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California: Zero Obamacare enrollments so far

posted at 11:56 am on October 4, 2013 by

The perfect follow-up to Ed and AP’s posts from yesterday, with a special focus on the humiliating stats-padding fact-check MKH wrote about on Tuesday (via NRO):

Clearly, California’s obstructionist Republicans must be responsible for these hiccups. And in all fairness to state officials, they’ve only had three-and-a-half years since passage to train navigators and launch a functioning website.  That they failed to execute either task is a side note; Californians should rest assured that the government will administer their healthcare in a professional, prompt and competent manner.

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This was totally expected and only reflects on the awesomeness of the system. Californians, like most Americans, are just so excited about the new law (and unicorns) that they’re overwhelming the system. And I bet that no one wants to be the first. There is a sense of fairness and “hey, friend, you go first” in the air that is an extension of the caring exhibited in the law itself.

Zero enrollees or zero selfish Californians? You decide.

/Kathleen Orwell Sebelius

mankai on October 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM

In a sane world, this would be front page news of every news outlet in the country. Instead, we’re treated to the American version of Nork TV.

crrr6 on October 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM

We need everybody to come to the table.
~Bill Clinton

txhsmom on October 4, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Yeah but Gov Moonbeam just gave illegals drivers licenses so they can have voter ID in the next election. So its not all bad news in flaky Ca.

neyney on October 4, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Well well, I guess I’m going to have to contact my liberal friends (the ones I haven’t spoken to in years) in Ca and tell them to get off their duffs.

MontanaMmmm on October 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM

It’s like buying airplane tickets from Priceline.com or Kayak waiting in line at the DMV.

blammm on October 4, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Speaking of train wrecks, it’s full speed ahead with our bullet train. One of our greatest boondoggles ever.

newportmike on October 4, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Did the federal government shut down the internet in CA?

gwelf on October 4, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Good News!

Jerry Brown signed a bill yesterday to expose the people doing the inplementation!

In the process of funding the Ca exchange, the Ca government violated public disclosure laws regarding the entire process of signing ANY State contract with a third party.

Jerry Brown could not just ‘release the SECRET contract details’ without someone asking WHY he had violated the law. Brown and the Democrats in the legislature, decided to stage a new signing ceremony to pretend there was no such disclosure law.

I suspect they will continue to obfiscate the entire process of selecting the vendor and go strait to not actually releasing the details of the 500+ million they have spent.

Freddy on October 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM

PS: Rumor has it that Covered California was entirely outsourced to India.

Freddy on October 4, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Oh dear. Chad Henderson may be a big fat liar.

http://reason.com/archives/2013/10/04/obamacare-chad-henderson-father

NotCoach on October 4, 2013 at 1:24 PM

I checked it out. They quoted $14K /year for our family for the same doctor (silver plan). No thanks.

Paul_W on October 4, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Ok, why can’t I get the audio to work on my damn Apple computer for this video?

SC.Charlie on October 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM

If Republicans would just get out of the darn way, I really think Obamacare would fall on its own accord. It is a total mess and always will be.

SC.Charlie on October 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I wonder here. Obamacare can’t be so screwed up that literally no one has been able to sign up, right? Surely, aside from this OFA volunteer who appears to be lying through his teeth about it–surely someone, somewhere would have started manually signing people up at least.

It’s Oct 4th. No one can get on the pages. That’s simply amazing.

Can it really be gross incompetence at that level? Or does Obama not want anyone to sign up?

I say to myself: There are two choices. 1) it’s this incompetent. 2) It is deliberate.

Let’s look at incompetence. I understand deadlines, delays slipping. But 4 days late with no–no! progress made? Simcity 5, other clusterfarks, have all made some progress, or at least sometimes the systems worked for some people. Obamacare? Nothing. The longer this goes on, the longer it is baffling that the IT guys wouldn’t have pressed for a delay. Especially since the heavy promotion meant a huge crush. But the system does not function at all–it’s just not ready. It’s not even in beta stage.

2) This had to have been known to the top, and a long time ago. Why would Obama fall so spectacularly on his face like this?

3) Intriguing question: Obamacare as it currently stands, is dead. Republicans don’t have to kill it, it’s dead. Until they get it actually running, Obamacare doesn’t exist as far as signing up. Are the techies who are supposed to fix this furloughed? If so, keep the government shut down!

Vanceone on October 4, 2013 at 1:54 PM

It’s not just California’s state exchanges, but also Tennessee which opted out of state run insurance management. I have not been able to get very far even in the “compare process” let alone signing up, and from what a local talk radio station program this morning was saying that very few Tennessee residents get very far before the gateway times out, you get a 404 error, or the site just hangs with messages like please wait.

On the not so bright side, once I signed up for an Obamacare account, I started getting spam from OFA, the White House, and the DNC.

So much for privacy and website security.

simkeith on October 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM

In other news, there was a moldy ham and cheese sandwich on I-5, and no one stopped their car and took a bite.

