J.A. Farrell
The new nation would have to raise an Army and a Navy and an Air Force from scratch, of course. For the first few years, if it didn’t want to be gobbled up by Mexico or intimidated by the hugely irritated United States to the north, there would probably have to be confiscatory taxation, and a draft of a million or so healthy men and women over 18, just to guard its thousands of miles of borders. The drug violence and corruption in Mexico would quickly move north and permeate the new nation. Loyal Americans would no doubt launch a resistance movement. Under such conditions, in this militaristic state, we can assume that certain “adjustments” would be made in civil liberties.
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Somehow I doubt that’d be that frightening. My guess is that they’d be much more likely to relocate to the giant country to the north rather than try to fight a war.
Honestly, he raises some good points, but, I’d bet many of these points were the same ones raised to the founding fathers when they were talking about Independence as well. Americans paid much higher taxes post independence than pre, but they were setting the agenda and that made all the difference.
JadeNYU on April 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
What would it look like?
Free.
GunRunner on April 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I’m excited that this is gaining traction. It may just come to fruition in a couple years after all.
OneGyT on April 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Wow, that’s just a terrible blog, even for the normal neocon screeds.
The best solution would be to install Ron Paul as a limited monarch. Then we wouldn’t have to worry about the civil liberties issue. One challenge would be to build a border wall (which we should have already), but with surely much lower taxation than the rest of the Union, I don’t buy that there would be a lack of brainpower. By then America will be crushed in debt at any rate.
The Dean on April 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Thanks, but that is not really up to you John.
Ars Moriendi on April 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Very crowded.
Daggett on April 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
They might just finish the wall along the border that we were promised. Then expell non-productive dwellers who don’t communicate in English.
Sounding pretty good to me.
stenwin77 on April 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
USA ain’t sh*t! There. Just wanted to make sure there’s at least one thread where I’m most conservative and patriotic.
radiofreevillage on April 17, 2009 at 9:07 PM
It would be tough. But it would have the best chance of success in Texas. It has A LOT of land; the nation’s second largest port; complete infrastructure in oil, natural gas and steel fabrication; it’s on its own electric grid (ERCOT); large presence in heavy construction/ engineering; it’s rich in minerals; a strong sense of state pride and identity; it’s extremely wealthy; and last but not least, awesome BBQ. It’s at least a start.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM
You know, his egging them on seems to belittle him.
Free Constitution on April 17, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Like heaven, but with Chicken fried steaks and Frito pie.
TheSitRep on April 17, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Well considering how much of the nation’s energy we control, maybe raising taxes wouldn’t be all that necessary.
This is a state that doesn’t have an income tax. We had a hard time getting DC to relinquish funds for Hurricane Ike cleanup because we had a surplus and they claimed we didn’t need federal aid.
obladioblada on April 17, 2009 at 9:16 PM
AP, run a poll. I don’t want to suggest the way to phrase questions. You know me. They’d be “left-wing”. But something along the lines of: Texas without USA. 1) Sounds great (yes, I’m a conservative) 2) I like USA (Kill me, I’m a RINO/libtard)
radiofreevillage on April 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Don’t forget the agribusiness, nuclear energy, Texas Rangers and guns.
We certainly wouldn’t be prosecuting South Texas farmers for holding illegal aliens at gunpoint.
obladioblada on April 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM
sitrep, what makes you think heaven won’t have chicken fried steak and frito pie?
The Apologist on April 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
That is the most passive-aggressive piece of crap I have read concerning Texas.
First the slams:
…a minority of idiotic right-wing rednecks who are ruining their economy and forfeiting their liberties and giving up the blessings of belonging to the greatest and richest nation…
Then the nice touch of praise at the end:
As for the rest of us, we in America would miss the wonderful sly humor, the rich culture, the courage and patriotism and poetry of our brothers and sisters in Texas. The benefits that this great state bring us far outweigh the burdens—the Dallas Cowboys, W, Roger Clemens—that we sometimes have to endure.
This guy uses an obvious liberal tactic that, at least, I did not fall for.
J.A. Farrell: I know your intent for writing this piece was to put the fear into Texans that somehow we are dependent upon the US, but you forget this state’s area (261797 sq m)is larger than Spain (194883 sq m) with a population of 24,178,180 people. And being a hack, bringing out the race card that has no relevance, and trying to make it sound so intimidating that the whites would be in the minority.
Anglo 11,327,165
Black 2,706,984
Hispanic 9,116,908
Other 1,027,123
That is really checking your facts there sir.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
What would it like like? The future.
BHO Jonestown on April 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
North Korea and South Korea. Night and Day. Brain drain my left foot, Texas becomes the right wing hub, right wing minds will go there. In 20 years the liberal leeches and rampant immigration will tell the tale outside Texas’ borders. Just a thought.
Cardiganfox on April 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
By the way, is anyone else sick of this sudden wave of patriotism that liberals seem to have in buckets all of a sudden?
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:28 PM
I like how the author only lists those elements that would be detrimental to Texas. His assumption is that everything the U.S. would do to stop Texas would work, and everything Texas would do to survive would fail. Nothing in life is that cut and dry. What if Texas left and several Gulf states went with it? What if, when Texas left, a significant portion of the population in other states decided to come into Texas to help? What if other nations took advantage of the U.S. having to deal with Texas, and started causing trouble for the U.S. in other areas, forcing the U.S. to expend resources in several areas? What if China calls the U.S. debt, the dollar completely falls, and no one in the nation is interested in what Texas is doing, and is only worried about what their state is doing? All this guy does is say, “Well, the U.S. will put up a blockade, and that will be that.” “The drug violence will spill over, and that will be that” “Oil? Pshaw! There’s no more oil in Texas! Everyone knows that. *snort*” It’s never that cut and dry. And let me say, no I don’t think Texas should leave.
True dat.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Hey, and maybe they’d put prayer and God back in schools.
stenwin77 on April 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM
On this, we agree. Do it Allahpundit.
Judging from how supportive the vast majority of comments are here, I would say it would be very one-sided.
You know, all this talk of secession was something that I was expressing as being a long shot just two days ago. I was even stressing how important it is that we fight to stay in the USA. But if these liberals (?) continue on this path, they might just make it happen. We are a prideful people and don’t like negative crap that isn’t true.
By the way, I assumed the guy who wrote this posted blog was liberal. It is really getting hard to tell the difference these days with the RINO’s.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM
He seems to forget that if Texas left it would also probably pull several of the surrounding states with it. Many in the south and central states would likely come join the new republic, as it would still be the only republic available to choose from.
If you look at the variety of possible options if things get really bad – secession would probably be the best option. You could go quietly to the “camps”, you could sell your soul and join the
democratcommunist party, you could try an armed overthrow of the government/civil war (very bloody) or you could split into a separate country. Given the options, secession doesn’t look that bad.Corsair on April 17, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Why the hell would they need to raise an Army? They have Fort Hood, they have a B-1 Wing or Two. I know they have a few ANG groups and finally, they have control over an Arty Battalion at Fort Sill. Simply order them down before you announce.
Tim Burton on April 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM
What would it look like?
My new home!!!!!!!!!!!
katy on April 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM
If America continues spiraling around Obama’s socialist toilet bowl preparing for the final plunge, Texas would benefit massively by seceding. Not only would freedom loving American’s flock there, many of whom are wealthy and productive, but corporations would as well, seeking to avoid cumbersome and costly regulations and confiscatory taxation.
Texas would be the beneficiary of America’s failed legacy of prosperity. Their population would grow at a massive pace. Real estate costs would skyrocket. There would be a housing boom. America’s unemployed would flock there looking for work. The American dollar would plummet, (which is likely to happen anyway), as the Texas dollar gained prominence.
As America sinks into a Utopian oblivion of socialism, Texas, which would double or triple in population in short order, would become the new standard bearer, the last bastion, of freedom and liberty in the world.
If this happens I suspect that The US will eventually be dissolved and a new union will be formed with Texas in the lead.
IMO
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM
What would it look like? A Christian Nation
Christian Conservative on April 17, 2009 at 9:39 PM
A federal appeals court on Monday upheld a Texas law that requires public school students to observe a daily minute of silence in order to pray, reflect or otherwise remain quiet.
We already fought just have a freaking moment of silence.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Come on Katy! We even have a city named after you outside of Houston.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:39 PM
UST
The United States of Texas
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM
What…? They’ve decided to pay their taxes now? Where’d ya hear that?
katy on April 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM
More like:
1. Not yet (but I sure enjoy talking about it)
2. Sounds great
3. No (I’d prefer the state services and taxes in NY, NJ or CA an can’t wait for Obama-Care)
obladioblada on April 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM
I am so there!!! I really am!
Katy, Texas…. hummmm sounds good…
katy on April 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM
We ain’t (that’s right – ain’t) afraid of Mexico. We’d control the border. We’d control crime. We’d take care of ourselves. Last weekend, my wife and I visited Goliad, site of a massacre of fellow Texans by the mexican army. We remembered and returned the favor. I was insprired by the visit and saw many parallels between Texas then and America now.
We’re tough as coffin nails down here. And if you don’t believe me – remember what they used to say about the Texas Rangers.
One Riot. One Ranger.
Yeah. We’re that tough.
madmonkphotog on April 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM
Remember the Russian dude who said a few months back that the U.S. was going to break up? Maybe . . .
dingbat on April 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM
I think his kool-aid was a little strong. They don’t have a million men in arms guarding the border now, why would they then? And Texas does have an Army and Air Force. It’s called the Guard. The US would probably want their tanks and planes back, but I think Texas could find some one to sell them more. And they wouldn’t need to raise taxes, just keep what Texans are paying in Federal taxes now.
I hope it doesn’t come to that, but I think Texas would do well on it’s own.
Sgtmack on April 17, 2009 at 9:45 PM
I think he got New York and Texas mixed up.
The whole thing is goofy, but hypothetically, he’s got it completely wrong.
Asher on April 17, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Pretty much what it looks today: North Mexico.
benny shakar on April 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM
I gave up the secession talk on here around the time McCain was eating it against totus, and then took a hiatus from commenting here just to lurk around.
The trouble with how things are is that the left wing media denigrates right wingers and conservatives and their ideas, they very effectively ridicule our potential future leaders (Palin) and chose our representatives in elections through media bias, that we may not want (McCain) The right wing no longer controls its party or future and is no longer respected or wanted, so then their wish is their command, we should just go away. Now that their is talk of splitting they cry about it, its dumb. I doubt it’ll ever happen though (secession).
Hopefully we can have a fair media that wont sabotage and rig things for the left’s benefit, then no one would be thinking this way. Think of the whole “tea bagging” crap, take the ball and go home I guess, cause its not about who won in the election, (win some lose some) but how it was won/lost.
Cardiganfox on April 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Yep. It’s really pretty too. They just finished I-10 out that way, and it’s really nice. Still fairly country, yet developed enough to have lots to do.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM
No it doesn’t.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Don’t forget that we have Chuck Norris.
obladioblada on April 17, 2009 at 9:47 PM
As conservatives from around the US flock to Texas, creating a real estate boom there, home prices in the US would evaporate, and since the US economy is built on a house of (credit)cards, so would the US economy. This would cause other nations to dump their US currency and a lot of that would go into the Texas dollar.
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Oh, and if this guy wants to play the freaking race card, how about the statistics for welfare recipients broken down by race: Race
————–
White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4
With Texas no longer providing federal entitlements, I am sure that lots of the recipients would have two choices: work or move to the New USA. Since blacks make up 11% of the Texas population but receive almost the same ratio of welfare as the whites, then I guess they would have a decision to make.
The whites who used to live off of Uncle Sam and refused to work would have to make that choice as well.
Hispanics, I’m not so worried about. I live amongst these people and work is something that they do out of pride and to provide for their families. Of course breaking everything down into race groups is stupid but I was proving the point that this idiot brought it up first; heck, he made it into a one paragraph reason why Texas would face hardships.
SO we lose all the free loaders and gain all of your fantastic conservatives across the nation. Nice trade in my book.
You f’cked up big time DC. You liberals have sucked the greatness out of this country. You might have to pay the price for that; losing Texas.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Yep! Named after the MKT (Missouri, Kansas and Texas Railway. We have a bridge across the lake where I live that is named the Katy Bridge because it was originally the railroad bridge.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:51 PM
>>>The nickname for the MKT was the “Katy”.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 9:52 PM
You like RRs too?!?!?! I LOVE Railroads!
Man, what I would give to be a steam locomotive operator.
Tim Burton on April 17, 2009 at 9:57 PM
This phukker seems to not know that we here in Texas don’t give a good G-d Damn what beta phucs like him think about us or Texas or his panties are wadded up.
We’ll do just fine, and I s’pect Mr. Farrell’l eventually want to come visit our beaches, or the casinos or wide open countryside, so he can take pictures of his candyass wearin’ a coca-cola cowboy hat.
One caution Mr. Farrell…
Texas=GUNS!!!
Nuff said.
44Magnum on April 17, 2009 at 9:57 PM
How do you know idiot?
I lived in both New Mexico and Texas. I can tell you that there are parts of Texas that do look like Mexico. That is not our fault; one of the main reasons the federal government exists is to protect us and our borders. That failed on that, which probably gives Texas the legal right to sue the United States for taking our taxes, in a lopsided fashion, and we get little back. Texas accounts for a lion’s share of the revenue that the US gets, yet we take so little of the government aid. We are number 2 in state size yet we are not even on the top ten of states getting the most federal aid.
So your comment is ludicrous and not based in fact.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Amen to that!
Come over anytime, door is always open. Bring your Kids, yours and ours can play together in the yard. If you need a cup of sugar, see the wife up at the house, if your man needs a tire changed or you need something at the store, no problem, we can settle up later. Glad to hear that new Texas Congress has based the new Texas dollar money on gold. Say you want some lemonade? Nice day today. Well, see you later, I’m off to the pistol range.
GunRunner on April 17, 2009 at 10:00 PM
If Texas secedes, can we maybe plant some forests there and build some mountains?
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
You have one affluent, over 18, male who would gladly leave massachusetts and relocate to the new country of Texas. I’d be skipping as I leave for my volunteer duty in their army & I certainly wouldn’t be paying more taxes than I am now under Coupe Deval Patrick.
Alden Pyle on April 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
A serious rebuttal article needs to be written. He talks about the brain-drain? Think of everyone that would pour in. Also, think about how much safer the rest of the states would be after Texas was finally free to finish the fence.
Form alliances with China and Russia? In your dreams. I bet this guy still wets the bed.
Johnson on April 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
carbon and Weight….
I used to have layovers there when I was with the airlines. The only thing I remember was sitting outside and this cockroach the size of a small bird came running out from under a bush and attacked me. I couldn’t kill it because I figured it was big enough I’d be charged with murder.
Other than that I loved it.
When Obama was elected I had the idea I was moving to Alaska or Texas.
I’m getting Texas fever….
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Yeah, the Republic’s least worry is an explosion of illegal immigration along their southern border.
Dusty on April 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Yes, I also took a three month hiatus from here; canceled my satellite and delved into genealogy just to get my mind off of totus.
You are correct; the media is almost equal to the liberals, vis-a-vis driving the wedge between conservatives and liberals. We were the ’silent majority’ and took this crap from Hollywood and Washington for so long that some of probably developed an inferiority complex.
It is funny how the liberals have been so stuck-up and have looked down on us as toothless rubes that love NASCAR just a little too much. It’s not that way at all. I used to live in Dallas and it is very diverse. The other major cities are pretty much the same. Except for Austin; that is a liberal stronghold.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM
With more corporate headquarters than any other state and right-to-work laws, the state is very business-friendly. Think all those companies would prefer to revert to the “friendliness” of their former NY homes?
obladioblada on April 17, 2009 at 10:06 PM
WOO HOO! I’m serious about this.
I hope the Texans can handle the influx of conservatives. The good thing is we won’t bleed the system. We will actually feed into it.
