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Two more top Pentagon officers cashiered this week?

posted at 1:09 pm on October 11, 2013 by

ABC News reports that the general in charge of the Air Force’s nuclear weapons has just been fired:

The Air Force’s two star general in charge of the wing responsible for its 450 nuclear missiles has been fired, a defense official confirmed to ABC News.

Maj. Gen. Michael Carey is being removed from command of the 20th Air Force, the official said.  That command is responsible for the three wings that maintain control of the 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles scattered in missile silos across the northern plains.

Lt. Gen. James Kowalski, the commander of Air Force Global Strike Command, made the decision because of a “loss of trust and confidence,” according to the official.

Earlier this week, the Pentagon also cashiered Vice Admiral James Giardina, who ran the US Strategic Command.  Giardina had already been suspended during a criminal investigation into the use of counterfeit chips at a casino in Iowa.  It follows the firings of two Marine Corps generals for their failure to adequately secure Camp Bastion in Afghanistan after a Taliban attack resulted in the deaths of two Marines and the loss of a half-dozen aircraft.

That’s four command-rank officers held accountable for their actions in the military since October 1.  When will see anyone fired over the loss of four Americans in Benghazi over a year ago?  Up to now, no one has lost so much as a single paycheck over that grossly negligent failure to protect a consulate on the anniversary of 9/11 in the terrorist haven of eastern Libya.

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Need a fully sharia-compliant military.

Keep voting democrat!

Murphy9 on October 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

That’s four command-rank officers held accountable for their actions in the military since October 1. When will see anyone fired over the loss of four Americans in Benghazi over a year ago? Up to now, no one has lost so much as a single paycheck over that grossly negligent failure to protect a consulate on the anniversary of 9/11 in the terrorist haven of eastern Libya.

Only the military is held accountable in Obama’s administration. Only makes sense since he hates the military. To him, Marines are only good for holding umbrellas.

Bitter Clinger on October 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Need a fully sharia-compliant military.

Murphy9 on October 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

The culling of leadership is one of the scariest and least noticed actions by this president. This could really hurt us.

Fallon on October 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

I am more concerned about the military being stripped of senior officers and replaced by others who may support the presisdent more than their their oath to the country.

polarglen on October 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

I’m not buying into this propaganda! Top echelon brass isn’t just let go for misconduct. That doesn’t happen without a scandal of some sort. There’s something more sinister afoot here! (I’m thinking Stalinist purge)

Boats48 on October 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

The culling of leadership is one of the scariest and least noticed actions by this president. This could really hurt us.

Fallon on October 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

The cashiered marines were reported to have reduced patrols by 70% and placed scarecrows on the walls of the compound where the marines died and the harriers were destroyed. That sure seems like gross negligence to me.

Nobody appears to be contesting that the one fellow was using counterfeit casino chips.

Whatever the personal misbehavior of the other fellow was he has mostly appeared to be grateful that it wasn’t being exposed.

Is it really a “cull” if these people have actually committed the improprieties that lead to their dismissal?

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM

The purge.

GardenGnome on October 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Either we have a serious problem -perhaps conspiratorial- in our General officer corps or Obama is weeding out innocent patriots to replace them with more flexible officers.

Mason on October 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM

I’m not buying into this propaganda! Top echelon brass isn’t just let go for misconduct. That doesn’t happen without a scandal of some sort. There’s something more sinister afoot here! (I’m thinking Stalinist purge)

Boats48 on October 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

You aren’t scandalized that the two marines reduced patrols by 70% and replaced some outlooks with scarecrows shortly before their troops were killed and aircraft destroyed?

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM

I am more concerned about the military being stripped of senior officers and replaced by others who may support the presisdent more than their their oath to the country.

polarglen on October 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Unfortunately, it would seem that once they reach the higher ranks – self-preservation and self-interest take over. If that means buying bio jet fuel at $26 a gallon instead of regular jet fuel at $5 a gallon they’ll do it to keep the REB happy.

Hill60 on October 11, 2013 at 2:34 PM

The culling of leadership

I’m thinking Stalinist purge

Obama is weeding out innocent patriots

The purge.

One of the problems I have with the idea that this is a purge is that nobody is alleging that these were great officers. The marines seemed downright embarrassed about the behavior of their fellows. The other two appear to be leading sloppy lives. Is there a reason we should be keeping them in place?

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM

I don’t think there’s much question that heads should have rolled for the Camp Bastion situation. And our military has enough supernumeraries at the top that we could afford to clean out a few.

But keep your eyes open, cashiering (and jailing) military brass was Erdogan’s path to securing perpetual authority in Turkey, and he seems just like the kind of guy our JEF would see as a role model.

JEM on October 11, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Anyone doubt that the military being created by left will be used to fire on American citizens in the near future

bgibbs1000 on October 11, 2013 at 6:14 PM

One of the problems I have with the idea that this is a purge is that nobody is alleging that these were great officers. The marines seemed downright embarrassed about the behavior of their fellows. The other two appear to be leading sloppy lives. Is there a reason we should be keeping them in place?

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM

You may be right but I don’t trust anything the media says. How do we even know the reports about these officers aren’t total fabrication?

bgibbs1000 on October 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

People might want to read the following article before drawing your own conclusions.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-nuke-commanders-terminated-following-missing-nuclear-warheads-report.html

bgibbs1000 on October 11, 2013 at 6:58 PM

First Josef Stalin purged the NKVD, then he purged the senior military and any political operatives who were suspect. Actually, everyone was suspect. Only the most loyal, ruthless, and nimble survived. After that he had complete control and no one dare oppose him.

I will say that since our military and presumably our intelligence apparatchiks are more docile, it is not necessary to shoot them–as far as we know. They go quietly. The political opposition, being afraid of its own shadow, and prone to circular firing squads, is not a serious concern.

Oldflyer on October 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I am more concerned about the military being stripped of senior officers and replaced by others who may support the presisdent more than their their oath to the country.

polarglen on October 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Unfortunately, it would seem that once they reach the higher ranks – self-preservation and self-interest take over. If that means buying bio jet fuel at $26 a gallon instead of regular jet fuel at $5 a gallon they’ll do it to keep the REB happy.

Hill60 on October 11, 2013 at 2:34 PM

…Bingo!

KOOLAID2 on October 11, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Is it really a “cull” if these people have actually committed the improprieties that lead to their dismissal?

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM

After Stalin finished his purge, did anyone ask that question?

“Uncle Joe had them shot…they were obviously guilty…weren’t they, comrades?”

“DDDDAAAHHHHH!!!!!”

Another famous Hussein did the same thing, only he wasn’t subtle about it.

You might retort “that’ll never happen here….this is America”, but you’ll just join the thousands, nay, millions, who said the same thing in Germany, Iraq, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Albania, etc. And thats just within the 80 years.

Watch the video, and pay attention to the men in that room. Everyone was a corrupt politician. You can tell because they didn’t rush the stage and strangle him right there on the spot. They were cowards, and spent that afternoon deciding if they were gonna die, or give in.

Very much like the GOP is now.

BobMbx on October 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Flag level officers serve the CinC, that’s the way it works with civilian control of the military. Obama can fire whoever he wants for any reason or none at all.

Elections matter. Somebody tell all those “true conservatives” who didn’t vote for Romney to “send a message” that we got the message, all right: they are undependable allies who should be scorned and blamed.

Adjoran on October 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Many in the military at all ranks are leaving voluntarily because of Obummer’s disasterous policies. I thank the Lord that my husband retired pre-Obummer and hope he will never have to be called up. His best friend (who recently retired rather than take a probable promotion to general) tells us that things have changed so much that my husband wouldn’t recognize the army any more.

sherrimae on October 11, 2013 at 9:13 PM

You may be right but I don’t trust anything the media says. How do we even know the reports about these officers aren’t total fabrication?

bgibbs1000 on October 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

There is a sort of radical skepticism – in the philosophy textbook sense of those words rather than the political – at play that makes it really difficult to provide any evidence one way or the other. Media accounts could be fabricated, inspection reports could be fabricated, and even their own personal admissions could be compelled. At that point it becomes more a question of what evidence – if any – you would accept. It’s even possible that they could be absolutely guilty of negligence or misconduct but their removal was only pursued to remove them for nefarious reasons. I think it all enters the realm of faith at that point.

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Flag level officers serve the CinC, that’s the way it works with civilian control of the military. Obama can fire whoever he wants for any reason or none at all.

Adjoran on October 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Really, Romneybot? Generals take a different oath that doesn’t involve protecting the Constitution? Good to know…. if it bore any resemblance to the truth.

SDN on October 11, 2013 at 9:50 PM

This really is starting to look like a purge…I don’t ever remember seeing this many senior officers forcibly retired or fired during any administration I’ve lived through. This administration has clearly politicized all other branches of the Federal Government and the Military Officer Corps has historically been the most Conservative of the group.

Notice, as well, that they are all sub-JCS level officers.

It looks bad…and I’ve learned with this administration, that whatever dark thoughts you may have about what is going on, is probably just the half of it.

AUINSC on October 11, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I’m not buying into this propaganda! Top echelon brass isn’t just let go for misconduct. That doesn’t happen without a scandal of some sort. There’s something more sinister afoot here! (I’m thinking Stalinist purge)

Boats48 on October 11, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Maybe they were canned because they won’t agree to fire on Americans. Litmus test, you know.

The Rogue Tomato on October 12, 2013 at 6:37 AM

Camp Bastion was operated by the Brits. Now, are we to accede to them or just do what we know needs to be done? That is just one of many problems associated with placing American troops under foreign control.
Oh, and since we’re in a firing mode, where the he!! is the Carrier Group Commander who wanted to rescue those intrepid warriors in Benghazi, but was told to “stand down” and quit beechin’!?
Hagel must go and he must go now, along with all of the ‘Chief Joints’.
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Karl Magnus on October 12, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Only the military is held accountable in Obama’s administration. Only makes sense since he hates the military. To him, Marines are only good for holding umbrellas.

Bitter Clinger on October 11, 2013 at 1:16 PM

We are witnessing a Stalinist purge. I guess on the UP side, if there IS one, they won’t be put up against a wall and mowed down by Kalashnikovs.
(assuming they don’t travel to Mess’ko of course)
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on October 12, 2013 at 8:57 AM

You aren’t scandalized that the two marines reduced patrols by 70% and replaced some outlooks with scarecrows shortly before their troops were killed and aircraft destroyed?

dieudonne on October 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM

I’m scandalized that those generals pleaded for more security forces amidst Obama’s reduction of forces order and were rejected. I think it is shocking that two Marine two-stars were sacked for the same “incident” so publicly. I’m scandalized that they were sacked by the Marine Commandant Gen. Amos, who stands accused of illegal command influence in a criminal court martial, and that Amos has punished his chief accuser, a Marine Major and lawyer. That sounds worse to me than fake gambling chips.
But what’s more scandalizing is that FOUR general/flag officers were PUBLICLY booted in less than a month and during the time that a 20 year senior Air Force Sergeant was kicked out of the service by his lesbian commander for refusing to SUPPORT gay marriage, and use the government shutdown to deny catholic sailors from celebrating Mass. One of the foundations of progressivism is big government and having the military as well as the IRS, Homeland Security, NSA etc. serve the PROGRESSIVE government is paramount.

cartooner on October 12, 2013 at 10:34 AM

I think it is shocking that two Marine two-stars were sacked for the same “incident” so publicly. I’m scandalized that they were sacked by the Marine Commandant Gen. Amos, who stands accused of illegal command influence in a criminal court martial, and that Amos has punished his chief accuser, a Marine Major and lawyer. That sounds worse to me than fake gambling chips. – cartooner on October 12, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Amen, Brother. The United States Military is nothing more than a pawn for the ChiTøwn Cløwn. I wonder how many days King Barry would have lasted in this man’s Army? I would volunteer to again be waterboarded if that poseur and his *ussy pals would too – the way it used to be done!
(forget the wimpy YouTube vids, it was a lot more brutal than simply “four-pointing”)
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on October 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Obama and leftists know, just like throughout history, that you have to purge the military and replace it with people who will be willing to kill the citizenry upon order.

Some day, maybe not for some years, the Left will be able to use the military for the final push as other dictators of the Left have done.

This has been going on full-blown for some years.

And if the GOP takes back the White House, WE MUST REVERSE IT ALL and bring back to stength a military of Americans who believe in limited government and one that will not decimate American civilians if domestic tension rises.

KirknBurker on October 12, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Each of these removals seems reasonable when considered individually. So many taking place so rapidly… well it’s certainly unusual.

While I see no reason to panic, I think it is worth taking note and being more observant of personnel changes in the military for awhile.

Has there been any significant turnover or removal at the regimental level?

Sackett on October 13, 2013 at 12:41 AM

Our military is increasingly led by officers who perjured themselves when they took their oath of office.

Ceteris Paribus on October 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM

fabrications ? You mean like those fake MIA/body-remains flights to Hawaii ??

/memory-hole is right over there
/.

CaveatEmpty on October 13, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I am more concerned about the military being stripped of senior officers and replaced by others who may support the presisdent more than their their oath to the country.
polarglen on October 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Is the President putting in place those who will go along with an unjustified implementation of martial law? Is Obama’s refusal to accept any solution to the CR and debt ceiling, going to be his pretext for precipitating a fiscal crisis, as a pretext to declare martial law? Is the acquisition by federal law enforcement, of two billion rounds of small arms ammunition, and armored vehicles, really meant for use against the American people? Will this government open fire on its own citizens, or will those ordered to do so refuse that order, and honor their oath, which is to protect and defend the Constitution, not a corrupt government?

kjatexas on October 13, 2013 at 5:17 PM

How do you get rid on an incompetent CIC?

That’s a peach of a question.

profitsbeard on October 13, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Barrycades … … Barack Bars … … sounds like Allah Akbar.

VorDaj on October 13, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Our military is increasingly led by officers who perjured themselves when they took their oath of office.

Ceteris Paribus on October 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM

And the more they perjured themselves the higher they rise.

VorDaj on October 13, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Some of you didn’t even read the article. Using counterfeit chips in casinos is some sort of well planned plot to purge a general who won’t fire on civilians??? I can’t help but laugh at the utter stupidity of that line of thought.
As for the other – he was relieved of command by the 3 star general who is his boss – unless they are a four star they are as likely to be known by the president as any of the commenters are.

Bradky on October 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Some of you would find a conspiracy in a bag of doritos….

Bradky on October 13, 2013 at 9:58 PM

@Bradky: Would that be Cool Ranch or Nacho Cheese Doritos?

kjatexas on October 14, 2013 at 8:31 AM

@TheRogueTomato: if you remember, during the Clinton Administration, a questionnaire asking those in the military, if they would fire on fellow Americans, made the rounds amongst the troops. When it was discovered and reported on, the administration said it was just part of one officer’s graduate school thesis. I read recently that a similar questionnaire was again making the rounds in the military. So, is a purge, by the Obama administration, of politically “unreliable” officers, such a far fetched idea? History is full of such incidents, so why couldn’t it happen in the US?

kjatexas on October 14, 2013 at 8:46 AM