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Video: Jeff Greenfield a little skeptical of MSNBC journalism

posted at 2:30 pm on October 24, 2013 by

An amusing moment, brought to us by Truth Revolt, reflecting on the difference between journalism and advocacy.  Media critic Jeff Greenfield guested on MSNBC’s Now with Alex Wagner to discuss the implications of the ObamaCare failure.  When the panel (which included David Corn of Mother Jones, Joy-Ann Reid of The Grio, and Katrina vanden Heuvel from The Nation) claimed to be journalists more than advocates, Greenfield looked a little … skeptical.

GREENFIELD: No, no, no because I don’t represent myself, I represent myself as a humble country journalist, not an advocate.

WAGNER: I think many people at this table would consider themselves journalists.

GREENFIELD: Who are also advocates.

WAGNER: No we’re not.

GREENFIELD: Progressives and liberals.

WAGNER: We can get into that discussion later.

For the record, Corn certainly qualifies as both, and any advocate can also engage in journalism, depending on what they’re doing and how they approach it. I know I’ve done both, and defended it on numerous occasions. In that sense, Greenfield’s response could be seen as a bit snobbish, although he also was prepared to accept the idea that they could be both, too.  It’s Wagner’s insistence that they aren’t advocates at all that put that smirk on Greenfield’s face.

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LOL. Alex Wagner is delusional, per usual.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on October 24, 2013 at 3:05 PM

In that sense, Greenfield’s response could be seen as a bit snobbish, although he also was prepared to accept the idea that they could be both, too.

You’re an advocate, and the MSNBC panel are advocates. What Greenfield should have said was that an advocate is not an objective journalist because they have an agenda other than to observe and report.

Daemonocracy on October 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Of course, Jeff Greenfield (D-PBS) had no problems with his and Peter “Baby Milk Factory” Arnett’s CNN “Tailwind” agit-prop.

viking01 on October 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM

As usual MSNBC has all sides covered for a fair and balanced approach …liberal, ultra-libral, bat-sh*t crazy liberal and communist.

The Notorious G.O.P on October 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Who is that bizarre skank? Never heard of her.

Jaibones on October 24, 2013 at 7:38 PM

And with that remark, Jeff Greenfield will never appear on MSNBC ever again.

Challenging the MSNBC groupthink within 30 Rock is like showing Dracula the cross.

Myron Falwell on October 24, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Greenfield is likely a Progressive and liberal as well. He was a speechwriter for Senator Robert F. Kennedy many, many years ago.

Eastwood Ravine on October 24, 2013 at 9:45 PM

So I guess that “Tingles” Mathews is an objective reporter too?

Sabercat2 on October 25, 2013 at 8:28 AM

As usual MSNBC has all sides covered for a fair and balanced approach …liberal, ultra-libral, bat-sh*t crazy liberal and communist.

The Notorious G.O.P on October 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM

They’re getting better. Usually it’s just Socialists and Communists.

Greenfield is likely a Progressive and liberal as well. He was a speechwriter for Senator Robert F. Kennedy many, many years ago.

Eastwood Ravine on October 24, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Not defending Greenfield, but Krauthammer used to be a speechwriter for Walter Mondale.

mankai on October 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM

MSNBC doesn’t do news, so they are all advocates

J_Crater on October 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Too bad Greenfield didn’t have the guts to way “You’re all King Barack’s whores. All we’re haggling about right now is the price.”

GarandFan on October 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM