Green Room

Video: Obamacare critics defeat proponents in NYC debate

posted at 3:26 pm on January 24, 2014 by

Mary Katharine touched on this Megan McArdle piece last night, but I figured it’d be worth posting AEI’s handy recap video of the event described in her column.  By way of background, two supporters of Obamacare (Jonathan Chait and Dr. Douglas Kamerow) locked horns with two opponents of the law (McArdle and Dr. Scott Gottlieb) in a formal debate on Manhattan’s Upper West Side last week.  The proposition in question was whether the Affordable Care Act is beyond rescue.  The winner of these “Intelligence Squared” debates is determined by which side persuades more attendees over the course of the event, as measured by audience polls conducted before and after the presentation.  On that metric, the Obamacare critics won big:

Prior to the exchange, just 16 percent (!) of the audience was inclined to agree with McArdle and Gottlieb’s position.  (Here’s a sense of just how out of touch Manhattan’s elites are on this issue). By the debate’s conclusion, that number doubled to 32 percent.  Convincing nearly one-third of an UWS audience to adopt a conservative-leaning viewpoint is, shall we say, a challenge:

You’re looking at a map of how New York City’s precincts voted in the 2012 presidential election.  Obama won the city in dominant fashion, carrying 81 percent of the total vote.  Romney’s only strongholds were in Staten Island and certain neighborhoods of Brooklyn — plus a few tiny outposts in Queens and the Bronx.  It doesn’t appear that the Republican won a single precinct in all of Manhattan.  The Upper West Side, where this Obamacare debate was held, is that navy blue block just west of Central Park.  Obama took many of these precincts with more than 90 percent of the vote.  Gov. Cuomo’s purge wouldn’t take much effort in New York City, it seems.

Recently in the Green Room:

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Gov. Cuomo’s purge putsch wouldn’t take much effort in New York City, it seems.

FIFY.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on January 24, 2014 at 4:04 PM

You’re looking at a map of how New York City’s precincts voted in the 2012 presidential election.

It would be very interesting to compare this map with a map of the areas of NYC where the violent crime rate is highest.

My money is on the “bluest” areas having the highest violent crime rates.

UltimateBob on January 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM

Obama took many of these precincts with more than 90 percent of the vote.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist (I have stayed at Holiday Inn Express, however), but isn’t it just a little odd that NINETY percent of these areas voted Obama? NINETY?!?!

el hombre on January 24, 2014 at 4:59 PM

I’m not a conspiracy theorist (I have stayed at Holiday Inn Express, however), but isn’t it just a little odd that NINETY percent of these areas voted Obama? NINETY?!?!

el hombre on January 24, 2014 at 4:59 PM

There were precincts in Philadelphia where 0bama got 98% of the vote. One of them was even 100% IIRC.

UltimateBob on January 24, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Romney’s only strongholds were in Staten Island and certain neighborhoods of Brooklyn — plus a few tiny outposts in Queens and the Bronx.

Clearly Romney only got the rich vote.

Grunt on January 24, 2014 at 5:32 PM

I’m not a conspiracy theorist (I have stayed at Holiday Inn Express, however), but isn’t it just a little odd that NINETY percent of these areas voted Obama? NINETY?!?!

el hombre on January 24, 2014 at 4:59 PM

There were precincts in Philadelphia where 0bama got 98% of the vote. One of them was even 100% IIRC.

UltimateBob on January 24, 2014 at 5:07 PM

Surprisingly, they had locked the Republican ward watchers out, prior to thier amazing 100% turnouts, 100% of whom voted for Obama, but the Pennsylvania judge who threw out the voter photo ID law maintains there is no evidence of voter fraud in PA.

talkingpoints on January 24, 2014 at 8:47 PM

Well now that DeBlasio has enshrined ACORN in government by hiring Bertha Lewis, expect those numbers to go back up to 100% of the 22% that actually vote in NYC.

That’s the legacy of Rudy Guiliani. No conservative/republican bench in NYC and a anemic one in NY State. Rudy never built the party. Just like Christie’s doing now in NJ.

Iblis on January 24, 2014 at 9:30 PM

Jonathan “I hate George W. Bush” Chait got beat? Gotta see this.

thebrokenrattle on January 24, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Intelligence squared? Sounds like an oxymoron. Only 16% of these fools listened to several hours of reason and changed their minds. The overwhelming majority continued to cling to their blind faith in Obama.

kpguru on January 25, 2014 at 7:44 AM

…if it snows…will they get plowed!

KOOLAID2 on January 25, 2014 at 7:24 PM