Ted Torgerson on October 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Speaking of train wrecks, it’s full speed ahead with our bullet train. One of our greatest boondoggles ever.

newportmike on October 4, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Not just yet. Construction originally was scheduled to begin at the end of 2012. Then early 2013. Then July. Then late summer. It just pushed again. Likely won’t being this year at all now. Seems the CA High Speed Rail Authority has even purchased all the land needed for the first 30 mile-stretch on which construction has been scheduled rescheduled rescheduled and rescheduled currently not scheduled to begin.

de rigueur on October 4, 2013 at 2:00 PM

That they can’t get a simple website to work portends wonderful things from government-supplied health care.

“I went in for a heart bypass and got a lobotomy instead.”

Bitter Clinger on October 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM

I finally got registered on the federal exchange site! …..and then it sent me a confirmation link to my email, which wouldn’t work for a couple hours and then said “sorry your time to confirm your new account has expired, please return to the registration home page.”

I believe that’s 4 different ways the federal site has broken down for me in the registration process, still have never gotten anywhere near the “compare plans and (inflated because I’m a young healthy male) prices” phase.

LukeinNE on October 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Your best bet in California would be to get a fake Mexican driver’s license and show up at the emergency room when you need any major care. No premiums, no deductibles.

Annar on October 4, 2013 at 2:30 PM

California’s recent EDD (unemployment) computer upgrade is a clear demonstration of government ‘efficiency’ that inspires much confidence…

The EDD continues to work through a subset of certifications for ongoing unemployment benefits that will require some lengthier, one-time manual processing. We ask for the patience of our customers as we work through the necessary transition to a new, more efficient payment processing system. We are working to process all certifications received and notices will be sent to customers to confirm that we have received their certification(s).

I also love spending an hour filling out the online unemployment application form only to have it freeze then redirect me back to the home page. That one is my favorite.

And the recently redesigned CalJOBS site isn’t much better.

Making job seekers spend hours ‘building a resume’ when a simple .pdf upload takes 10 seconds. It’s fine for people who don’t already have a resume but for the other 99% of us it’s a waste of valuable time.

The Ugly American on October 4, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Some of the libs tried to say that the problems were only in the Republican states that wouldn’t implement their own exchanges. There goes that theory.

Week one is over. We deserve a full accounting of the number of new enrollees in each of the states. Not the people who were directed to Medicaid, the number who successfully purchased insurance. We also need a breakdown of how many of the enrollees were subsidized. After all, this is quite a triumph for the administration and it’s the most transparent administration in history, right?

Maybe someone can FOIA it…

obladioblada on October 4, 2013 at 3:59 PM

CA EXCHANGE DIRECTOR SEZ: “WE HAVE THE WIND AT OUR BACK!”

This is a day where millions of people’s dreams are coming true. People have been working for dozens and dozens of years for this. … In some states, they’re sailing upwind [in terms of implementing the Affordable Care Act]. In California, we have the wind at our back, to make sure Californians get the coverage they need and deserve. — Peter Lee, Executive Director of Covered California (the California Obamacare exchange).

de rigueur on October 4, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Why can’t these moron Rs use this – and RUN THIS UP THE FLAG POLE for the American people.
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Boehner is derelict here. An utter failure of the roll out of this CELEBRITY BALLYHOOED single payer scam- a plethora jeffe of alterations to the LAW- by the Marxist in Chief -AND NOW pulling the website offline??
why do you think they are doing this people? Maintenance?
How stupid can people be?

AND THESE Rs CAN’T GET THIS FAILURE OF HOPEYCARE ON PAGE ONE ?
Cruz and Lee should be ATTACKING ON THIS, not bantering.

WTF?
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Guy – THIS is your evidence for a conviction–and support the “told you so” conservative argument – it’s NewsFlash time !!, tell someone to go find the highest mountain. Stat.

FlaMurph on October 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM

“I went in for a heart bypass and got a lobotomy instead.”

Bitter Clinger on October 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM

…routine surgery for democrats

KOOLAID2 on October 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Californians should rest assured that the government will administer their healthcare in a professional, prompt and competent manner.

Actually, Jerry Brown and the Cal legislature decided to contract out the creation of the Cal system to ‘super secret parties’ who are so above reproach that they did not tell anyone who they are, how much they spent, or even WHERE they spent that money.

Even the actual location of the servers is a state secret.

Everyone expects nothing but the best!

Freddy on October 7, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Be sure to check the Terms and Conditions of any exchange website you enter. In Idaho, you have to give up the right to copy any website information without prior written authorization. So you can’t send screen shots or cost quotes to anyone. So much for the ability to “debate and disagree” when you can’t share the evidence with anyone without violating terms.

Idaho’s exchange sends small business owners to the healthcare.gov site, which sends them right back. But we HAVE to enroll on the exchange in order to qualify for the tax credit. Which means we HAVE to give up the chance to show anyone else how bad the sites are.

Oh, and there’s implied consent; they don’t make you click on the Terms and Conditions much less read it.

spudmom on October 7, 2013 at 6:28 PM