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So he thinks Republicans ought to be more like the Dems? They still don’t get it. Conservatives are not mad at them for voting down the SCHIP, homeowner bailout. Rep Tom Cole like the rest of the Republican congressional critters just don’t get it or else that force field around the Beltway is so strong our voices can’t penetrate.
Knee jerk legislation like CFL mandate, uncontrolled spending and no real movement on the immigration issue is what has rank and file Republicans in a foul mood.
As far as scandals go the Dems are far outpacing the field in that regard.
No Mr Cole what is lacking from Republican candidates and current elected officials is a backbone.
He then spoke of the need to “re-brand” the party in the likeness of McCain, which may be a tall order, since many rank-and-file conservatives have reviled McCain for years for his transgressions against party orthodoxy.
Stupid 2008 election.
Esthier on May 14, 2008 at 3:25 PM
He believes Bush’s staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file.
So, to get back into power the Republicans need to spend even more?
They haven’t learned a thing, have they?
29Victor on May 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM
The republican leadership are morons. They still don’t get it and are flopping around like fish out of water. It is not Bush’s fault it is the Republican Congress that is to blame for being spineless, big spending RINOs. At least Bush holds his ground which is something you could all take a lesson from. Good Bye Republican party, out of the ashes the conservatives will rise.
trs on May 14, 2008 at 3:33 PM
He then spoke of the need to “re-brand” the party in the likeness of McCain
If this happens there seriously needs to be a new Conservative party. They say that the D who just won was both pro-life and pro-gun. . . so they decide that conservative values that the R party has historically championed are no good.
These guys don’t get it 29 Victor. I don’t think they will until there aren’t any more of them left to be so wrong. Conservative means LIMITED government. SCHIP, housing bailout expands government on the backs of taxpayers.
They don’t get it indeed. It is sad to read articles of them saying, ‘The boat is bringing on water through this hole in the floor. . . DRILL ANOTHER HOLE SO IT CAN DRAIN OUT.’ Just because these guys get elected doesn’t mean they know much.
Bye bye, GOP. You lose because you are poor approximations of Democrats. If I wanted nanny-state socialism, I’d already be a Democrat.
If it weren’t for the global war against the jihadis, the GOP would have nothing to run on. Not a damn thing. Judges? Gang of 14. Spending? The GOP is a bunch of pigs. Regulation? McCain, Gingrich et al. want their grubby fingers in every aspect of the economy by way of global warming hysteria.
Conservatism has no place in the GOP any more. And now the chumps want to run even faster from it.
spmat on May 14, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Their loosing because they are ineffective and not following their own platform…
So, they go FURTHER from the conservative platform?
Doh!
Romeo13 on May 14, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Inside the meeting, Davis had just presented his colleagues with what he said was a 20-page memo outlining his prescription for a way out of this mess.
If his prescription was anything other than the “Big Five” then toss his ass out.
WIN THE WAR
CONFIRM THE JUDGES
SECURE THE BORDER
CONTROL THE SPENDING
CUT THE TAXES
That’s it, fellas. Not rocket science.
benjamin on May 14, 2008 at 4:25 PM
May they lose in a landslide, House and Senate, with a dead-sure proof override majority, and may the Preacher in Chief win. The left and the right don’t deserve anything less. I feel sorry only for the country but it can’t be helped.
The meek will never rule the world, but they will allow to be ruled, and I say rejoice, because they’re doing it to themselves.
Entelechy on May 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Yeah, they’re below the floor, and they grab a damn shovel. Worthless, absolutely worthless.
I think what’s likely to happen is a big Democrat victory, including Congress and the Presidency. People don’t seem to be enamored with issues this cycle, other than the idea of change for the sake of change.
Once bills begin moving through Congress, it will be up to the remaining conservative-leaning members to specify exactly how much these initiatives will cost the American tax-payer. Then you’ll see specifically which way citizens lean politically.
If people really want European style socialism, they’ll get it. Entropy favours this kind of politics anyway. Freedoms and financial self-reliance are like a great stone on a hill. If you do nothing to keep it in place, it will roll into the sea and be lost forever. Maybe people are just tired of pushing it uphill.
Asher on May 14, 2008 at 4:42 PM
It is official. We conservatives are the RINOs now.
Asked if he thought there should be a change in House GOP leadership, he brought up the 2006 election and the loss of Congress, then wondered aloud why, when “the plane is being flown into the mountain,” there has been no change in direction.
When the plane was being flown into the skyscraper it never occurred to the GOP to close the border. Immigration restriction could be a winning issue for the Republican Party. Do that, cut taxes and spending and hey presto they’re out of the lurch.
This won’t be easily fixed, nor will the programs put in place by the Bambi and a filibuster proof Congress. I honestly think a lack of term limits hurts both parties and the country badly. Seniority rules and this is what you get. The GOP is a generic party now with no brand name. Compassionate conservatism.
a capella on May 14, 2008 at 5:05 PM
aengus on May 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM
It really is bad when an guy in Ireland and friggin’ MSNBC see the problem before the GOP elite do.
Excellent articulation of what the GOP doesn’t get!
ihasurnominashun on May 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Conservative means LIMITED government. SCHIP, housing bailout expands government on the backs of taxpayers.
ThackerAgency on May 14, 2008 at 3:56 PM
That might be persuasive had we limited the government to the United States. But we’re off in a foreign land, building roads and hospitals and schools. Meanwhile, back at home, we oppose health insurance for American children.
You can at least see why people might think we’re hair holes, yes?
In any case, it no longer matters what we see. Come November, the voters are going to blow our asses out on a scale not seen since 1974.
Bush’s opposition to SCHIP is the problem? This guy is crazy. Apparently he wants more Democrat-lite. I say Davis IS a big part of the problem. Time for him to call it a career and go home.
Terri on May 14, 2008 at 5:55 PM
He believes Bush’s staunch opposition to the Democratic housing bill and the SCHIP bill, for example, is hurting rank and file. Look at yesterday’s vote on the SPRO, where Republicans defied the president in droves. Lo and behold, the White House says today that it will not veto the bill.
Today is also the day when the House takes up the farm bill, which the president has promised to veto. It’s expected that this will become the second veto of Bush’s administration to be overridden — though the farm bill has more of a parochial dynamic than the national political one.
HUH? “Look – the Dems aren’t socialist enough. we must be more socialist.”
It is official. We conservatives are the RINOs now.
Valiant on May 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Isn’t that the horrible truth. To borrow from RWR – I didn’t leave the republican party, they left me.-
Corsair on May 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Haha yeah! Ireland isn’t socialist though. We’ve been using Reaganomics since early 90’s. Unemployment: 4.3%.
aengus on May 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Heh, I wasn’t making a judgment call on Ireland, just noting that its friggin’ pitiful that someone across the pond has a better understanding of American politics than our own party leaders.
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So he thinks Republicans ought to be more like the Dems? They still don’t get it. Conservatives are not mad at them for voting down the SCHIP, homeowner bailout. Rep Tom Cole like the rest of the Republican congressional critters just don’t get it or else that force field around the Beltway is so strong our voices can’t penetrate.
Knee jerk legislation like CFL mandate, uncontrolled spending and no real movement on the immigration issue is what has rank and file Republicans in a foul mood.
As far as scandals go the Dems are far outpacing the field in that regard.
No Mr Cole what is lacking from Republican candidates and current elected officials is a backbone.
Just A Grunt on May 14, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Stupid 2008 election.
Esthier on May 14, 2008 at 3:25 PM
So, to get back into power the Republicans need to spend even more?
They haven’t learned a thing, have they?
29Victor on May 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM
The republican leadership are morons. They still don’t get it and are flopping around like fish out of water. It is not Bush’s fault it is the Republican Congress that is to blame for being spineless, big spending RINOs. At least Bush holds his ground which is something you could all take a lesson from. Good Bye Republican party, out of the ashes the conservatives will rise.
trs on May 14, 2008 at 3:33 PM
If this happens there seriously needs to be a new Conservative party. They say that the D who just won was both pro-life and pro-gun. . . so they decide that conservative values that the R party has historically championed are no good.
These guys don’t get it 29 Victor. I don’t think they will until there aren’t any more of them left to be so wrong. Conservative means LIMITED government. SCHIP, housing bailout expands government on the backs of taxpayers.
They don’t get it indeed. It is sad to read articles of them saying, ‘The boat is bringing on water through this hole in the floor. . . DRILL ANOTHER HOLE SO IT CAN DRAIN OUT.’ Just because these guys get elected doesn’t mean they know much.
ThackerAgency on May 14, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Bye bye, GOP. You lose because you are poor approximations of Democrats. If I wanted nanny-state socialism, I’d already be a Democrat.
If it weren’t for the global war against the jihadis, the GOP would have nothing to run on. Not a damn thing. Judges? Gang of 14. Spending? The GOP is a bunch of pigs. Regulation? McCain, Gingrich et al. want their grubby fingers in every aspect of the economy by way of global warming hysteria.
Conservatism has no place in the GOP any more. And now the chumps want to run even faster from it.
spmat on May 14, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Their loosing because they are ineffective and not following their own platform…
So, they go FURTHER from the conservative platform?
Doh!
Romeo13 on May 14, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Inside the meeting, Davis had just presented his colleagues with what he said was a 20-page memo outlining his prescription for a way out of this mess.
If his prescription was anything other than the “Big Five” then toss his ass out.
WIN THE WAR
CONFIRM THE JUDGES
SECURE THE BORDER
CONTROL THE SPENDING
CUT THE TAXES
That’s it, fellas. Not rocket science.
benjamin on May 14, 2008 at 4:25 PM
May they lose in a landslide, House and Senate, with a dead-sure proof override majority, and may the Preacher in Chief win. The left and the right don’t deserve anything less. I feel sorry only for the country but it can’t be helped.
The meek will never rule the world, but they will allow to be ruled, and I say rejoice, because they’re doing it to themselves.
Entelechy on May 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Yeah, they’re below the floor, and they grab a damn shovel. Worthless, absolutely worthless.
doubleplusundead on May 14, 2008 at 4:28 PM
This is shameful. Simply shameful.
Weight of Glory on May 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM
I think what’s likely to happen is a big Democrat victory, including Congress and the Presidency. People don’t seem to be enamored with issues this cycle, other than the idea of change for the sake of change.
Once bills begin moving through Congress, it will be up to the remaining conservative-leaning members to specify exactly how much these initiatives will cost the American tax-payer. Then you’ll see specifically which way citizens lean politically.
If people really want European style socialism, they’ll get it. Entropy favours this kind of politics anyway. Freedoms and financial self-reliance are like a great stone on a hill. If you do nothing to keep it in place, it will roll into the sea and be lost forever. Maybe people are just tired of pushing it uphill.
Asher on May 14, 2008 at 4:42 PM
It is official. We conservatives are the RINOs now.
Valiant on May 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM
When the plane was being flown into the skyscraper it never occurred to the GOP to close the border. Immigration restriction could be a winning issue for the Republican Party. Do that, cut taxes and spending and hey presto they’re out of the lurch.
aengus on May 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM
This won’t be easily fixed, nor will the programs put in place by the Bambi and a filibuster proof Congress. I honestly think a lack of term limits hurts both parties and the country badly. Seniority rules and this is what you get. The GOP is a generic party now with no brand name. Compassionate conservatism.
a capella on May 14, 2008 at 5:05 PM
It really is bad when an guy in Ireland and friggin’ MSNBC see the problem before the GOP elite do.
doubleplusundead on May 14, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Excellent articulation of what the GOP doesn’t get!
ihasurnominashun on May 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM
That might be persuasive had we limited the government to the United States. But we’re off in a foreign land, building roads and hospitals and schools. Meanwhile, back at home, we oppose health insurance for American children.
You can at least see why people might think we’re hair holes, yes?
In any case, it no longer matters what we see. Come November, the voters are going to blow our asses out on a scale not seen since 1974.
paul006 on May 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Haha yeah! Ireland isn’t socialist though. We’ve been using Reaganomics since early 90’s. Unemployment: 4.3%.
aengus on May 14, 2008 at 5:35 PM
The Republicans just have a SCHIP on their shoulder.
aengus on May 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Bush’s opposition to SCHIP is the problem? This guy is crazy. Apparently he wants more Democrat-lite. I say Davis IS a big part of the problem. Time for him to call it a career and go home.
Terri on May 14, 2008 at 5:55 PM
HUH? “Look – the Dems aren’t socialist enough. we must be more socialist.”
Isn’t that the horrible truth. To borrow from RWR – I didn’t leave the republican party, they left me.-
Corsair on May 14, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Heh, I wasn’t making a judgment call on Ireland, just noting that its friggin’ pitiful that someone across the pond has a better understanding of American politics than our own party leaders.
doubleplusundead on May 14, 2008 at 6:30 PM