’s why they’d rather talk about anything other than policy. Notice how the only people who keep bringing this issue up are Democrats?
JohnJ on July 28, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Maybe he went Crazy Ivan?
OldEnglish on July 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM
sure sign this has gone on too long:
I’m beginning to miss the threads where the Know Nothings blathered on and on …
corona on July 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM
My interest in this story is pretty low; I’m much more concerned by the fact that my money and personal freedoms are going down the crapper every single day under this guy. So I’m not a Birther, BUT I do find it peculiar that he refuses to share any kind of information about himself and that this is just accepted as a matter of course. If there’s nothing to hide, then why not just release the information and put it to rest once and for all? I’m beginning to think there’s some truth to the fact that THEY are the ones stirring up this conspiracy theory again, in order to distract and make the opposition appear nuts.
Even if he WAS born in Kenya, I’m still of the opinion that he’s a U.S. citizen by virtue of the fact that his mother was, so I don’t even believe that’s an issue. Nevertheless, this determination would be the purview of the Supreme Court, NOT some hack bureaucrat in Hawaii, so I can understand why this answer is not an acceptable one for Birthers. Furthermore, I find it outrageous that ordinary citizens apparently have no standing to challenge this fact in court. If the PEOPLE don’t have the right to question whether their president is eligible to hold office, who the hell is? These are the more alarming questions about this story to me.
NoLeftTurn on July 28, 2009 at 10:11 AM
“I will not raise those allegations that might open it up to Hillary,” Hubbell told his wife Suzanna in one phone call, responding to a White House friend’s fear that his dispute with the law firm could create problems for the first lady. “So I need to roll over one more time.”
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Here’s how Ron Paul voted the other day:
…he’s principled enough to oppose this, but apparently not to vote down a measure stating something he “has no proof of”?
That’s what I call a good indicator.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Well, now that I know there actually IS a hard copy of the Cert. I want to see it too. And I haven’t bothered to get involved in this nonsense, not because I don’t smell a rat (I do) but rather, because I knew all along that there was no way McCain was going to beat him. So it should be easy enough to end this nonsense; SHOW US THE CERT!!!!
KMC1 on July 28, 2009 at 10:14 AM
“Everyone lies about sex.”
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM
The issue has become hot again because we have Birthers on camera screaming at their rep to demand why we haven’t done anything to strop this foreign born usurper. It was our moment to shine and shine we did!
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 10:16 AM
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Word.
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM
“The issue has become hot again because we have Birthers on camera screaming at their rep to demand why we haven’t done anything to strop this foreign born usurper. It was our moment to shine and shine we did!
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 10:16 AM”
Yeah. And Trig ain’t Sarah’s. Go crawl back under your rock at DU, beatoff.
LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM
But these are individuals that are suing out of private interest not The People. I don’t recall any of these individuals that have sued asking to represent me. Does anybody else? A random collection of people with the same concerns is not the same thing as The People. The People have duly appointed representatives that are empowered to pursue this. The people empowered to pursue this have laughed it off the table. Get new reps or move along. I’d like to see somebody run & win on a Birther campaign. *grin*
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I’m sorry. I didn’t see where you addressed the substance of my comment. Is that response behind Curtain No. 1 or something?
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Aug 2, 1998 “…Lewinsky’s Little Blue Dress Has Washington All Atwitter,” -CNN.
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Where’s the official Press Release? It’s not here:
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/pressdir.html
singer on July 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM
You want to “see” the documents…what other “documents have you seen.
Have you seen Bush’s “documents”, or just copies on the internet.
Get it, you and no one else will “see” or “touch” those documents.
Dr. Fukino is the person, along with his associates that get to “see” them, no you or some other blogger.
Copies are on the internet…look them over and find a noted forgery expert to state they are not real.
And then find some proof that Dr. Fukino, and DR. Okubo and others are telling lies, and are proven liars and connivers.
Then tell me how the Honolulu Advertiser, who got their information electronically from the Health Services dept., in 1961 allowed someone to tap in and place an birth ad for Obama.
You guys are looking more and more desperate and foolsih…lol
You guys are evolving into full blown, goose stepping, truthers…lol
You guys are embarrassing the conservative party…
lolright2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Was it the one officially released by the state, with a state seal?
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM
And hurt us it did. Why I remember how the libs lost the 2008 election because of the crazy lady with blood on her hands going at Rice. Man I bet if it weren’t for her BO would be in the WH chugging some beers with his friend.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Again the moon landing was staged in the Arizona desert.
9/11 has Bush fingerprints all over it
equality on July 28, 2009 at 10:38 AM
You said it! It would be about as effective as when the libs tried that stupid Trig campaign. oh wait…….
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 10:39 AM
I might be careful. That sounds more like a front operation for recruiting the next generation of NWO operatives. They obviously aren’t demanding a birth certificate to play Little League – it’s so they can make sure that they’ve got the right child before implanting the control chip.
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Hawai’i Democrat government hack: “Yes, he was born here”.
(laughter)
Del Dolemonte on July 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM
My son had to show his birth cert for Little League Travel ball.
‘Nuff said.
LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Yes, but did you show it to us? Until we can see a real, authentic document, what you are saying is irrelevant.
No proof, No Troof!
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Actually the so called conservative party has embarrased me by calling itself conservative and not being so.
bridgetown on July 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
And Gore really won the 2000 election, Bush was AWOL, and he stole Ohio in the 2004 elections.
See, it works both ways, kid.
Del Dolemonte on July 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Society does not treat all crazies the same. Some are less socially acceptable than others – I would suggest that the tolerance level for birthers is rather low indeed if this is the reception they get from the party they are supposed to be an active force in.
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
You forgot the /sarc tag.
That’s funny…you know there are actually people who do believe that?
Hard to fathom, but some people, few weirdos, actually believe what you posted…of course 98% of the people laugh at them and shake their head in pity.
Great funny post, thanks for reminding us there are some really kooky people out there that believe in the most inane and foolish theories.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Where’s the official Press Release? It’s not here:
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/pressdir.html
singer on July 28, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Another conspiracy! 11!!ELEVEN!!11
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM
no, what makes conservatives look silly is listening to a guy who said “I want him to fail”…or something like that
runner on July 28, 2009 at 10:44 AM
I’m starting to lean towards this option.
There has to be something The Kenyan doesn’t want us to see on that BC, or he wouldn’t be so determined to keep it under wraps.
tsj017 on July 28, 2009 at 10:45 AM
If what’s he’s doing is evil and stupid, who wants him to succeed?
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM
OK. You’ve seen it. Now the rest of us want to see it, too.
scrubjay on July 28, 2009 at 10:46 AM
My concern is this poster can’t click on the link and see the press release…
This falls into a “level 3″ conspiracy…code orange…sound the alarms.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Obama’s mother paid the Hawaiian news paper to announce his birth. I heard she paid $5000. Which used to be a lot of money back then. I’m shocked!!!!!
equality on July 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Well he doesn’t have to because:
1. He doesn’t work for us.
2. He doesn’t have to meet any constitutional requirements to play.
The only thing sillier then the reasons people want to see the BC are the reasons people are coming up with to discredit the birthers.
It’s not the birthers that are an embarrassment because they are easily discounted. It’s all the conservitives screaming the sky is falling because the birthers want to see the BC.
It seems to me that if the conservatives supported and ran to the defense of McCain half as well as they are for BO that McCain may have won.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM
What city on you in, they are taking it on “tour”, next month, starting in Seattle, then the bus is working it’s way down the west coast…you can get advanced viewing tickets by contacting them at http://www.nuttybirthers.com, and see their schedule.
A special $5 donation that will go to “hidetheCOLB foundation” will be asked.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Hawai’i Republican governor hack: “Yes, he was born here”.
Birthers: SHUT UP!
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 10:51 AM
If Obama released his birth certificate, it wouldn’t stop the idiots who think he wasn’t born in Hawaii. They’d just call it a fake.
Welcome to the same club that had Vince Foster murdered by the Clintons, and George W. Bush in league with the oil industry to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.
Nuts. All of them.
Meryl Yourish on July 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Thank you.
There’s one question: May we see your birth certificate, sir?
There are twenty answers why we can’t, or shouldn’t want to, or should worry about more important things, etc.
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 10:52 AM
here is a sarc tag, just for you :
“no, what makes conservatives look silly is listening to a guy who said “I want him to fail”…or something like that”
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runner on July 28, 2009 at 10:53 AM
I heard it was $50,000, no it was $500,0000, now normally I would ask for a link, but knowing you there is none, you just make things up..tell me, do you post this stuff for fun hoping that you will have some influence…or are you just a little bit crazy and lonely.
If you give us the city you live in, we can give you some references for people that can help you.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
What conservative party? All I see and hear is the BO party.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Agreed. Still, it is annoying to see Obama play this game with the American people, continually baiting the Doubting Thomases such that it becomes a constant aggravation to the rest of us. But that, I believe, is why he does it, that is, to quote you again, “I’m beginning to think there’s some truth to the fact that THEY are the ones stirring up this conspiracy theory again, in order to distract and make the opposition appear nuts.”
There’s no such thing as bad press to a narcissist. They live to be in the lime light.
As for Obama being a natural born American, I have no doubt he meets the temporal criteria stated in the Constitution. I’d take a natural born American in the spiritual sense, over him any day of the week, however, no matter where they were born.
Dusty on July 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Sometimes I need extra help. Thanks.
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
“Was it the one officially released by the state, with a state seal?
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:33 AM”
(Hit’s self in forehead) Boy, oh boy am I stooopid birfer!!!
Actually we could bring a copy…but we have the “one with the seal” in his folder with medical records and his other stuff, like normal people. Our kids are on the up and up, unlike the teams with all mexicans…you know all the 5′9″ 12yr olds. Shame they reach their max height at 12.
LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Why do people continue to insist those whom are pursuing this won’t accept anything to sate their rabid fascination with Obama’s place of birth? From the beginning these folks have only requested Obama’s actual birth certificate released. We’re not talking about Truthers looking to uncover a complex and varied web of deceit involving numerous world leaders and American politicians, just asking for the release of a single document.
Seams like a simple request, with a simple solution. And now that this guy has said he’s seen the document, it will only propel the requests further until the document is released. Oh, I’m sure there will be many that will claim its fake, if its ever released, but for the majority that will be enough.
Then it will be onto Obama’s college records LOL.
smfoushee on July 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM
If this issue of being a Natural born citizen in order to become US president is so super SILLY, why did the founding fathers put the clause in the Constitution?
Ris4victory on July 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Well Obama provided the same thing.
And I hear you on the kids, my kids faced “12″ year olds that were shaving…honestly, shaving.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 10:57 AM
During the game?!
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 10:59 AM
He did release it…that is what the ruckus is about.
Look at the press release this is tied to, Obama was born in Hawaii, according to his COLB, and the records that back that up.
The COLB was the only official document that was issued for birth (for over 50 years)…it is now called the certificate of birth (or some variance) and is identical to the COLB (they just changed the name).
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:00 AM
They couldn’t do it without us. Without us screaming at reps in Deleware, introducing resolutions in Texas, and passing out flyers in LA there would be nothing for them to look at. This follows a similar pattern to the truthers — several months stirring around online followed by a viral explosion of interest. That doesn’t require media conspiracy.
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 11:01 AM
And…if that little suckhole Michael Medved says we’re crazy, there’s something to it.
LtE126 on July 28, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Yeah, in the dugout…with just the edge of a sharpened rock, they were tough kids…
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I can place a birth announcement right now on myself in any newspaper in the country – Just a phone call & a credit card. No newspaper verifies such things.
Obama’s mama was VERY YOUNG when she gave birth; I seriously doubt she would have even thought of placing such an announcement, being so young. It was probably placed by Stanley Ann’s parents, who did live in Hawaii and were proud to have a grandson.
Ris4victory on July 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Man.
