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Video: NYPD wounds two bystanders after shooting at unarmed man

posted at 11:55 am on September 15, 2013 by

Two NYPD police officers attempted to shoot a man who rushed into traffic and then pantomimed shooting at them, but ended up wounding two bystanders in the crowded area instead. They ended up subduing the erratic suspect with a Taser instead:

Police opened fire on an agitated man darting in front of cars in New York’s Times Square, wounding two women instead.

The incident took place late Saturday night — a time when the popular destination is bustling with tourists.

The women ages 54 and 35 were taken to a hospital. A bullet hit one on the right knee while the other one suffered a wound to her buttocks, police said.

After the two officers fired three shoots in an attempt to subdue the man, and missed, they struck him with a Taser, authorities said. He was later taken to the hospital as “an emotionally disturbed person.”

One of the issues I have with films and TV shows with police shootouts is the wild shooting in which cops are depicted engaging. They are supposed to be trained to refrain from firing into crowded areas, but apparently life imitated art, at least in this instance. I suspect that these two may spend a lot of time at a desk after this — or perhaps more likely, looking for another line of work.

What makes this story more fascinating is that Twitter reported it in real time. Twitchy aggregated the tweets, and this is the one that grabbed the network’s attention:

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It wasn’t all that long ago when this happened either.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/25/nypd-shooting-bystander-victims-hit-by-police-gunfire/

You would sure think their training would include a little more target recognition and fire discipline.

fourdeucer on September 15, 2013 at 12:09 PM

But I thought Bloomie had imposed the Fife Rule on his flying monkeys … And since when does anybody in NYC give a flying attempt at coitus about pedestrians in traffic?

M240H on September 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM

What? Were there no dogs around to shoot instead?

Oh well, those two women probably were gonna commit a crime anyway, drink a large soda, or put some salt on their food

LegendHasIt on September 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Taser first THEN bullets?

Yeah, it’s easy for me to second guess especially just based on this sketchy report. I guess they thought he had a gun?

SteveMG on September 15, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Maybe they thought the woman with the walker was Christoper Dorner.

Mark1971 on September 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM

One of the issues I have with films and TV shows with police shootouts is the wild shooting in which cops are depicted engaging. They are supposed to be trained to refrain from firing into crowded areas, but apparently life imitated art, at least in this instance.

They all think they’re Harry Callahans, now.

There’s only one Harry Callahan!

Dusty on September 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Just for clarification, the incident didn’t happen in Times Square, it happened in front of the Port Authority Bus Terminal, which, even after the crime reductions, still qualifies for Obi-wan’s line about the Mos Eisley Spaceport in “Star Wars” — “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious…” (This statement’s even more accurate in the past decade, since The New York Times relocated its headquarters from just off Times Square to across the street from the Port Authority).

That doesn’t excuse the two officers from being trigger-happy, but the regulars who hang out around the bus terminal would tend to make the cops more anxious, even compared to the normal denizens of Times Square.

jon1979 on September 15, 2013 at 1:31 PM

How could this have happened?
I thought the “highly trained and skilled” police were the ONLY people the Dems think can be trusted to properly handle guns….

dentarthurdent on September 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM

They shot a 54 year old woman… on a walker.

Do they get a bonus for that?

Wendya on September 15, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Pretty pathetic. The decision to shoot doesn’t seem to be the problem — visibly disturbed guy goes for his pocket and “pantomimes” drawing and shooting at the cops: ok, you can be forgiven for not going for the Taser. It’s the crap marksmanship and discipline that’s the problem.

Q: Why does the NYPD suck so bad? Any number of private citizen, CCW permit holders who practice semi-regularly could do better than that. Think of the guy at the Oregon mall who stopped the would-be mass shooter.

Two suggestions for why. One, judicial activist doctrines like “qualified immunity” for cops are applied in ways that are completely out of control, so cops don’t have any incentives to care about whom they hurt. Conservatives must join up with liberals to reduce or eliminate “qualified immunity” for cops, and appoint judges who are willing to jail, fine, and uphold civil liability against cops who deserve it. Two, the broader culture of legitimate handgun use has been almost completely destroyed by gun control laws in NY state, so cops arrive at the academy knowing nothing about shooting.

P.M. on September 15, 2013 at 2:41 PM

was the perp in possession of a 64 oz Big Gulp? a contraband salt shaker?…..Oh, it was a fictitious gun?! All the more reason to ban them, both real and fictitious…../////
RT@NannyBloomberg

ted c on September 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM

They shot a 54 year old woman… on a walker.

Do they get a bonus for that?

Wendya on September 15, 2013 at 2:24 PM

that’s like “GAME OVER” on most 1st person shooter games, right?

ted c on September 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM

I’m not seeing a shred of evidence to suggest that NYPD is trained in weapon discipline of any form. They’re trained to be paranoid and reckless. Think there’s a chance of a weapon, draw and fire. Guy in his apartment a suspect or POI, just send a breach team, no need to ask questions, might not even require a warrant if someone says drugs. Got a Yorkshire terrier, good, we need a new backstop.

PXCharon on September 15, 2013 at 3:35 PM

…remember when they shot 6 or 7? people in the spring…chasing one guy!

KOOLAID2 on September 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Maybe they should take the guns from the police and let the citizens be armed instead.

ProfShadow on September 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM

My wife the retired cop is livid, but I just tell her “Hey, officer safety is primary!”

Is anyone else reminded of the shootouts in Fearless Fosdick?

PersonFromPorlock on September 15, 2013 at 6:31 PM

1)What caliber weapon did the Perp pantomime shooting? Did it have over an imaginary 10 rd magazine? Did he have a permit for this imaginary weapon?
2) I think the two persons shot had been identified as TEA Party members according to the NSA/DHS so they were security risks.

JFKY on September 15, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Looks like the NRA could help NYPD with some of their gun safety courses. This is not the first time that the NYPD manages to blast everyone but the suspect they were aiming for.

But Bloomberg demands gun control….how about start with the NYPD.

William Eaton on September 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

What? Were there no dogs around to shoot instead?

Oh well, those two women probably were gonna commit a crime anyway, drink a large soda, or put some salt on their food

LegendHasIt on September 15, 2013 at 12:23 PM

No kidding. It’s almost like they use dogs for target shooting.

changer1701 on September 15, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Hey, that assault finger might have been loaded. They’re just lucky he didn’t have a piece of fruit on him. Then they really would have been in trouble.

Rip Ford on September 16, 2013 at 2:26 AM

Ask Commissioner Kelly, and he’ll tell you that only police officers are responsible enough, competent enough, and trained enough, to carry firearms. Regular citizens certainly cannot be trusted to carry firearms. Let’s see, first the NYPD shot bystanders in front of the Empire State building, and now this incident. How’s that remedial firearms training going, Mr. Kelly.

kjatexas on September 16, 2013 at 8:44 AM

I suspect that these two may spend a lot of time at a desk after this — or perhaps more likely, looking for another line of work.

You’re kidding – right Ed? These guys are union – I expect they’ll remain employed, get their annual reviews/raises and retire with full pension benefits.

Hill60 on September 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Another good point I saw made on another site:

NYPD cops are issued Glock 19s, which are perfectly good pistols in stock configuration. But the nanny state administration mandates — for “safety’s sake” — that NYPD Glocks come with a HORRENDOUS, artificially heavy trigger pull installed, of around 12 lbs.

What a great idea for a gun to issue to cops in crowded NYC, who by definition are almost always going to be shooting with innocent citizens present.

Just one more reason they can’t hit squat.

P.M. on September 16, 2013 at 11:24 AM