Even before the talk of seceding I had my sights on Texas.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM
If Texas secedes it won’t remain that way for long with all of the conservatives flocking to Texas to escape Baraxist Obamunism.
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Already have that covered.
Texas regions
obladioblada on April 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Texas isn’t going anywhere.
If you think otherwise, pull your head out of your arse and quit being a moron. Stop embarrassing the conservative movement.
packsoldier on April 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Piney woods to the east…Chisos and Davis mountains to the west. Well, the ‘mountains’ are pretty weedy, but I guess you can’t have everything. And no snow skiing, but plenty of that on water if you like.
Asher on April 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM
I have friends down there in the tech sector.
I wonder if they’ll sponsor me under H1-B.
Bob Owens on April 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Yeah, wouldn’t want liberals to start saying nasty things about us.
obladioblada on April 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM
You are in luck:
The Big Thicket
Texas Mountains
And for good measure:
Texas Coast
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Heh. You should come. My wife and I moved here three years ago from Florida, with our 2 year old. Best decision we’ve made was moving to Texas.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Where are you?
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Spring Texas. Actually, Klein, right next to Tomball.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 10:15 PM
I don’t know it that well. N.S. E or West?
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:16 PM
LOL
Don’t worry about the cockroaches.
Might want to google:
Texas Brown Recluse
Diamondback Rattlesnake
Water Moccasin
Coral Snake
and
Copperhead
I captured 7 copperheads under my back porch in about a 6 month period a few years back.
Click these links to see some of my photos of them.
Link 1
Texas is kind of the Australia of the US. We have over 100 species of snakes and four of those are venomous.
Link 2
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:18 PM
It looks great. I could still have a bit of Colorado.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Far Northwest Harris Co.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Exactly.
And did I mention that I never lock my doors?
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM
carbon, we have rattlers here too. That’s what guns are for.
I ain’t afraid a no stinkin snakes! I do hate spiders though.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Ha. See. It’s meant to be. I was born in Denver, my neighbor three doors down is from Denver, Cutler is gone and Kubiak is here!
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM
typical liberal – without massive government he can’t imagine people living a normal life
Defector01 on April 17, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Ok, I think Perry’s comment was dumb, but I’ll be damned if the liberals flocking out of Austin doesn’t momentarily tempt me toward his line of thinking. I for one would not miss seeing all of the Honda Elements and Volvos with their Obama stickers cruising down Mopac.
As for the rednecks ruining the economy here…um we’re one of the few states actually still doing pretty well. Does this idiot think we’d be better off with an Austrian muscle-head who has trouble pronouncing the name of his state?
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:27 PM
This guy don’t know us real well does he? As far as the army, last time I checked we had the largest and most well supplied and armed national guard in the country.
Mexico won’t mess with us, unlike the feds, we will shoot back. And the bankrupt USA won’t have the ability to do anything about it. Oh and Katy, forget moving to Katy, you will find Conroe much more appealing
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Kubiak…what a great and humble guy.
OK, I am going to look into this. My man just lost his job here so this may be the time.
I may be getting hold of carbon, Weight and Gun for tips so stay tuned..
;o)
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM
We are not that far from Northern New Mexico. Great skiing there and the far north looks exactly like parts of Colorado.
By the way, just to get a sense of how large Texas is.
Imagine the map of the United States. Imagine that you could flip Texas like a door with the hinges being at the northernmost point (The Panhandle). If you did that, Brownsville would almost reach into Canada. Now flip it southward with the hinges at Brownsville. The Panhandle would almost reach Guatemala. Flip it west, it would be in the Pacific Ocean, and flip it east, the Atlantic Ocean.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:29 PM
I like snakes and spiders but Brown Recluse are bad.
Roaches suck, though.
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Feel free to donate to my new PAC…
Today Texas, tomorrow Quebec!
Tzetzes on April 17, 2009 at 10:30 PM
The economy is still doing pretty well here.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:30 PM
I’d move there in a heartbeat, heck, I probably will after I finish college anyways. Good jobs down there.
Anyways, there would need to be professional football and baseball leagues formed. And an all Texas college football and basketball league, too.
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 10:31 PM
This is true, but her name isn’t Conroe.
; P
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:33 PM
That reminds me of another benefit. We could block all those yankee schools from recruiting our high school football players.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Do!
I will have you covered from DFW to Waco. I work in Dallas and live in Central Texas.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:34 PM
For her, we might just change the name of the town!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Corrected
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Wow. lots of Texans on here….
Why don’t you guys start your own blog. “A view from God’s Country”.
You could be a great service to patriots thinking of relocating….
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Where in central Texas carbon?
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Yah, Katy from Conroe just doesn’t hit the mark…
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Ha, yes, we will kick most of the lawyers out and all of ACORN.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:37 PM
We would but we wouldn’t want to cause the deep depression that AP would suffer at losing all those commenter’s.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM
I saw a brown recluse in my garage. I swear it spit at me. nasty suckers. Had to kill it.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM
I’ll be hiding, since I’m a lawyer too.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Is there any parts of Texas without spiders or snakes??? We don’t really have those in Minnesota.
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM
What? And secede from HotAir? Never.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 10:39 PM
I’ve lived west, north, central and now east. Have not found that spot yet.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM
It is an imaginary boundary that would probably start in Austin, or North Austin and move north until Waxahachie. E-W it would probably be from Corsicana in the East all the way to Meridian to the West. The major towns: Austin, Austin Suburban areas, Temple, Killeen (near Fort Hood, the largest army base is in the nation IIRC) Belton, Waco, Hillsboro, Cleburne.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:41 PM
HA could start up a new ROOM. Call it the Texas Green Horn Room.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Katy,
Without an EPA we can wipe out the Brown spider thing’s. Think of the possibilites!
GunRunner on April 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM
That would be nice.
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM
We would but we wouldn’t want to cause the deep depression that AP would suffer at losing all those commenter’s.conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM
I know, if I learned one thing about all this secession talk it is that about 95% of the comments are pro-Texas.
Correction: all liberal lawyers must go. Of course, with the Republic of Texas TORT reform, most of the bad lawyers would move to the New USA anyway.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:44 PM
I lived in a tiny little area known as Hoover’s Valley right by Ink’s lake state park for about 15 years. Moved over here about 6 years ago when an outfit made me an offer I could not refuse. East Texas is nice but I sure do miss the hill country!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Shi- Didn’t mean to strike.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Are there spiders and snakes in the cities and suburbs?
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Honest to God. Think of the possibilities is right. A country with American values and almost no Washington stranglehold of regulations!
Heaven on earth.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM
How about the Texas Ranger Room?
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Perfect!!!!!!!!!
I love that…
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:47 PM
The longest stay on death row would be six years. No federal appeals for 20 years. Everybody would be CCW and everybody would be polite.
Blake on April 17, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Pretty much, get a good outside cat, best thing.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Transplanted Yankee Texan here for 25 yrs.
Driving down the 610 feeder road the other day behind a pickup truck with a personalized out of state plate, I forget what state (I’m thinking Indiana) or what the plate said but I do remember what the bumper sticker said:
“You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas.” Davy Crockett
Heh
atxcowgirl on April 17, 2009 at 10:47 PM
I doubt it. Water moccasins in East Texas and all up and down the coast. Rattlesnakes central and west. Copperheads also. And I hope to hell I don’t run into a coral snake. As for spiders, just brushed one out my door…he was kinda cute.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Yeah. Saw two yesterday. They were small with red, yellow, and black bands. So nothing to worry about.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 10:49 PM
..
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Texas would be buying America’s debt within 6 months.
Let’s roll…
artist on April 17, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Actually, it is very rare for venomous snakes to be found in the center of the Blackland Prairie. I live in a very unique county, geographically speaking, where three major regions converge. The Blackland Prairie has only native trees at creeks and rivers and only those that were planted. The soil is rich, fertile black gumbo clay that is perfect for agriculture. Dallas is within the Blackland Prairie. Then there is the Grand Prairie that is rolling hills and chalky clays to limestone rock and juniper, cedar trees. There is a thin finger of the Cross Timbers that is about six miles wide; this is where I live. It is reddish soil that harbors a boatload of Post Oak trees.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM
My favorite coffee cup has that same quote on it.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM
There ya go. And I work for Abbott, so I’m safe.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Sounds beautiful. All I saw was the city on layovers. I did like San Antonio. How is that?
katy on April 17, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Killed a coral snake in the backyard last week.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:51 PM
I also like the one: “American by Birth. Texan by the grace of God.”
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Crap. I misread that to ask Where IS central Texas.
Sorry.
I live near Hillsboro on Lake Whitney.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM
True, the Hill Country is the most beautiful part of Texas, IMHO.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Ok, that’s a good reason to load my new shotgun.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:54 PM
Ha, I thought wow, that is one big assed spread!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:55 PM
I’ll be damned if I don’t get a ticket everytime I drive through Hillsboro.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Lots of wildlife. 10 years in Florida prepared me for SE Texas, but my poor Ohio wife, just doesn’t understand why fire ants are EVERYWHERE.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 10:55 PM
True! As Ron White said: Hell, in my state if there is one or more witnesses to a capital crime than that criminal gets moved up to get executed. Some states don’t have the death penalty but in Texas we have an express lane.
Where I live, people wave when you pass them driving on the highway.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Didn’t Tanya Tucker settle this debate already in a song?
Red State State of Mind on April 17, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Lol WoG! Red on yellow could kill a fellow, red on black, you are alright Jack!
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Well damn, if there are no federal appeals, I’ll be out of a job.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:58 PM
That make two of us! I can deal with the snakes and such, but them dadgum fire ants are the real scourge of Texas.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:58 PM
“I wanna go home with the armadillo…gooood country music from Amarillo and Abilene….the frendliest people and the prettiest women you ever seen…”
Jerry Jeff Walker
Guy Clark
Gruen Hall..1978
I was there
JJKRN on April 17, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Fire ants rank a close second to Al Qaeda.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Lucky dog!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:00 PM
He is awesome! Is it true that he became paralyzed by getting crushed by a tree while jogging?
He’s a great man.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Bob Wills is still the KING
JJKRN on April 17, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Why do all the good conservatives have to be down in Texas. I love Texas, but I don’t think I could abandon Minnesota with its hockey and snakelessness/spiderlessness.
Maybe we could just carve out a central corridor that extends from Texas to Minnesota. From Brownsville to Duluth.
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 11:00 PM
We actually have all four where I live and I have encountered them all. When I was young, I lifted up an empty, plastic child’s swimming poll and found a coral snake. Very beautiful.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Don’t tell Obama that! We’ll have to stop using Amdro!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM
True Dat!!!!!!!!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Yep, very true. A total freak accident. Very nice guy and a good AG, better than Cornyn. I thought he might make a run at KBH’s senate seat but looks like he’s going for Lt. Guv.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Yep. It’s a bad day when you unknowingly stand in a pile. Soars for days.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Katy, I had the pleasure of living there for the summer of ‘86. Such a beautiful city. I really liked it there. The Riverwalk is super cool.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Ha. No doubt.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:03 PM
haha yes, and we’ll have to give them Miranda rights and appropriate meals
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Dude!
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Sea World’s there too. And don’t tell anyone else, but it’s better than the Orlando one.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:05 PM
It’s great. I grew up here. Lived in Big D for 8 years but got tired of paying high rent and found a place in the country. My country is as large as Dallas Co. but only has a population of around 35K. Of course that could change quickly when our conservative friends storm us.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Boy you are NOT kidding. The first thing that pops into your mind when you feel those first few bites, look down and their all over your legs is “there goes my week.”
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:06 PM
My
countrycounty is as large as Dallas Co….Damn dyslexia.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:06 PM
Yep, and watch out in the small towns of Milford and Italy just outside of Waxahachie on I-35.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:07 PM
What’s the best area to go to get away from the humidity and close to the mountains/
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Fire ants are from Satan himself. I have to spread ant killer every year.
GoodBoy on April 17, 2009 at 11:10 PM
True. The thing I hate most about those fire ants is that they are the biggest reason the Texas Horned (Horny) Toad is near extinction. I used to see them everywhere when I was a little boy. I haven’t seen one since the mid-seventies.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Don’t worry. Did you see my “soars” instead of “sores”? It’s Friday, you’re allowed. Besides, MB4 has a quote for mistakes like that, so it’s cool.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:11 PM
What mountains? lol
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:11 PM
ok… horney toads, fire ants, snakes, spiders…. anything else I should know?
;o(
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Dude! Dallas Stars. Used to be the North Stars.
Also, don’t sweat the snakes. They rarely bite. The tornadoes are also over hyped.
Bonus: We sometimes have days of 70 degrees or more from December to February. No more below zero.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Ha, well stay away from east Texas on the humidity thing. Far west Texas is dry and close to mountains, Rough ones in the Big Bend/Ft Davis area, or jump over to New Mexico for the pine covered variety.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM
You might need some retraining but there will be plenty of legal work available—helping refugees from America gain Texan work permits and citizenship.
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM
I think a few residents from Jarrell might disagree with you.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:15 PM
We’ve lost firefly’s and June Bugs too. Haven’t seen one in years. When I was a kid, they were everywhere. We’d turn on the porch light at night just so the June Bugs would collect on the screen door and we’d throw them on my sister.
GoodBoy on April 17, 2009 at 11:15 PM
damn illegals!
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Man I wish we had the North Stars back… depressed… The Wild aren’t half as cool as the North Stars.
We love hockey up here like you guys love football.
I could get away from the could though
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I like the desert. Lubbuck maybe?
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Dude! I miss those guys! I grew up in Midland in the 60’s, at any one time I could go out in my back yard and catch 15 or 20.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Ashamed to say that I have never been there.
Well we did leave out Bull Nettles.
Oh, and Snipes.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Any cities that look like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Skyline-Duluth-20060330.jpg
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM
It may never happen but it sure is fun to think about!
Why do I get the feeling I’m being monitored by Obama’s DHS.
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM
I don’t think Texas will ever let Mike Modano leave. He’ll have to escape.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM
You should see the bluebonnet fields. And there is nothing like being at Minute Maid park, listening to thousands of fans sing Deep in the Heart of Texas in the seventh inning stretch. The little critters are a small payoff for the good stuff here.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:19 PM
After seeing what the one did to downtown Fort Worth a few years ago and then seeing cars floating one by one out of our parking lot at work after a 20 minute flash flood… I’m thinkin not.
GoodBoy on April 17, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Lubbock is mostly plowed fields and dust. Spent 5 years there going to school. Hated it. If you want desert, go a little further south.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Nah, you’ll get bored with Lubbock. Tell you what, try Muleshoe. Can’t get more Texas (or desert) than that.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I want to go with you if you take Katy snipe hunting..
GoodBoy on April 17, 2009 at 11:21 PM
We gonna take Katy on a snipe hunt when she gets down here?
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:21 PM
True. I was living in Temple when that one hit. Two days afterward I drove down there and was hanging out with the press when the State Troopers made the announcement that the press were going to be allowed behind the tape and get to walk through ground zero. I blended right in and had my camera. You would not believe the destruction of that F5. It literally sucked asphalt from the roads and left many houses with only a concrete slab. It even sucked up the carpeting and padding. There was a large stock tank in the path and it displaced about 70% of the water. I took tons of pictures and was really traumatized by what I saw that day.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM
That reminds me of another benefit. We could block all those yankee schools from recruiting our high school football players.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 10:33 PM
dfwaggie on April 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Heh.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM
nice try guys… I was taken on a snipe hunt when I was young and stupid…
pfffft
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Dang
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:24 PM
El Paso. The Franklin Mountains are there and it is the southern boundary of the Rockies. I like El Paso; I used to date a girl from there. I also lived in Las Cruces, NM for four years; very close to there. I love that country. Not many places that I don’t like in Texas; my least favorite is probably Houston. That is due to the traffic, humidity and lack of zoning. ha
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:24 PM
snipe hunt.
HA! still LOL!!!