Akzed on July 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM
OK, NOW the office reiterates that the director has “personally seen” the “original vital records”, meaning the Dept. does have it on file and it was not destroyed. Now the director says it was shown to confirm his birth, which is good for Obama, but no one is releasing it, as it is a “private document” that needs Obama permission for release. And Obama’s peoples say “nothing will ever convince the loonies, so I won’t release it.”
So if the original “long form” exists (though the director didn’t use the term “long form”, so she may have meant “short form” after all, and Obama just got a copy of the short) then if it were released, that would sway me.
Of course, it won’t be released, cause “nothing will ever please deniers”. There will always be a loony that denies truth, but that is no reason not to be truthful and forthcoming, especially when you have a constitutional requirement to do so.
Illustrate absurdity with absurdity- “I have a driver’s license officer, it’s real, I have to show you now that you pulled me over, but you won’t believe me anyway, so I’m not showing it to you.” Think the cop would say “no problem, move along citizen”?
It’s also cute that the House will propose a resolution saying Obama is a citizen. Course none of them have seen the long form either, but he11, they don’t read their own legislation. And why even have a resolution to do what a birth cert. or a govt. office charged with filing and DOCKETING this stuff should already have done?
It smells of a extra layer of official b.s. to coat the basic facts.
Illustrate absurdity with absurdity 2: “I have the world’s biggest d!ck, but you’d never believe me anyway, so I won’t drop my drawers to show you. So, by default, I must have the world’s biggest willy. And I’ll get a resolution of 200 people to say I do, even though they never saw it,just for good measure.
Saltyron on July 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM
GO BIRTHERS GO!
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Kooks. Sure, just pretend that this is the only evidence presented so far if that makes you feel good. Just ignore everything else and say ‘OMFG what evidence???!!!11′
Just like there’s no evidence at all, ever, that fire can weaken steel.
It would be funny for Popular Mechanics to do a piece debunking this just to see the ‘PM is a tool of the New World Order’ cranks come full circle.
JimRich on July 28, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Ahahahahah. Justice is sweet. Perhaps this will happen.
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Because they think it helps to de-legitimatize them and push them away. You see there are just a crap load of people that want to jump up and down screaming “Hey look at me. See I’m cool. I defend BO from crazy people.” and then there are the ones that think that if they trash the birthers that it will cause the rabid BO fans to see the light and change sides or there are the people that quiver at the thought that the birthers are just adding fuel to the leftest hatred of the right and should just let thinks lie as they are and last but not least there are the people that think that the birthers will bring the party to ruin.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:09 AM
So in your world, if some person in authority “rules” something, it’s fact?
Then you have to admit that Iraq played a role in 9/11, because a Federal Judge (appointed by Bill Clinton) ruled in a lawsuit that they helped participate in the attacks.
Thanks for playing!
Del Dolemonte on July 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Your utter ignorance of Hawai’i politics is duly noted. She’s nothning more than a puppet in a state that has been totally controlled by Democrats since the early 1960s.
Del Dolemonte on July 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Then your own example is false.
And the reason you are being derided is if you were to replace any mention of “birth certificate” with any 9/11 conspiracy, moon landing was faked or Bigfoot is real example, you’d sound exactly like that.
You’ll notice I made no mention of UFO’s. Because UFO’s are real.
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM
I, SouthernGent, saw a UFO. I have nothing further to add to the statement I made in October 2008 over 8 months ago…
SouthernGent on July 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM
You forgot to mentione the ones that are attempting to make a principled stand for what they believe the be reason and right. Most of the “you bring disrepute to the party” people are merely rejecting Birtherisms as politely as possible.
dieudonne on July 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM
I guess all scenarios to you are the same…the U.N. and Dr. Fukino are the same people to you?
Iraq and the dept of health services are the same to you?
You can’t discern between different eras, different venues, different facts, different agendas.
You think if someone rules how you don’t like then they are just like some judge Clinton appointed…can’t argue with that brilliant analysis.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:16 AM
You have to remember that it was almost 300 years ago and the FFs were really just a bunch of dumb old hicks without even flushing toilets. They never anticipated it could ever be an issue.
Or……
Because there are so many here that believe in time machines for placing adds or grand conspiracy of over 40 years. Maybe the FFs went ahead in time and saw that BO was bad so they put that clause in just for him or maybe like BO’s mom they planned ahead for when BO would be elected.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Lastly there are those of us that realize that birthers are plain retarded.
Abby Adams on July 28, 2009 at 11:18 AM
The Precedent didn’t release jack. If you consider an image being secrectly sent to Kos at midnight, and then examined by a couple of people, who were only allowed to report back about what they had seen, to be a “release” then you’re a bigger moron than your posts here would indicate (and that’s pretty friggin’ bad).
You BHO apologists are dead weight and the death of the right. You are no different from the morons who tried to shove the Shamnesty down our throats, in violation of our law and sovereignty.
You are a useful idiot. Congrats, you destructive tool of the left.
progressoverpeace on July 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Or the globe is heating up because of people.
I know but I have to keep the shields up least the public know the truth.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:25 AM
So everyone in a position of authority that makes a statement that disagrees with your conspiracy theory is a puppet. I guess that’s “knowledge of Hawai’ian politics”.
Keep sputtering the same “I’m an expert, you’re not” crap. It helps your case enormously.
MadisonConservative on July 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM
In what way?
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Posted incorrect link to archives. Still can’t see it.
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/pressdate.html
singer on July 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Birthers are not retarded.
They simply have faith that no matter what evidence is offered up, it is false.
There’s nothing that will change their minds on this issue even though 99% of Americans believe Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.
Oh wait – that IS retarded.
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Thanks for helping me understand what that nagging feeling that I’m different really means.
But what do you call someone who hires a top law firm and pays that law firm over $1,000,000 to keep secret the evidence that would confirm my retarded state?
*crickets*
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Question for Constiutional Scholars: Does it say anywhere in the Constitution that the president has to be human? I’m pretty sure it says he has to be male.
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM
IMO this is a telling blow on the Born in Africa front.
I just wonder what LEGAL STANDARD she used to make the statement that he is a “natural born citizen”… as that is the second part of the question (the dual citizen question, which I always thought was the better question).
She made a legal distinction from CITIZEN when she used that exact phrase.
Its also interesting that she made this statement at all, as she is not supposed to release information without permission, was she therfore given permission? And on the same day that the House voted?
Someone is trying, after months of non action, to put this whole thing to rest. Could it be because Maj. Cook will be granted Standing in his lawsuit, and thus discovery will be enabled?
Romeo13 on July 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM
What was that anyway? Was it a copy which would explain the bleed though of the stamp. Was it electronically sent which is no document at all. The first few pictures don’t show a raised seal so I would suspect it was a copy or a scan. Both could have the bleed though from the other side. If it was sent electronically then it’s complete trash because it could to easily be altered.
About Kos. Why them and not a national respected newspaper like the NYT?
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:34 AM
You’re not helping, Doctor, when you misspell his name.
Enoxo on July 28, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Let me get this straight.
The head of the Health Services are lying, both of them.
The Honolulu Advertiser and Star News reporters who saw the original last year are lying
The Chicago Tribune who saw the original are lying
Forget the dKos ( I don’t know why you guys are infatuated by them, I have never seen their site regarding this), but all the other sites that have his certificate posted are lying.
In 1961 the Honolulu Advertiser, which received its information directly from the Health Services dept (the only place it got that info), posted Obama’s birth as a conspiracy to be unfolded 40+ years later.
The state of Hawaii is run by a Republican Governor, a personal friend and supporter of Palin.
Yet, all these people have conspired to keep you from knowing where Obama was actually born.
And no birther has ever come up with one shred of evidence, not one reliable physical piece of evidence, not one recognized state official, one expert, showing he was born anywhere but Hawaii….
Yeah, you have a real strong case…
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM
So if the birthers represent only 1% of the American people why is everyone in such a state of panic over them? How many of that 1% are voters and how many vote republican? I guess that the conservatives and republicans are in far worse ship then I thought if they really think that just a small percentage of people could ruin the party.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Maybe because it is not updated, the last link is on the 13th and this is the 28th?
Good going Sherlock…
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
“In an e-mail, according to the Times, Klein wrote that CNN researchers had determined that Obama’s 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawai’i officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 — a claim denied yesterday by Isle health officials.”
Excellent work by CNN’s researchers!
Wander on July 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Like I said, you’re a useful idiot. You should be very proud. Very few stick up for the anti-American marxist and trash the Constitution like you, though the other BHO supporters in this thread are no slouches, themselves. The left loves all your work.
Maybe you can call me a bigot, to bring back that old Shamnesty feeling. You despise our Constitution as much as those dirtbags did.
progressoverpeace on July 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
But they’re talking about wanting the actual vital records document, not the certificate right? Why can’t he just release the vital records and be done with this?
This whole debacle just underscores a larger issue with Obama, that we don’t know a lot about him which leads people to use him as a blank slate, projecting whatever ideals and beliefs they want to believe onto him and his administration.
If all we’re talking about is the release of a document, that this official says exists, then do it now, or Friday, and be done with it.
smfoushee on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Someone is trying, after months of non action, to put this whole thing to rest. Could it be because Maj. Cook will be granted Standing in his lawsuit, and thus discovery will be enabled?
Romeo13 on July 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Maj Cook is a buddy f&^ker of the 1st order.
Irregardless of his opinion about Obama’s birth, his “lawsuit” trying to prove the point is in poor taste, given the circumstances of his deployment (or now non-deployment).
Trying to make a point on the backs of your buddies is dirty pool.
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
“Barrack?”
Interesting spelling. Is that how it appears on his Hawaiian certificate?
Christien on July 28, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Hell yeah! I knew we could turn you around! They always said right2bright was the key and if you have he/she/it then you have the world at your finger tips. It’s a good day that’s for sure.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Sweet, now I am a tool of the left….yeah, that makes you are real brainiac…
You ignore official statements, and you rely on a $13 a month website for your information….some guy states he knows a forgery when he sees one, and that is who you follow.
I think I am beginning to see why the really stupid lefties won the election.
Their stupid are smarter then our stupid…
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:43 AM
What do you mean “vital records”…place of birth is basically the only argument…and that has been resolved for all but the few hard core birther fanatics.
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Darn it all. I withdraw my last “Hell yeah!” because now you admit to being a tool. It’s now pretty clear that you made believe you were turn just to infiltrate the birthers.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM
You rock!
Thanks for the heads up about Mexican cheaters. You’re right; they are hardly normal. You’re doing yeoman’s work. You go girl.
The Race Card on July 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Bingo. I would like to get Dr. Fukimo under oath and ask her if she has seen the original, long-form birth certificate filled out at the hospital. Also, if the original BC has had any alterations, what hospital he was born at, etc.
She did a classic political double-speak using the term “vital records” when the stupid b!tch knows we are all asking for the “long-form birth certificate“. But most political people are most interested in their own well-being so under oath she may just back track on that absurd statement.
mrsmwp on July 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Really? Did you know that he was fired from his real job (hes a reservist) where he worked in IT for a Defenses Contrator company? His CEO told him it was due to DOD pressure. He also apparently lost his security clearence even though he NEVER DISOBEYED AN ORDER… his orders were cancelled.
This effort to shut him up, if its all true, is very troubling, as its very hard to argue that he does not have standing, as its his DUTY under OATH to protect and defend the Constitution of the US.
Romeo13 on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
So if the birthers represent only 1% of the American people why is everyone in such a state of panic over them? How many of that 1% are voters and how many vote republican? I guess that the conservatives and republicans are in far worse ship then I thought if they really think that just a small percentage of people could ruin the party.
jmarcure on July 28, 2009 at 11:38 AM
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Yes, such a small % of people can cause amazing damage. Sorry, not cause – ARE causing. Birthers look like pi$$y morons and make the party look stupid and immature.
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Also, I have two questions for you people that are against the “birthers”:
1. If all of the news networks and newspapers were the ones asking for the BC (I know, I can dream) and there was no danger of embarassment to conservatives, would you then like to see the BC or any of the records?
2. Doesn’t it make you feel a little bit slimy defending BO right alongside the trolliest HotAir trolls, Chris Matthews and every other lib scumbag?
Just curious…
mrsmwp on July 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM
So, in your opinion, a Dual Citizen can be President? Under the Natural Born Clause?
And anyone who actualy read a few things by John Jay… and the Constitution itself… and the Supreme Court writitngs on that question… are Moron?
Yes, such a small % of people can cause amazing damage. Sorry, not cause – ARE causing. Birthers look like pi$$y morons and make the party look stupid and immature.
Romeo13 on July 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Obviously, this guy is a shill or something.
COVER-UP!@!!
Good Lt on July 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
One million dollars and counting.
A small price to pay to keep a secret, right?
But birthers are retarded, right?
Down the rabbit hole we go, Alice. We are NOT in Kansas any more, Dorothy.
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Posted incorrect link to archives. Still can’t see it.
Well, well Mr. Watson, wouldn’t you expect that a press release of this “magnitude” would warrant an immediate posting to the HI website? (After all, they’ve probably released 5,10,15 other statements in the last two weeks.) And please, in the future, refer to me as Mr. Holmes.
singer on July 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Lemme’ see if I got this straight…
“Silly” Conservatives want to see it.
“Silly” Democrats don’t want to show it.
“Silly” me wonders, if the document reconciles with the rhetoric?
Conclusion: prob’ly not.
Tangled web, and all that
franksalterego on July 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM
It doesn’t matter who is on your side if you are right.
JimRich on July 28, 2009 at 11:59 AM
So, in your opinion, a Dual Citizen can be President? Under the Natural Born Clause?
And anyone who actualy read a few things by John Jay… and the Constitution itself… and the Supreme Court writitngs on that question… are Moron?
Yes, such a small % of people can cause amazing damage. Sorry, not cause – ARE causing. Birthers look like pi$$y morons and make the party look stupid and immature.
There are three classes of intellects: one which comprehends by itself; another which appreciates what others comprehend; and a third which neither comprehends by itself nor by the showing of others; the first is the most excellent, the second is good, and the third is useless.
Machiavelli
Romeo13 on July 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
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YOU’RE HAVING SO MUCH FUN!
I heard your country was trying to overhaul its healthcare system. That sounds like important stuff. Someone should pay attention to that.
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM
So why are you here, instead of there?
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM
One million dollars and counting.
A small price to pay to keep a secret, right?
But birthers are retarded, right?
Down the rabbit hole we go, Alice. We are NOT in Kansas any more, Dorothy.
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM
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Hmmmm now exactly what is Obama spending all these legal fees on?
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Fair enough. Then it shouldn’t matter that Philip Berg is a “truther”.
mrsmwp on July 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM
To kill all the lawsuits demanding proof of ‘natural born’ status.
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM
The Hawai’ian official said she’s seen the vital records, not the COLB, which these people want to see. I’m only suggesting that if the records exists release them and be done with the whole issue.
smfoushee on July 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM
To kill all the lawsuits demanding proof of ‘natural born’ status.
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM
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Hmmmm and what is Palin spending all her legal fees on?
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Private citizen spending is not comparative to political coverups.
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Maybe this comes down to he name of the father on the original BC.
Maybe that was changed from “Father Unknown” to Obama Sr.
If so, that makes the 2 bios of Pres BO fake, and his whole back story.
Maybe that’s what he hinted at on pg. 26 of his book.
Maybe that IS worth covering up.
Wander on July 28, 2009 at 12:41 PM
yo-ou ca-an’t seeeeeeee it…ha ha ,ha ha, haaaaaaaaaa,ha!!!!
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signed: He has lied about everything else, but NOT this
….yeah right.
.
o, & this from a previous thread here:
‘the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.’
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2009/Q1/C00431445/B_PAYEE_C00431445.html
lobosan5 on July 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM
You my Holmey?
right2bright on July 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM
It’s interesting that two junk reporters are supposed to have seen the original, but the nation can’t. Something smells.
OldEnglish on July 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Ding ding ding – we have a winner!
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Romeo13 on July 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Yes, really.
This guy volunteered for a deployment to Afghanistan. Upon gettin his orders for deployment, he brought up the lawsuit with the BC stuff.
Once the guy’s orders were cancelled or rescinded or whatever it caused another military guy to get pulled to take his spot, on short notice at that. this, in the military is what we call “buddy f*&king”. If there wasn’t a replacement sent in for him, then the unit he volunteered to was sent to the AO SHORT a body.
I don’t give a crap about the guys personal life. He used this as an opportunity to try to make a political point and screwed someone else in the process.
On this guy, the birther aspect is irrelevant.
catmman on July 28, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Private citizen spending is not comparative to political coverups.
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
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You miss the point.
A person who is the target of dozens (hundreds?) of lawsuit has to spend money to fight those lawsuits.
You genius birthers are wetting your pants shrieking that that’s an admission of guilt or evidence that something is being covered up.
So ridiculous.
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Not shrieking. Stating realities.
Choice A – stand firm and spend a million dollars.
Choice B – Prove that they’re full of crap for less than $20 and move on.
Only one answer is rational UNLESS keeping something secret is essential.
I wouldn’t spend any more money proving a point than absolutely necessary to spend.
Does that make me crazy?
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I think there’s a larger frustration here. I think people are just plain tired of not getting straight answers from Washington, period.
Especially now from what was sold to us as the most transparent administration evah.
pfamis on July 28, 2009 at 1:13 PM
What would you call a movement who’s case has SO MUCH merit that the only attorney taking it is a dentist/real estate agent who went to an unaccredited internet law school…
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Not shrieking. Stating realities.
Choice A – stand firm and spend a million dollars.
Choice B – Prove that they’re full of crap for less than $20 and move on.
Only one answer is rational UNLESS keeping something secret is essential.
I wouldn’t spend any more money proving a point than absolutely necessary to spend.
Does that make me crazy?
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 1:10 PM
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Ahh, so when there are dozens of lawsuits filed against you, you just hold a press conference and say X, and poof the lawsuits all disappear.
SO AMAZING
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 1:15 PM
What would you call a movement who’s case has SO MUCH merit that the only attorney taking it is a dentist/real estate agent who went to an unaccredited internet law school…
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 1:13 PM
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ha ha ha
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Romeo,
I know you are a Chief but surely you can understand that what Mr. Cook did was conduct unbecoming. PLaying games with the deployment system is no better than what that coward Ehren Watada did.
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Well, that is certainly a big part of it. The President does need to lie about some things (usually national security) but there is no reason for this to have gone on this long.
What might have been just prideful stubbornness increasingly looks like trapped desperation. What’s up with that?
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 1:17 PM
That’s about how this would go. You don’t seriously believe that a federal judge is going to rule that he’s not a citizen if a long form BC photocopy is submitted as evidence in one of these cases.
You’re way out there but you’re not over the horizon. Even you know that cutting to the chase cuts the legs out from all the lawsuits.
So of what is the Chicago thug afraid?
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 1:24 PM
When you find a circuit willing to hear this case let a brotha know.
Squid Shark on July 28, 2009 at 1:27 PM
I think that deploy/non-deploy Army officer has found a perch.
BTW, any serious law professor will candidly tell you that the best constitutional law briefs (and the most meaningful SCOTUS con law decisions) come from convicts in prison with no attorneys helping.
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 1:34 PM
That’s about how this would go. You don’t seriously believe that a federal judge is going to rule that he’s not a citizen if a long form BC photocopy is submitted as evidence in one of these cases.
You’re way out there but you’re not over the horizon. Even you know that cutting to the chase cuts the legs out from all the lawsuits.
So of what is the Chicago thug afraid?
platypus on July 28, 2009 at 1:24 PM
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Ha ha ha so someone files a lawsuit against you and you get this envelope in the mail and you just leave it on the fireplace mantle and ignore it or something.
Dave Rywall on July 28, 2009 at 1:37 PM
You posted this:
…Shortly after posting this:
Keep moving those goalposts.
JimRich on July 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM