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Sherman fined $7,875 for taunting by NFL

posted at 6:47 pm on January 24, 2014 by

Strictly speaking, this fine for Seattle Seahawk Richard Sherman isn’t for the brief altercation with Michael Crabtree or Sherman’s interview with Erin Andrews after the game, but for the “choke” taunt afterward aimed at Colin Kaepernick after Sherman’s game-winning play. But … how did they come up with the figure?

Meanwhile, his actions immediately after the final 49ers offensive play of the game has drawn a fine for the league. The league has confirmed with PFT that Sherman was fined $7,875 for taunting and unsportsmanlike conduct.

Sherman knocked away a pass intended for 49ers wide receiver Michael Crabtree in the end zone with seconds to play in the fourth quarter and the ball wound up in the hands of Seahawks linebacker Malcolm Smith. After the play, Sherman left his celebrating teammates, approached Crabtree and drew a flag for taunting.

Was $7850 not enough of a disincentive, but $7900 just too harsh? Why not $7,873.26? I’m sure there’s a real formula at work here, but it looks as ridiculous as much of the criticism of Sherman did in perspective.

Speaking of that, here’s what actually transpired immediately after the play:

Sherman, as captured by NFL Films, stuck out his hand and said “helluva game, helluva game” to Crabtree, who responded by shoving Sherman in the facemask. Crabtree was not fined.

Follow the link to a longer video, but this one captures the event clearly, as Sherman was mic’d up for the game:

That’s why Sherman got riled up, and why the trash talk should have been kept in perspective.

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One thing I don’t quite get. I believe publicly funded universities typically have restrictions preventing them from restricting students’ and professors’ free speech, the rationale being that they are not acting as completely private entities. (Yes, I realize their administrations regularly flout these rulings, being the petty tyrants that they are, but they generally seem to lose in court, eventually – FIRE is pretty good about taking on the worst offenders, for example.)

The NFL is heavily subsidized in the form of stadium subsidies, etc., so how is it they can get away with fining people for speech?

RINO in Name Only on January 24, 2014 at 6:58 PM

Leave Sherman alone!!!1

Seriously. Can we all agree football is the world’s biggest reality tv show and is as vacuous as The Bachelor?

Omg Crabtree said what? How does Sherman feel? I thought that kind of crap was so beta…

antisense on January 24, 2014 at 6:59 PM

The NFL doesn’t want this story to die.

22044 on January 24, 2014 at 7:03 PM

Was $7850 not enough of a disincentive, but $7900 just too harsh? Why not $7,873.26? I’m sure there’s a real formula at work here, but it looks as ridiculous as much of the criticism of Sherman did in perspective.

I’m not sure why the number surprises you. You quite likely just answered your own question.

For example, something vaguely along the lines of:

offensive taunt category 1, includes things of a very personal nature, unrelated to game – $3000 per infraction x 2 infractions = $6000

category 2: taunt related to disparaging athletic ability of opponent – $600 per infraction x 3 infractions = $1800

category 3: taunt related to opponent’s team losing – $25 per infraction x 3 infractions = $75.

I’m not claiming anything about the merits of this specific – I’ve spent about 30 seconds reviewing the specifics, which is about 30 seconds more than I intended – but I don’t see how a fine not being a round number is anything to raise eyebrows at, as it likely is a combination of roundish numbers.

RINO in Name Only on January 24, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Sherman, as captured by NFL Films, stuck out his hand and said “helluva game, helluva game” to Crabtree, who responded by shoving Sherman in the facemask. Crabtree was not fined.

Yeah but, what did Sherman say during the game? Yo Mamma!

Vince on January 24, 2014 at 7:22 PM

Sherman, as captured by NFL Films, stuck out his hand and said “helluva game, helluva game” to Crabtree, who responded by shoving Sherman in the facemask. Crabtree was not fined.

Too bad the Seahawks weren’t playing the Pats…there would have been more cameras around the Seattle players.

:P

JetBoy on January 24, 2014 at 7:41 PM

it likely is a combination of roundish numbers

Nope, it’s flat-rate pricing. The NFL and the NFLPA negotiate the schedule of fines, and they’re all indexed off the lowest value–$5,250 for writing a personal message on your uniform. Taunting is 1.5x that, or $7,875. It runs all the way up to 5x the base ($26,250) for touching an official or fighting with another player. The weird-looking $5,250 value was 1% of the minimum base salary for a third-year player when the union contract was written.

Fabozz on January 24, 2014 at 7:49 PM

What is it with football players these days. They make a good play, and then jump around like a bunch of Kansas City f@ggots###(see below). Whatever happened to their personal dignity, reserve, humility?

### “Blazing Saddles” reference by Slim Pickens

/Look at me, look at me, look at me!!!!

Paul-Cincy on January 24, 2014 at 8:01 PM

He’ll make that back (and much more) when the ‘Hawks win the Superbowl.

;)

Shepherd Lover on January 24, 2014 at 8:55 PM

What he did was just stupid. They’re so full of adrenalin and testosterone they can’t seem to keep from fighting and losing their tempers, but it doesn’t help them with the refs or the public. They end up costing their teams and losing games with penalties. He got away with it this time because it was at the end of the game, but he could have lost that play for taunting. Everybody keeps pointing how smart he is and his grades at Stanford. Too bad nobody ever taught him to keep his head.

flataffect on January 24, 2014 at 9:21 PM

I think that all people of good will can agree that Sherman is a turd.

Mason on January 24, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Really? For trash talking? What the hell is happening to professional football. This is all about the feminization of American society through the NFL (National Feminists League?). Roger Goodell needs to go and go now, before he “fundamentally transforms” football. The current rules are a bad Jake on the game and its fans. Now they may move the superbowl day because of snow, maybe. The sport is being dismantled by wussies.

simkeith on January 24, 2014 at 10:40 PM

I think that all people of good will can agree that Sherman is a turd.

Mason on January 24, 2014 at 10:22 PM

If that’s what you call thinking

Shepherd Lover on January 24, 2014 at 10:41 PM

I think that all people of good will can agree that Sherman is a turd.

Mason on January 24, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Convincing argument. /

22044 on January 24, 2014 at 11:30 PM

The announcer is Steve Raible, former Seahawk receiver. The commmentator, who lets out a little girl shout when Sherman tips the ball, is HOFer Warren Moon.

Mallard T. Drake on January 24, 2014 at 11:33 PM

keerist!!!

This is FOOTBALL not ballet class!!! get over it!

Much ado about zilch. Go Hawks!

exliberal on January 25, 2014 at 1:49 AM

Nope, it’s flat-rate pricing. The NFL and the NFLPA negotiate the schedule of fines, and they’re all indexed off the lowest value–$5,250 for writing a personal message on your uniform. Taunting is 1.5x that, or $7,875. It runs all the way up to 5x the base ($26,250) for touching an official or fighting with another player. The weird-looking $5,250 value was 1% of the minimum base salary for a third-year player when the union contract was written.

Fabozz on January 24, 2014 at 7:49 PM

Oh ok. Thanks.

So the upshot is that the weirdness of the fine amount is just a consequence of the lack of a round number for a salary. But that’s pretty normal. I thereby declare Ed’s allegations insufficient roundness of the fine to be without merit. Judgement for the defendant is 78 and three quarters of a cent.

The regularly scheduled food-fight over whether to fine this person at all may resume.

RINO in Name Only on January 25, 2014 at 2:14 AM

1. The choke display was taunting; I think the small fine was appropriate to discourage over-the-top taunting. I have no problem with less overt trash talking remaining part of the game.
2. Given that Sherman revealed he disrespected Crabtree, his “Helluva Game…” was not entirely innocent and was, at least in part, taunting. Nevertheless, it was a small deal, and the NFL is opening a hornet’s nest if it wants to be a helicopter mom over the players and inflict punishment to protect player’s feelings. Let ‘em play and trash talk; they are supposedly professionals, and it keeps the game more interesting and fun when the talkers bite the dust themselves.
3. 7,875; as mentioned above, this is 150% more than 5,250. “250″= 1/4 of 1000 and “875″ = 7/8 of 1000; so the number isn’t really that weird.

G. Charles on January 25, 2014 at 2:29 AM

G. Charles,

Good points, especially the bite the dust part of the second one. Sherman has been acting the fool repeatedly long before this incident, and like it or not, another player will knock some sense into him sooner or later. Plenty of excellent and classy replacements waiting out there for their shot.

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 3:14 AM

Really? For trash talking? What the hell is happening to professional football. This is all about the feminization of American society through the NFL (National Feminists League?). Roger Goodell needs to go and go now, before he “fundamentally transforms” football. The current rules are a bad Jake on the game and its fans. Now they may move the superbowl day because of snow, maybe. The sport is being dismantled by wussies.

simkeith on January 24, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Don’t copy Rush unless you’re as good as Rush.

Little tip: you’re not.

Roger Goodell is by all counts pretty conservative and will only feminize the game to prevent its destruction in the legal system. Maybe you prefer that he shake his fist and do nothing in the face of NFLPA lawsuits?
The possible re-scheduling of the Super Bowl is because it is much more than a football game–it is the sport’s greatest marketing tool. Why else do you think it is being held in such a ridiculous (football-wise) venue as it is?
Besides, would you want the NCAA basketball championship played outdoors on an aircraft carrier? While it is an interesting venue, nobody wants the elements to play a large role in the championship game. Same with the Super Bowl. How is it that Peyton has to play in the only rainy Super Bowl, and the only Super Bowl to face snow, sleet and/or freezing conditions?
The true football fan would sit thru freezing temps to engage in a championship, but the elites who drop big bucks to attend the SB wouldn’t. Maybe instead of moving the game, they should give those tickets to the Cleveland, Buffalo, Cincinnati, etc. fans who routinely sit in freezing temps to watch their teams who have never yet won a championship.

rwenger43 on January 25, 2014 at 3:31 AM

G. Charles,

Good points, especially the bite the dust part of the second one. Sherman has been acting the fool repeatedly long before this incident, and like it or not, another player will knock some sense into him sooner or later. Plenty of excellent and classy replacements waiting out there for their shot.

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 3:14 AM

Hey Sandy!! About time you showed up to whine some more about Sherman!!

Shepherd Lover on January 25, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Shepherd Lover on January 25, 2014 at 10:48 AM

Sorry for criticizing your idol. It’s great that your team has had to divert real time they could’ve spent getting prepared for the Big Game in order to address that individual’s behavioral issues.

GO, BRONCOS!

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 11:45 AM

Sorry for criticizing your idol. It’s great that your team has had to divert real time they could’ve spent getting prepared for the Big Game in order to address that individual’s behavioral issues.

GO, BRONCOS!

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 11:45 AM

No, it’s pathetic that small, shallow people in the media (and you) keep talking about this, when it’s a non-issue. Hasn’t “divert(ed) real time” from anything. Not the team, and not Sherman. Rather than people talking about the play he made, they’re talking about his comments in the heat of the moment. Something that happens EVERY game, on EVERY Sunday, on EVERY field. Only reason Sherman drew flak for it is because he made the game-changing/ending play that ensured Seattle’s trip to the Superbowl. Obviously, your gambling losses (or sandy vaj) hasn’t let you move on from it.

Incidentally, it’s this same kind of mindset that has turned much of TV into pure drivel, what with “reality” shows that thrive on nothing more than the controversy they can gin up, to propel their ratings (obviously, you’re their target audience). You thrive on the “dirt”, hence the reason you haven’t loosened your Chihuahua-like bite on Sherman’s ankles…

Shepherd Lover on January 25, 2014 at 12:24 PM

s/b had

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 12:30 PM

Shepherd Lover on January 25, 2014 at 12:24 PM

Demaryius Thomas and Richard Sherman meet St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. St. Peter looks at his book and says, “Demaryius, go right in” then asks Richard to explain why he deserves to enter. Richard pleads, “I was the best cornerback ever, I went to Stanford, and I was better at life than Skip Bayless.” St. Peter looks over at Demaryius and says, “Tell him.” Demaryius turns to Richard and says, “Don’t be mad, bro. Only winners get wings!”

(Steal this joke, sports fans.)

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM

Lou-hoo-ser.

Shepherd Lover on January 25, 2014 at 12:43 PM

Shame on Sherman for being a male! Castrate him immediately!!!

John the Libertarian on January 25, 2014 at 3:29 PM

…I have no problem with Sherman…until the thug comment… much later.

KOOLAID2 on January 25, 2014 at 7:43 PM

Wait until Manning fines him several touchdown passes.

Dollayo on January 25, 2014 at 9:25 PM

New NFL Bad Lip Reading

“I brought the golden staff to the village.”

Christien on January 25, 2014 at 10:50 PM

The 49ers are a bunch of punks and sore losers.
They acted the same way when they lost the Super Bowl last year.

DRayRaven on January 26, 2014 at 11:09 AM

We keep hearing how smart this guy is. If it was so, he’d keep ho south shut. Egoist that he is, he believes that there’s no wrong & quickly points his finger at someone else. Where have we seen this before.

RdLake on January 26, 2014 at 2:36 PM

Justin Bieber released on 2500 bond…..

libfreeordie on January 26, 2014 at 6:53 PM

A less ambiguous headline:

Sherman fined $7,875 by NFL for taunting

Tzetzes on January 26, 2014 at 10:26 PM