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Back in High School, we took an exchange student from Mexico Snipe hunting.. in a cemetery. She wasn’t real enthused about it. One of our teachers took us.
GoodBoy on April 17, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Yep, I was living in Dallas at the time, so I never saw the devastation first hand. But the account of that tornado, starting as a weak F1 and just building and building…well I’m glued to the set whenever a documentary about it is shown, like on the Weather Channel. I bet it was visible from Temple.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM
It wouldn’t look like anything for long. It might look like Iraq for a couple of months until the insurrection is put down.
RightOFLeft on April 17, 2009 at 11:27 PM
huh?
Nelsen on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Wouldn’t it be awesome? I think I drive the only Volvo in Austin with a McCain sticker.
Which is about to be replaced, I just don’t know what with yet. Maybe my vintage Reagan sticker.
Missy on April 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM
And you’re still alive? wow.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Yup, I think that’s it. Mountains and desert.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Texas is not likely to secede anytime soon. But if they do I might move there.
Hawthorne on April 17, 2009 at 11:32 PM
My thoughts exactly, I bet she gets lots of one finger salutes on Mopac
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:33 PM
GoodBoy, where are you located? I get tons of fireflies (lightning bugs) and June Bugs.
Because I have the same feeling too!
Oh well, I’m in Texas. I feel safer than I would if I were in Detroit right now.
Dude! Me too. TTU from 1985 to 1990. Go Red Raiders!
Absolutely. Are you guys current with your Snipe hunting license? Just three more months til the season opens. I can hardly wait!
Darn. The jig is up.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Heh. The first 20 or so comments dealt with the article, the other 170 have been about how great Texas is. AP must be shaking his head.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Cross over into Juarez if you’re feeling adventurous…or if just miss all the old Iraq war coverage.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Is that what they sound like? I hear they’re vicious!
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 11:35 PM
If that Non-Texans for Texas Secession is real, I’ll send ‘em a c-note.
benny shakar on April 17, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Alright!!!! class of 82
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:36 PM
You know it’s degenerated into a Texas thread when girls are getting hit on
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Ha, yeah he probably saw the number of comments and thought wow, I need to make a regular thread out of this, until he read the comments!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Actually, knock wood, I haven’t seen a single visible hostile reaction, though I’m always expecting them. There’s been a couple of times when I’ve wondered if someone isn’t letting me into the next lane b/c of the sticker. But that’s about it. Of course I’m sure they’re cursing me from inside the car.
Missy on April 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Was supposed to include a (j/k) tag…
FloatingRock on April 17, 2009 at 11:41 PM
If it’s just a McCain sticker, you’re probably safe. If it says McCain/Palin, carry a firearm.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Well it’s late, and I’m going to bed. Night guys and gals. I leave with this.
Weight of Glory on April 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Well, we saw the one that hit Belton Lake but didn’t see the one at Jarrell.
I drove down there a couple of years ago and took some pictures. It was really surreal seeing it developed again.
No, I didn’t notice!
Ha, Mark Twain, I’m sure…or is it Shania Twain?
Heh. I have a couple of those myself. Then again, I also have some Kennedy/Johnson vintage stickers as well.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Wanna drive em nuts Missy? Find a Bush/Cheney sticker! That will get you some salutes.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
He should know better, we Texans are proud of our state!
atxcowgirl on April 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Night Weight, it’s been fun!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Greeting from the Franklin Mountains!
Well, the Guadalupes are real mountains, and we have plenty of desert out here.
By the way. I just drove down Paisano street, right on the border with the poorest colonia in Juarez – Anapra, and the border fence is finished there on about 3 mile stretch. It is pretty amazing, lots of spotlights and you can see through it, like a tightly woven chain link.
La migra (the Border Patrol) had a number of trucks parked there in the gaps.
Fort Bliss is such a major employer here, that I don’t think that far West Texas would vote for secession.
TexasJew on April 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Obviously if the Republic of Texas turned into a fascist neocon state like he says, I would want no part. I think that’s a classic case of projection of what he would want to happen rather than a realistic scenario.
The Dean on April 17, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Nah, you’ll get bored with Lubbock. Tell you what, try Muleshoe. Can’t get more Texas (or desert) than that.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM
From where I live and have lived in Texas, Muleshoe is a freaking swamp.
TexasJew on April 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM
I don’t think most Texans would vote for it either (me included). It’s just that we like knowing we can!!
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Bingo!
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM
night weight, thanks for the Texas pitch.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Benny???? You confuse me. : )
Fat Dawgs! Amirite?
I lived on 6th Street near MOPAC during the summer of 1991. (I know, I have lived everywhere.) Of course, I considered myself a liberal then; young age can do that to a fella along with college indoctrination.
Goodnight! Enjoyed this thread.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM
It’s definitely not a practical idea, but if this administration gets any worse, maybe we could demand that THEY secede from the rest of us.
TexasJew on April 17, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Exactly! That is hope that we can believe in.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:51 PM
ok this is now a 219 comment thread…I bet AP looks at this and says WTF?? Boy is he gonna be disappointed.
Erich66 on April 17, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Yep, and I really like AP but I bet this one backfired to his original intent.
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Guns Up!! 1994-1999
anuts on April 17, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Eh, he’s a New Yawker
atxcowgirl on April 17, 2009 at 11:56 PM
No kidding. Mine just says McCain. It’s smallish and black, so it blends in with the bumper. I put it on before Palin got the nod.
Believe it or not, I park next to a woman at work who has what must be the only other McCain sticker on the UT campus. She just peeled it off to reveal a Bush04 sticker underneath. Love it!
I do have a Cheney black velvet painting in my house that draws a few odd looks, though.
6th and MoPAC, nice neighborhood! I was a lib just out of college in 1991 too. Thank goodness things change!
Missy on April 17, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Wow, maybe AP should give us a Texas Tech thread.
conservnut on April 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM
I don’t think so… If you read through the thread it’s actually what the article should have been.
katy on April 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Exactly….
Missy on April 17, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Well, I am giving it up and going to bed too folks, I had fun ya’ll.
conservnut on April 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Midland-Odessa. Pretty much desert, and just a few hours from the Big Bend.
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM
Good point. Except now I forgot what the article was in the first place.
Erich66 on April 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM
The author never accounted for the resistance movement inside the remaining states. I would be happy to spirit supplies over the border to Texans in their bid to remain autonomous.
Bishop on April 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM
night conservnut!
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:03 AM
ps conservnut. don’t let the bed bugs (I suppose you have those in texas too) bite.
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Another Texan?
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Austin does, and it is probably just as liberal as Duluth…
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Yep – Sugar Land, just down the road from Katy.
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I didn’t even read it.
I only read about half of the quoted portion.
FloatingRock on April 18, 2009 at 12:07 AM
carbon_footprint on April 17, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Just an old teasip here, but I lived in the Odessa/Midland/Lubbock golden triangle for many years.
My wife is an SMU grad, so we’re pretty eclectic.
As ar as the earlier references to coral snakes,
having had the distinct pleasure of stepping on quite a few scorpions (OUCH!) and having dodged a large number of grouchy rattlesnakes, I consider myself rather lucky.
The scariest looking critters out here are Vinegaroons, which look like huge black scorpions, but they are harmless, just squirting vinegar when you tick them off. They are good friends, since they love to snack on scorpions.
TexasJew on April 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Same here – I saw the headline, and started to smile.
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM
I’m going to get a map so I have a better idea of Texas. I love dry, desert with mountains. Want a fairly big cirt near by but not too big.
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:09 AM
cirt=city
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:10 AM
My question is: If Texas secedes, will Obama apologize?
Or does he only apologize for fictional grievances?
FloatingRock on April 18, 2009 at 12:12 AM
You could take a look at Kerrville, which is an hour west of San Antonio, and in the fringe of the hill country. I have some land in Comal County, which is north of SA, but by the time I’m ready to retire, it will be a suburb. SA and Austin are growing together – west of SA is growing more slowly.
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Katy your only choice is El Paso then b/c we’re limited on mountains. But the hill country is great; put a tack in, oh, Fredericksburg…both Austin and SA are nearby.
Erich66 on April 18, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Since he only apologizes to foreignors, it would depend on how foreign he thinks we are.
Erich66 on April 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Isn’t the Austin area pretty liberal?
I have had my fill of liberal. Between Denver and Boulder I’m over it here. Colorado use to be a fairly conservative state but not anymore.
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
One more comment,
Midland, Katy. A good medium sized town, white collar mostly. And yes, we do have bedbugs. But my biggest challenge is getting the collie to move over and give me some covers.
Good night all, I really mean it this time.
conservnut on April 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
I’m going to look into El Paso.
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Guns up!!
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Katy I live in Austin and yes it is. But the good thing is that it’s surrounded by right-wing extremists on all sides, and sometimes they creep in.
Erich66 on April 18, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Thanks nut!
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:19 AM
I’m going to get a map so I have a better idea of Texas. I love dry, desert with mountains. Want a fairly big cirt near by but not too big.
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:09 AM
I live in the only mountainous part of Texas – the transPecos area. El Paso is bisected by a spine of dry desert mountains (the 7200′ Franklin Mountains) and lies just south of New Mexico’s very large mountains. Las Cruces is right up the road and has the beautiful Organ Mountains. West of that is Silver City and the Gila is up the road from there.
For skiing, we are just south of Ruidoso (12,000′ Sierra Blanca) and you can see Sierra Blanca from El Paso.
Look at the Sacramento Mountains – in particular, Cloudcroft, which is at 10,000′ and is straight up the mountain from Alamogordo and White Sands.
But – sad to say – that not Texas, but it almost is!
Living here in El Paso, we really have the best of all worlds.
TexasJew on April 18, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Is it moving left or moving right? Are the R/W extremists overtaking the left in Austin?
I seriously can’t take the idiosy anymore…
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Me too. I think we all did. I didn’t read it, didn’t have to. The snippet posted told me all I needed to know. I think Mr Farrell under-estimates the Texas independent spirit. Even though I wasn’t born here, I got here as fast as I could.
Remember the Alamo!!
atxcowgirl on April 18, 2009 at 12:22 AM
El Paso sounds great. I love the high desert type terrain. What the pop. there?
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM
The left is fighting tooth and nail to hang on to what little they have left. They are holdovers from when the state was yellow dog dem. Time has passed them by.
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Apologize to whom? Texas or the rest of the USSA?
atxcowgirl on April 18, 2009 at 12:29 AM
Thanks to all the Texans tonight! I really appreciate the insight and info.
Good thread. I like Texas more and more…cept for the bugs…
Night y’all…….
just practicing up for my new dialect…
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Austin as moved a little to the right b/c the business community has really grown. But in the center of town, you can’t walk five steps without seeing an Obama sticker. And Four years ago it was Howard Dean stickers, followed by the reluctant switchover to the Kerry/Edwards ones. Things are not as bad in suburbs though.
Erich66 on April 18, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Katy,
My two cents. Lived in Texas my whole life. 75% of that in Dallas. For your wants:
Dallas-for the lack of critters you want to avoid. Good job market across the board (sans real estate). Great restaurants. Bad for humidity in the summer, however.
Panhandle/West Texas-Hardly any humidity at all. Cool nights. Snow during the winters.
Austin/San Antonio/Houston-see Dallas above
For climate and terrain it seems staying west would be your best bet.
anuts on April 18, 2009 at 12:32 AM
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM
El Paso is around 650,000 people and growing.
Las Cruces is the fastest-growing town in New Mexico and has around 80,000 people.
It is a culture shock out here, for sure (much more in El Paso than Las Cruces). Very Hispanic, but peaceful and with very little violent crime. That seems strange to say, with Juarez 500 yards from my house, but that is true. There is a real decency in the people here.
Even the Anglos out here are bilingual. My little 9 year-old blond daughter speaks fluent Spanish. She is a fifth generation El Pasoan – all Jewish, by the way. Her great-great grandfather came out here on a stagecoach in 1875.
Historically, Juarez (originally El Paso del Norte, or, “Old El Paso”) has always been the larger of the two cities.
Juarez is Mexico’s third of fourth largest city,at 1.6 million people.
TexasJew on April 18, 2009 at 12:33 AM
Good rule of thumb for that would be: as the radius gets further away from downtown, so will the idiocy.
anuts on April 18, 2009 at 12:36 AM
You Yankees are welcome but just remember that in Texas the boss has the right to fire your a** down here. All that collectivism crap stays north of the Red River.
Limerick on April 18, 2009 at 12:36 AM
I don’t think he’s going to apologize to anybody in the USSA, he considers us supplicated.
FloatingRock on April 18, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Texas could trade their oil for protection. It would be a win-win for them.
I’ve never been to TX except DFW airport. Which area is the best place to live?
Oink on April 18, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Depends on your needs/wants. Chances are, however, there’s a spot for you. Pretty versatile place.
anuts on April 18, 2009 at 12:53 AM
Good places (IMHO):
San Antonio
Fort Worth
Anywhere Rural
Dallas and Suburbs
El Paso
Tyler
Lubbock
Kerrville
Fredericksburg
Waco
Corpus Christi
Galveston
Midland
Not Great:
Houston
Odessa
The Valley
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM
Thanks to all the commenters on this thread. Most of the time I get tired or bored after the first dozen or so and leave. This time I read every one of the 268 comments so far. Guess where I was born and raised and live.
WildBillK on April 18, 2009 at 1:26 AM
Only 1/3 of all companies operating in Texas are incorporated here. You will have problems with companies like Lockheed, Textron, Walmart and Halliburton. But the biggest problem is what the writer pointed out, “There are so many minorities in Texas, in fact, that put all together they make up the majority.”
SocratesShadow on April 18, 2009 at 1:30 AM
I’ve been reading through this thread and just enjoying it all. Lived in Clear Lake area for three years, south of Houston and loved it. Took one year to get used to the heat and humidity, but then it was wonderful. And the folks were the best! Texas has a way of growing on you. Felt like I was a Texan after three years (although everyone knew I was a yankee by birth). And when I get back to Texas even the ‘y’all’ starts coming back into my vernacular. (But one thing I wouldn’t miss is the Gulf Freeway!) Enjoyed the Texas beaches (by the way, how’s Galveston doing since the hurricane?), driving on the beach (prohibited in Yankee Country), the bluebonnets and wildflowers planted in the median strips, the great barbecue — the best was at little run down places– all the great things to do. But mostly the folks who love one another and their country, but mostly God and their state. I’ve never known what the state flag looks like in most states I’ve lived in, but everyone knows the lone star flag.
But what is even more fun then thinking about getting back to Texas is thinking about getting back to Texas independent of the Feds. Imagine the possibilities. The guy who wrote the original article, has no clue of how wonderful it could be.
Christian Conservative on April 18, 2009 at 1:31 AM
This is a lie. Texas is paying pennies more than it receives back. Granted Texas is one of few exceptions in the southern bumfuck. Most other “conservative” states in the south receive much more from the feds than they give. The biggest donors are the blue states: California, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey etc.
radiofreevillage on April 18, 2009 at 1:34 AM
This is a lie. Texas is paying pennies more than it receives back. Granted Texas is one of few exceptions in the southern bumf*ck. Most other “conservative” states in the south receive much more from the feds than they give. The biggest donors are the blue states: California, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey etc.
radiofreevillage on April 18, 2009 at 1:35 AM
Yeah, because their ain’t any Texans in the army now. Oh and Texas doesn’t have any National Guard posts or military bases, oh and no oil! Can’t run a modern country without oil! And I’m sure that China or Russia are going to be the first nations that Texans look towards for help too.
Tell you one thing though. If Texas does become a Republic again I’m packing up the family and heading south- king sized spiders or no.
Browncoatone on April 18, 2009 at 1:41 AM
When WaPo/HuffPo wrote lengthy pieces about how awesome a Vermont secession would be in 2007, it was an AWESOME idea because we were barely surviving under the blood stained and oily hammer of Emperor Chaneybushitler.
However, in 2009, the mere hint of the fact that a small minority of Texans wrongly believe that a Texas secession would cure the state’s problems is obviously the mad raving of stupid racist rednecks!
ScottMcC on April 18, 2009 at 1:54 AM
You should consider that libs only give other people’s money through government. Conservatives and most Texans give out of their own pockets to charities and churches much more than the blue-staters. So I believe without the burden of big government, Texans would do just fine thank you.
Christian Conservative on April 18, 2009 at 1:56 AM
Illinois?
Just kidding.
Where in Texas?
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:06 AM
Thanks guys for the conversation. Best thread I’ve read on HA in a long time. Been in Texas all my life but never get tired of hearing Texans talk about her. Pisses me off to hear Yankees and other outsiders put her down. She’s a special place with special people.
maxine on April 18, 2009 at 2:09 AM
Technically, that is correct. However, don’t assume that large percentages of the blacks, Hispanics and others are automatically diametrically opposed to whites based on race. I know many blacks and Hispanics that have more in common with conservatives than liberals. We have almost been brainwashed to believe what the liberal politicians and main stream media have been pounding into our ears and heads. The Hispanics actually share more values with conservatives than they do with liberals. Religion, Pride, Work ethic and Family just to name a few. I work in a predominately Hispanic area and interact with Hispanics on a daily basis; some of them are even illegals. I have to admit that, as a white man, I am often more comfortable with them than I am with my own race.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:11 AM
That is not a lie. I have lived here for 44 years and I think that I might know better than you do. Texas accounted for 70% of the new jobs in the United States last year. We do not have an income tax and our infrastructure is the best in the country, bar none. I appreciate your kind words about my state but you are very wrong. Texas is independent minded and the people tend to be very proud of the fact that they do things on their own. New York, California and Massachusetts? Those are liberal bastions of taxes; heavy tax burdens and a plethora of liberal government policies that cripple the citizens. The Big Dig, alone, in Massachusetts is the most expensive boondoggle in American history. Federal tax dollars were thrown into that deep abyss and still it came in 2x the original budget and many years over the deadline. California, for instance, received $75 million in Porkulus for at a very necessary project. That money is going to provide exactly 3 miles of highway. What are they painting the yellow stripes with? 24K gold leaf?
Respectfully, just because you assert something does not make it so. I live here.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:20 AM
California $313,998,874,000
New York $244,672,914,000
3 Texas $225,390,904,000
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:32 AM
California $313,998,874,000
New York $244,672,914,000
Texas $225,390,904,000
Okay, radiovillage, I was wrong.
But so were you.
CA and NY pay more but MA and NJ pay less.
Truce.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:34 AM
S/B radiofreevillage
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:34 AM
Do you really think that, or is it just a bit of wool-gathering? Realistically, it would be a complete nightmare for everybody, Texan and non-Texan. I’m sure Texas is a wonderful place to live, but it’s not going to win a war against the world’s most powerful military. The good people of Texas would suffer horribly. It makes me sick just thinking about it. Nightly bombing raids, food shortages, the shelling of American cities — a war fought on American soil against Americans. Osama Bin Laden couldn’t dream up a more horrifying punishment on the American people.
I’m probably just taking this too seriously, but it really would be such a disaster that neither Texas or the rest of the United States could ever recover. However badly we might suffer from Obama’s reckless spending, it can’t compare to the devastation secession would cause.
RightOFLeft on April 18, 2009 at 2:34 AM
Don’t think for a second that liberals would not gleefully commit mass murder over this.
Did everybody here read 1984? It’s not enough that you merely obey Big Brother; you must LOVE big Brother.
In the history of this world, far more people have been killed out of love than out of hate.
logis on April 18, 2009 at 2:45 AM
I truly believe that you are correct. The Civil War is our only example and the fallout was horrendous. Out of a population of 31.2 million, over 600,000 or 19% of American men were killed. Some battles had as much as 30% casualties. When the war began, men on both sides were inspired and ready to fight. Toward the end, the Confederate army was excoriated. Many were hungry and did not have shoes or ammo. Teems of soldiers on both sides deserted every day. The South went from a rich society to a dirt poor society in 1/2 a decade. Most states in the South have not even recovered over 144 years later.
The fact is, we do not want another civil war. The USA must be united. All this secession talk is a great fantasy but at the end of the day, we all know that America is the best country ever to grace the surface of the earth.
Perry was only sending a message to Obama, IMHO. He was letting him know that he, indeed, would find a ceiling to his socialistic policies that he seems so hell-bent and willing to slam down our throats. In the end, Rick Perry, as much as I dislike him, may end up being the man who saves the country. Obama will back off because he is a wimp. He may strive to be like Lincoln, but he does not have the courage, class or character of the man. Our country will survive this Alinsky student. We will prevail through the next two election cycles and reverse his destruction. Sadly, Obama is etched in stone as the first African-American president. This was a political and public relations ploy that put him in the White House. But his first and only term will probably deter the country from elected a black president for the next 50 years. And that is a crying shame.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:48 AM
Do you live in the U.S.? Have you ever seen Texas?
Mommypundit on April 18, 2009 at 2:51 AM
S/B electing
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:51 AM
Yeah, like Texas would need a draft to raise a million troops…
What a dope.
Earth to Farrel: there’s a lot of folks who actually serve under arms to defend their country voluntarily! As a matter of fact, an awful lot of them do in THIS country…come to think of it, an awful lot of those folks come from Texas to begin with.
See, there’s two types of people in this world: people who live secure in their freedoms without a thought or even a care as to how those freedoms are maintained and defended, and the people who PROVIDE THE PROTECTION OF THOSE FREEDOMS by volunteering their time to do so and at the risk of their very lives. Janet Nepolatano refers to this second group of people as potential domestic terrorists. Those of us without our heads firmly impacted in the walls of our rectal vaults simply refer to them/ourselves as veterans.
It’s apparent that Farrell is of the former group rather than the latter.
SHOCKA
300 comments! Do you think AP is noticing that Texas may be competition for Palin or Meghan threads?
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 3:57 AM
lol I was just thinking that…Palin, Meghan, atheism, and now Texas…I bet he is
Erich66 on April 18, 2009 at 3:59 AM
Born and raised in San Antonio. Joined Army and lived mostly in the Far East, but also lived in Germany and Italy. Retired at Ft. Hood and moved to a little town about 30 miles west of Ft. Hood named Lampasas. Nice quiet central Texas town. Still love San Antonio though.
WildBillK on April 18, 2009 at 4:24 AM
If anyone starts attacking Texas.. people will come out of the woodwork to defend her. There will be no shortage.
GoodBoy on April 18, 2009 at 5:27 AM
Who’s to say Mexico would do the gobbling. Mexico is a failed state. Some of the northen states of Mexio might decide to seceed from Mexico and join a “Republic of Texas”, along with any other US states that become targets of the gov’t. Like Louisiana. If that state leaves and joins a Texas Republic, then the US loses it’s biggest Gulf port and control of the Mississippi River. Plus that opens up the Gulf for Texan drilling. It’s there, they just have to drill it up. No a Republic of Texas would survive, and thrive.
Don Carne on April 18, 2009 at 6:49 AM
No problem there. Texans, maybe not the elites in Austin, look highly on the military.
Not so. There wouldn’t have to be a draft, Texans love Texas. I know, I lived there for 3 years…hell, even I love Texas. Mexico wouldn’t screw with Texas. Millions of gun loving bitter clingers, remember?
Clearly you do not understand Texas. Mexico would leave Texas alone knowing they no longer had the pantie waisted federal govt restraining Texas from defending itself.
The only people who would launch a resistance movement would be the Liberals living in Austin. Texans would simply invite them to move to Chicago so they could experience some of that good old Hope and Change in the city who’s violent death rate for July of 08 was higher than the entire country of Iraq.
RobertInLexington on April 18, 2009 at 6:54 AM
Irritated that our states didn’t follow the Texan lead. I think there would be a mass exodus of freedom loving American’s from northern states to escape to Texas.
RobertInLexington on April 18, 2009 at 6:59 AM
I’m packing my bags, transferring my bank accounts and cleaning my guns. I’ll be there on Thursday! Oh, happy day!
FalseProfit on April 18, 2009 at 7:52 AM
What would it look like?
Racist of course.
angryed on April 18, 2009 at 7:56 AM
Speaking of driving…I have received 3 speeding tickets in my life. All 3 in Texas, even though I’ve never lived in TX. All that empty land in W. Texas makes for fast driving and easy prey for the radar gun.
But the very cool thing TX has is you can pay 150% of the fine, plead no contest (no lo contendre) and if you are a good boy for the next 90 days insurance doesn’t find out.
angryed on April 18, 2009 at 8:04 AM
I’m not sure I want to know.
blatantblue on April 18, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Wow. This thread really put J A Farrell’s article to shame.
If you didn’t know much about Texas before last night… you do now…
Patriots!
Don’t mess with Texas!
katy on April 18, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Anybody who wants to envision a secession of a state, read this book.
fossten on April 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM
I don’t know exactly what it would turn out like, but it would look AWESOME.
Also, don’t forget, we kicked Mexico’s ass once before, we’ll do it again.
Kai on April 18, 2009 at 10:04 AM
You forgot: Enis and Dumas. hehe
bitsy on April 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM
RAAAACIST!!!1123
You people need to come up with a new line.
bitsy on April 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Crap…
Nelsen on April 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
One more point that I thought of when I gave up on this thread and went to bed last night.
While we natives love our state (8th generation here) our transplants are one of our greatest assets. Once they are here for a decade or so they love this state more than anyone else. I work with a bunch of guys from Minnesota who moved here about 15 years ago. They are rabid lovers of everything Texas. They have morphed over the years as their palates have toughened up from the bland chow they ate as children in the great white north. And their attitudes have toughened as well.
The real funny thing is listening to them talk. They still sound funny to us but they sound funny to other Minnesotans as well. The accent gets a bit of a drawl and the verbiage changes into a mix of both cultures.
Yeah, you betcha, Ya’ll!
Cracks me up all the time.
conservnut on April 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM
What? Prejudiced against Anglos? I’m quite comfortable living in Texas as a white minority, I don’t see much bigotry against me. My son’s friends do tell him white jokes, but he hasn’t filed any harassment complaints.
Apparently you missed this part of last nite’s thread:
obladioblada on April 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Benny has never been out of his Aunt Millie’s attic…so little chance he really knows Texas.
Jamson64 on April 18, 2009 at 11:19 AM
I spent 5 years in Texas when I was younger, and I absolutely love Texas and Texans. It’s a special place with special people.
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Interesting that you say that because I tell all the new comers that there is a 5 year rule in Texas, once you pass that 5 year milestone, Texas is in your blood and there will be no getting it out!
Texas Gal on April 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Come on back Spirit, I have your citizenship card waiting for ya.
conservnut on April 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM
For
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It’s called sarcasm. Look it up. Sheesh.
angryed on April 18, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Not yet. But be still my beating heart!
Besides, you guys (and gals) must appreciate the export of Texan values
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Hope this thread continues. Texas is fascinating! Thanks so much for all the info,like the town names listed.
I got my ideas about Texas from the movies “Giant,” “Lonesome Dove” and recently “Second Hand Lions,” I see that they were not off the mark.
Would you take Minnesotans?? Nelson, imagine–no more PC Uptown Artsy Fairs, no Keith Ellisons or Al Frankens–no middle school “diversity directors,” no encouraging gov’t dependancy,no bloated state legislature(Minnesota’s is almost twice the size of California’s, though we have 1/7th the population.)
I would miss the eel-pout ice fishing festival,though.
lizzee on April 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I have a lot of colorful Texas relatives. Salt of the earth type — good people. My last visit we stayed in Gun Barrel City, and drove to Bug Tussle for a wedding.
Go Texas!
NaCly dog on April 18, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Any chance you could send some fresh wall-eye? (When is it in season?)
obladioblada on April 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I second that. Spirit is one of my all time favorite old school HA posters.
For kicks last night, I logged into LGF for the first time since the election; it was a Perry thread. My post was up for probably 30 minutes before some other person comments on my thread and makes the argument about…wait for it….the horrible control Perry has over school books and the whole ID/Creationism issue. So I respectfully and thoughtfully responded to him and played down the ID part.
I go back and check this morning and he had responded back to me with all sorts of ad hom and cursing.
Then follow your Perry messiah and try to establish a f*cking theocracy; entangling church and state in public school science class is unconstitutional violation of the 1st Amendment. A Christian version of Iran, complete with sectarian madrassas, would be a totalitarian theocratic abomination. It would be a sacrifice of freedom on the altar of faith.
Geez, tough crowd.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Sure, why not?!
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Thanks for the compliment; I reciprocate the thought – when in a thread, I always take note of your comments.
Spirit of 1776 on April 18, 2009 at 12:15 PM
That means a lot.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Yeah, there’d be a lot of hispanics, but so what? Here in West Tx, we have a lot who came here the right way, or are the kids of those who did, and are proud Americans. They fly their Texas and American flags, and are some of the best neighbors I have.
bikermailman on April 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM
lizzee on April 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM
You can ice fish here in the Panhandle some of the time, it’ll just have to be in the stock tanks.
bikermailman on April 18, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Charles and his minions have morphed into political anarchy over there.
Wow Carbon, you must have had some serious insomnia to go over there.
katy on April 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Haha I did indeed. I read a lot of comments over there. It is amazing how much the groupthink has grown. Charles tends to ban people who slightly insult him, and that’s his prerogative. Could you imagine all the people we would lose here if Allahpundit followed the same standards? I know I would be less snarky with him.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Ha. It’s good to still see everyone here this morning. I forgot to mention last night that Texas has some of the best micro brews I’ve ever had. St. Arnold is my current favorite. A lot of Germans settled here and brought beer with them. In fact I’ve given up drinking Guiness, and have stuck with just Texas beer.
Weight of Glory on April 18, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Burger King sells the Texas Double Whopper, too!
Weight of Glory on April 18, 2009 at 1:04 PM
You’ll have to try Shiner Hefeweisen, and their Black Lager – both outstanding. First is wheat beer, the second is a rich dark brew, not quite as sweet as Guiness.
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Oh man. I am so banned at LGF after this little excerpt that I just wrote:
As far as the ID/Creationism debate goes, if Obama continues pushing his cap and trade, amnesty and delves into gun control, Texas will have to consider drastic measures. Those issues define us. SO in the scheme and priority of things, ID is way low on the list.
It was in response to another person who, used to be very visible here at HA. Not surprisingly, I have not seen her here in months.
It is truly a shame because becoming focused on such an issue like ID is sure to waste valuable time and energy that could be spent fighting Obama/Pelosi/Reid.
Shiner Bock is great too. I actually don’t think I have ever tried Lone Star beer. I might have to now.
True, and don’t forget Whataburger!
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM
I just threw a figurative rock through his window over there for you.
Vashta.Nerada on April 18, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Heh
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Lone Star beer also has a fun little marketing ploy. Underneath every bottlecap is a pictograph puzzle. Some are quite difficult, and each bottlecap is numbered. If stumped, go to:
http://www.lonestarbeer.com/
Click the “Lone Star Spirit” icon to look up the answers. Good times.
hic….
anuts on April 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM
I love Lone Star. I love Shiner Bock too but it gives me a headache. Like that Shiner 100 pretty well, though.
Nelsen, I am a Nelson originally from Minneapolis, and Austin looks a lot like that city in places. But the rest of Texas should provide a respite from the libs!
Missy on April 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Lone Star is the best cheap beer out there. The New Belgium beers (Fat Tire, 1552, etc) aren’t Texas, they’re from Colorado, but still durned good stuff!
bikermailman on April 18, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Before this thread goes down the memory hole, I wanted to say I loved it. We should have a Texas thread at least once a week!
katy on April 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM
My favorite thread of all time here. You were a big part of that.
Thanks.
carbon_footprint on April 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM
ditto carbon!
katy on April 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM