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Biden: Hey, sorry that neither Obama or I are tech geeks

posted at 11:16 am on October 31, 2013 by

Joe Biden emerged from his relative seclusion these days to offer an apology for the ObamaCare debacle, but also argued that neither he nor Barack Obama know much about websites anyway.  File this under Things that would have been good to know earlier:

VICE PRES. JOE BIDEN TO CNN: “We were under the impression that it was ready to go. We had the president, to his credit, almost seven weeks out was saying, ‘is it going to be ready?’ and to be told by the pros that, ‘yeah, this is all ready to go, all in line.’ Neither he or I are technology geeks and we assumed that it was up and ready to run, but the good news is that although it’s not, and we apologize for that, we’re confident that by the end of November it will be and there will still be plenty of time for people to register to get online.”

No one expects a chief executive to be adept at coding.  We expect them to hire people who are adept at coding, rather than a company whose biggest previous project was a failed gun-registry system in Canada. We expect a chief executive to find managers and directors who can take $400 million and deliver an operational web portal on time, and to be aware of the real status of that project sometime before the executive begins to force millions of Americans into using it.

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It’s a series of tubes, Joe.

Galtian on October 31, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Being a fascist mastermind rocket surgeon is hard.

onomo on October 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM

No one expects a chief executive to be adept at coding. We expect them to hire people who are adept at coding, rather than a company whose biggest previous project was a failed gun-registry system in Canada. We expect a chief executive to find managers and directors who can take $400 million and deliver an operational web portal on time, and to be aware of the real status of that project sometime before the executive begins to force millions of Americans into using it.

In other words we expect someone who can actually manage, as the title Chief Executive implies.

Public Executive experience of all presidents prior to becoming the chief executive:

Washington – Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army
Adams – Vice President, Minister
Jefferson – Vice President, Governor, Secretary of State, Minister
Madison – Secretary of State
Monroe – Governor, Secretary of State, Minister, Major
Adams – Minister, Secretary of State
Jackson – Governor, Colonel, Major General
Van Buren – Attorney General, Governor, Secretary of State, Minister
Harrison – Secretary of the Northwest Territory, Governor, Minister, Major General
Tyler – Governor, Vice President
Polk – Governor
Taylor – Major General
Fillmore – Comptroller of New York, Vice President
Pierce – Brigadier General
Buchanan – Minister, Secretary of State
Lincoln –
Johnson – Governor, Vice President
Grant – General of the Army
Hayes – Governor, Brevet Major General
Garfield – Major General
Arthur – Collector of the Port of New York, Vice President, Brigadier General
Cleveland – Mayor, Governor
Harrison – Brigadier General
McKinley – Governor, Brevet Major
Roosevelt – Assistant Secretary of the Navy, Governor, Vice President, Colonel
Taft – Governor-General of the Philippines, Secretary of War, Provisional Governor of Cuba
Wilson – President of Princeton University, Governor
Harding – Lieutenant Governor
Coolidge – Mayor, Lieutenant Governor, Governor, Vice President
Hoover – Secretary of Commerce
Roosevelt – Assistant Secretary of the Navy, Governor
Truman – Vice President, Major
Eisenhower – President of Columbia University, Plethora of Military Commands, General of the Army
Kennedy – Lieutenant
Johnson – Vice President, Lieutenant Commander
Nixon – Vice President, Lieutenant Commander
Ford – Vice President, Lieutenant Commander (I see a trend here)
Carter – Governor, Lieutenant
Reagan – Governor, Captain
Bush – Ambassador to the United Nations, Chairman of the Republican National Committee, Director of Central Intelligence, Vice President, Lieutenant
Clinton – Attorney General, Governor
Bush – Governor, First Lieutenant
Obama -

Only Lincoln is like Obama in this list, but Obama obviously is no Lincoln. Of course Lincoln’s lack of executive experience did show as well in the fact that it took him awhile to find someone capable of leading our forces to victory.

NotCoach on October 31, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Uncle Joe is now saying the President was specifically asking if it would be ready 7 weeks ago – and was told it would. This is a new wrinkle. Who lied to him 7 weeks ago?

krome on October 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Uncle Joe is now saying the President was specifically asking if it would be ready 7 weeks ago – and was told it would. This is a new wrinkle. Who lied to him 7 weeks ago?

krome on October 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM

What sort of executive doesn’t fire and/or discipline severely everyone who lied to them in such a manner?

NotCoach on October 31, 2013 at 11:50 AM

As I recall, in the first election cycle, the Dems made a big f’in deal about the fact that 0bumble was soooo tech savvy cuz like he used a cell phone / Blackberry, so he was sooo much more in touch with modern technology than that old fashioned slug W.

dentarthurdent on October 31, 2013 at 11:51 AM

I work in IT. I do a lot of projects that are similar to Healthcare.gov. I’ve even done a couple that are somewhat similar in size and scope.

If I’d been working on that project and told we were only going to have two weeks to test, I would have walked. And I would have advised everyone on my team to walk too.

I’ve been on projects that have gone south before. It’s no fun. I’ve resolved not to be on any again, and I’ve talked to my bosses about this. Don’t put me in a situation where I’m guaranteed to fail. I won’t be the fall guy.

Chris of Rights on October 31, 2013 at 12:13 PM

“Neither he or I are technology geeks and we assumed that it was up and ready to run . . . . . . . . . .”

Vice President Joe Biden

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Big of you to admit that, Joe … but that’s really a “world’s worst kept secret.”

Why don’t you try explaining to us what you’re GOOD for, or good at.

Try as we might, we can’t seem to solve that puzzle.

listens2glenn on October 31, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Only Lincoln is like Obama in this list, but Obama obviously is no Lincoln. Of course Lincoln’s lack of executive experience did show as well in the fact that it took him awhile to find someone capable of leading our forces to victory.

NotCoach on October 31, 2013 at 11:38 AM

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Well stated, and a good list of names, too.

When the war started, Lincoln had approximately ZERO military experience, and as such he relied on his political advisers to pick the COs. Those political advisers made POLITICAL choices, based on social/political STATUS, rather than combat instinct and capability.

listens2glenn on October 31, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Neither he or I are technology geeks and we assumed that it was up and ready to run, but the good news is that although it’s not, and we apologize for that, we’re confident that by the end of November it will be and there will still be plenty of time for people to register to get online.

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You don’t need to be technology geeks; you do need to be good manager, experienced in running some kind of complex operation from the top down. Plenty of technology geeks work for and answer to managers who have solid grounding in “the process” and can compel the technology geeks to perform to requirements of the project.
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I thought this administration was all about “the process” and held anyone who didn’t understand “the process” or criticised “the process” to be an ignorant troglodytic knuckle dragging doofus whose best characteristic was atavism. Apparently Biden and his boss are no better than troglodytic atavists who despise the voters that brought them to the pinnacles of power. Shoddy, shoddy work, boys. Shoddy.

ExpressoBold on October 31, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Now that you mention it, you’re pretty much not good at anything.

kbTexan on October 31, 2013 at 1:45 PM

but the good news is that although it’s not, and we apologize for that, we’re confident that by the end of November it will be and there will still be plenty of time for people to register to get online.”

And when it’s NOT? What then Plugs? You and King Barack going to fall on your swords?

GarandFan on October 31, 2013 at 2:41 PM

But they TOTALLY know lots about healthcare and insurance.

CycloneCDB on October 31, 2013 at 3:28 PM

That’s not the case any longer, where CGI is concerned. They have a lot of fed contracts, and they seem to be fairly successful. The admin has been accused of changing priorities almost daily, and for politically self-serving “incompetence”, or what they like to call phony scandals.

Seems to me if the test weeks before the public opening crashed the site, BO knew about it. Maybe Biden missed that article, or he’s just hoping everyone else did.

This admin and the media both jumped the shark on “plausible” deniability a long time ago. The pattern is really well established at this point.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/meet-cgi-federal-the-company-behind-the-botched-launch-of-healthcare-gov/

Recon5 on October 31, 2013 at 4:32 PM

There really should be a special Occam’s Razor corollary for politics, since the simplest explanation is so often right: he’s lying.

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 31, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Uncle Joe is now saying the President was specifically asking if it would be ready 7 weeks ago – and was told it would. This is a new wrinkle. Who lied to him 7 weeks ago?

krome on October 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM

What sort of executive doesn’t fire and/or discipline severely everyone who lied to them in such a manner?

NotCoach on October 31, 2013 at 11:50 AM

You don’t fire people for doing what you’re paying them to do……

There Goes the Neighborhood on October 31, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Doesn’t Obama have about 30 expensive czars who are being paid real money to keep this crap from happening? Or are they just cronies that are enjoying the government trough?

Obama cares more about his flipping golf handicap. All that practice and he still stinks.

marybel on October 31, 2013 at 6:14 PM

In 2008 when I pointed out to liberals that Obama had little experience in leading anything their response was that he had as much experience as Lincoln did and that worked out OK.

Apparently, if a one in a million chance event comes through then you are safe in believing ALL one in a million chance events will also occur. That’s good to know the next time I buy a lotto ticket.

Fred 2 on October 31, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Uncle Joe is now saying the President was specifically asking if it would be ready 7 weeks ago – and was told it would. This is a new wrinkle. Who lied to him 7 weeks ago?krome on October 31, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Who’s lying to him now that it’ll be ready 30 Nov? or for that New Year’s eve of 2014?.

AH_C on October 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Biden and Obama also are not physicians, so we can expect more failures and more excuses down the road. Mrs. Obama was a hospital administrator… where she dumped poor inner-city patients on other facilities.

raybury on October 31, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Did either of them suddenly become a technology geek? If not, why are they confident that this new assurance of readiness has any more validity than the last?

Chitownmom on November 1, 2013 at 10:13 AM