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DC muggers to victim: “This is for Trayvon Martin”

posted at 7:56 am on July 29, 2013 by

The national healing continues apace:

A Bethesda man was beaten and robbed early Saturday morning in Adams Morgan by three men who yelled, “This is for Trayvon Martin,” before attacking him, police said.  The incident is being investigated as a hate crime and robbery, according to D.C. police spokesman Araz Alali.  Three black men approached an adult white male from behind while he was walking in the 1700 block of Euclid Street NW at 1:26 a.m. Saturday, police said. Two of the men threw the victim to the ground and kicked him, Alali said. The three perpetrators then took the victim’s iPhone and wallet and fled.

This smacks of common criminals exploiting a racially-divisive event to “justify” crimes they would have committed anyway.  Nevertheless, as the legacy media instructs the rest of us to examine our hearts on race issues, perhaps some introspection is in order for our moral betters.  Might they consider the role they’ve played in stoking the Zimmerman fire with half-truths and outright lies?  By the way, how’s the big “national conversation on race” going so far?

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Even though I am a Caucasian Male, can I now rob Fort Knox and say it was “Justice for Trayvon”? Just checking where the DOJ, NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, Sharpton. Jackson…et al, might get involved in the “Conversation”.

Sabercat2 on July 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM

That Breitbart link is unbelievable. When a Lefty reads that, what goes through their mind? I can only wonder.

visions on July 29, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Attacking a man because he is white?

Trayvon would approve.

18-1 on July 29, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Tingles and wolfie will be reporting this right away
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cmsinaz on July 29, 2013 at 8:27 AM

When a Lefty reads that, what goes through their mind?

visions on July 29, 2013 at 8:20 AM

You’re assuming they have one.

bigmacdaddy on July 29, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Attacking a man because he is white?

Trayvon would approve.

18-1 on July 29, 2013 at 8:20 AM

He might not have approved of the “approached from behind” bit though. That would seem a little gay to a black teen homophobe.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Related: Man charged with attempted murder for defending himself on his own property. Black teen was just minding his own business breaking into properties don’t ya know.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Only an idiot or a liberal walks around alone in DC in the middle of the night. You are just asking for it even without justice for Trayvon. You can walk around Northern Virginia any time of the day or night with little risk because there are way fewer bad guys who want to play Russian Roulette with a Virginian.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Libfree? Righty45? Capitalist Hog? Comments, please!

By which I mean, a freakin’ APOLOGY.

Maddie on July 29, 2013 at 8:55 AM

“There is no pattern in these types of crimes. . .” Alali said.

But the pattern of Zimmerman’s racist past was well documented and sufficient to prove discriminatory intent.

blammm on July 29, 2013 at 8:55 AM

~coach:

All self defense laws require that you are threatened with death or bodily harm before using deadly force. When the bad guy is outside your house the conditions aren’t met and so yes indeed he committed a crime. He saw him coming and should have waited for him to breach the house’s perimeter before shooting him.

Note: Texas is the exception. You can use deadly force to protect your property.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 8:59 AM

All self defense laws require that you are threatened with death or bodily harm before using deadly force.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 8:59 AM

The above is not correct. From Louisiana law at the link I provided:

“When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.”

And this is a gated and secured property. The intruder wasn’t crossing a lawn, he scaled a gate.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Even though I am a Caucasian Male, can I now rob Fort Knox and say it was “Justice for Trayvon”? Just checking where the DOJ, NAACP, Black Congressional Caucus, Sharpton. Jackson…et al, might get involved in the “Conversation”.

Sabercat2 on July 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM

They have already spoken. This is justice for Trayvon. And no you can’t rob Fort Knox, but now as long as you’re not white you can try. It’s okay, it won’t get any coverage.

onomo on July 29, 2013 at 9:11 AM

All self defense laws require that you are threatened with death or bodily harm before using deadly force.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 8:59 AM

The above is not correct.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Exactly. This is a subjective test, rather than an objective one. Precisely the reason why Bernie Goetz was acquitted.

blammm on July 29, 2013 at 9:14 AM

~coach:

Crossing a gate does not threaten you with imminent death and bodily harm. The homeowner was not under a direct threat at the moment he fired. That is the test, Texas excepted, even under
Stand Your Ground Laws. I hope you do not normally carry a firearm because you are going to go jail eventually because you don’t understand the law.

And Blammm, Goetz was under direct threat from his attackers. He didn’t shoot them before they entered the subway car. That latter would be the equivalent of this case.

The blog The Truth About Guns has what they call the “Irresponsible Gun Owner of the Day award. I think both of you guys are good candidates for receiving the trophy.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM

I was talking about Goetz’s historical perspective and how that impacted his personal self-defense mentality. He had been the victim of an earlier attempted robbery. When he was told “Give me 5 dollars,” the milquetoast Goetz “reasonably believed” that he was being robbed in light of his past experience, even though a generic “reasonable person” might not have thought if assessed objectively.

blammm on July 29, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Too bad the same black crowd can’t work up some emotion over this:

In the time that the Zimmerman trial was going on there were sixty-one murders in Chicago, forty-three of them were black males and seven of those black males were under the age of 18, most of them died from gunshot wounds, all violent, all senseless. Do Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson just not care as much about the black male population of Chicago or is it that they just can’t garner as much media attention there?

Speaking of media attention, a young white couple, students at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, was carjacked, raped, tortured and murdered.

The young man, Christopher Newsome, was raped and beaten, then castrated, shot, his body dumped by train tracks and set on fire while his girlfriend, Channon Christian, was forced to watch.

Channon was gang raped over a period of days, her breasts cut off while she was still alive, then had cleaning fluid sprayed in her mouth in an attempt to erase the traces of DNA and her body put into a garbage receptacle.

Maybe you’re wondering why you haven’t heard about this inhuman crime, perhaps you think your local paper didn’t had time to cover it yet.

I seriously doubt that, since the crime took place in August of 2006, and of your local news outlets, most probably never covered it. I live about 150 miles from where it took place and, to the everlasting shame of networks and the local news media I didn’t hear about it either until somebody brought my attention to it on the internet.

How could a crime this heinous, this inhuman, this completely evil escape the notice of the mass media and the talking heads who are always screaming for equal justice under the law?

Simple, it doesn’t fit their agenda, the perpetrators were all black, all five of them. If this wasn’t a case of blatant racism, I truly don’t know what is. Do you honestly believe there wasn’t racial bias involved in the choosing of the victims and the malicious violence that was done to them, and yet this story, one of the most hideous murders of the decade, was not covered by the media and was completely ignored by the so called civil rights leaders of all colors.

http://cnsnews.com/commentary/charlie-daniels/aftermath-agendas-making-trayvon-martins-tragedy-far-worse

These race baiters and willing hoodlums tend to be blind in their quest for “justice”.

avagreen on July 29, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Crossing a gate does not threaten you with imminent death and bodily harm. The homeowner was not under a direct threat at the moment he fired. That is the test, Texas excepted, even under
Stand Your Ground Laws. I hope you do not normally carry a firearm because you are going to go jail eventually because you don’t understand the law.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Seriously dude, you’re an imbecile. Based on the facts we know right now about this case it is a clear case of self defense. Read the link I provided. Branca is no dummy, and he is a lawyer himself.

The blog The Truth About Guns has what they call the “Irresponsible Gun Owner of the Day award. I think both of you guys are good candidates for receiving the trophy.

Go Fluke yourself. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, but you desperately want others to believe you do. Read the following and learn something.

Yoshihiro Hattori

There is no doubt in my mind Hattori had no ill will against the property owner in the above link, but self defense law doesn’t care about that. It only concerns itself with what a shooter’s reasonable beliefs in a given situation are.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 9:38 AM

D.C. police spokesman Araz Alali.

Inshallah

faraway on July 29, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Crossing a gate does not threaten you with imminent death and bodily harm. The homeowner was not under a direct threat at the moment he fired. That is the test, Texas excepted, even under
Stand Your Ground Laws. I hope you do not normally carry a firearm because you are going to go jail eventually because you don’t understand the law.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Castle doctrine usually applies to the curtilage of the property.

blammm on July 29, 2013 at 9:56 AM

DC muggers to victim: “This is for Trayvon Martin”

Same thing happened in Baltimore to a Hispanic man.

Baltimore police say they are investigating a witness account that a group of black youths beat a Hispanic man near Patterson Park Sunday while saying, “This is for Trayvon.”

Of course, the media is silent.

Patriot Vet on July 29, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Of course, the media is silent.

Patriot Vet on July 29, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Of course, the GOP is silent. Corpses are that way.

faraway on July 29, 2013 at 10:06 AM

has justice been achieved yet? Did these street judges extract enough blood from the man? please let us know when street justice has had enough….

ted c on July 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM

That Breitbart link is unbelievable. When a Lefty reads that, what goes through their mind? I can only wonder.

visions on July 29, 2013 at 8:20 AM

In listing the media’s significant role in distorting the truth and driving the arrest and indictment of Zimmerman they missed an important one.

March 23, 2012 12:00 AM

Al Sharpton Is Right

George Zimmerman should be charged.

By Rich Lowry

Note the date and where it falls in Breitbat’s timeline of media fabrications, lies, and distortions. That date is before the infamous NBC edit of the NEN call and the same day as Comrade O’s “my son Trayvon” speech.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I’m really looking forward to one of these animals saying “This is for Trayvon Martin” while assaulting someone…and their victim responding “This is for George Zimmerman” before blowing their goddamned head off.

MadisonConservative on July 29, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Only an idiot or a liberal walks around alone in DC in the middle of the night. You are just asking for it…

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Blaming the victim. How cowardly.

MadisonConservative on July 29, 2013 at 10:19 AM

Way to honor Trayvon, libs.

The Rogue Tomato on July 29, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Hmmm, it will be interesting what they say if they are caught. Which I’m not very optimistic about.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Maybe Obama will succeed where Charles Manson failed – starting a race war.

Ward Cleaver on July 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM

This smacks of common criminals exploiting a racially-divisive event to “justify” crimes they would have committed anyway.

Maybe. Maybe not. Hard to say.

On the other hand, their assaults on “crackas” may always be in part racially motivated.

Given the black grievance coalition’s continuous and constant loud drum beat about racism, white privilege, and the oppression of blacks, who is to say?

Not enough info to say either way.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 10:54 AM

~coach.

Look dummy, I read what happened. There was a physical barrier between the intruder, who did not as yet display a weapon, and the homeowner. The legal rules of engagement state that the threat to your life must be immediate. There is no way that the homeowner could have met this requirement when he is in the house the intruder who has not displayed a weapon is in the yard. Self defense law does not allow you shoot someone who is not in an immediate position to threaten your life. So, dummy if you hold a CHL you better go back and take a refresher course on the legal rules of engagement in your state before you run your mouth. Morons like you just give ammunition to gun grabbers to point out how stupid and dangerous gun owners are. So until you get yourself educated shut your mouth or clearly label your scriblings as uninformed opinion.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:06 AM

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:06 AM

I just read about a case where the intruder was shot trying (had not succeeded) breaking into a house. In order to get to the door, the intruder had to scale a locked enclosure (all caught on video), it will be interesting to see how this pans out after the Zimmerman trial.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 11:11 AM

MC:

Yeah, the victim has some fault because he was stupid. Avoid doing stupid things with stupid people in bad places. Just because you have a right to be somewhere doesn’t mean you should exercise it. Show us how brave (stupid) you are and go down to Southeast DC to exercise your right to be there at 1:00AM.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:12 AM

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Have you read about the Roderick Scott case?

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Cindy:

That’s probably the case we are talking about. I read about it over the weekend. If you have friend who is a lawyer and is knowledgabel about your state’s self defense law (not all are) ask him about it. He is going to tell you that the homeowner broke the law.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Perhaps HA needs to start a ‘Justice for Treyvon’ thread and publish every hate crime against whites and hispanics since the trial ended so that we can get a perspective on what is happening around the nation, because of IDJITS like Sharpton and Jackson and Obama and Holder…

And hold them ALL accountable for the violence against whites and hispanics.

And since the LSM is reluctant to show any editorial responsibility at all to all the killings of blacks by blacks elsewhere…one to cover that also…

It is appalling to know that the ONLY time blacks get outraged is when somthing happens to one of them by a non-black person, where is the fracking outrage at what ‘you all’ do to yourselves eh?

I am SICK TO DEATH of the double standards…

GROW UP BLACK PEOPLE AND BE RESPONSIBLE, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS!!

Scrumpy on July 29, 2013 at 11:20 AM

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Are you being deliberately obtuse? When this man is acquitted (if the facts as currently reported stand up) what will your excuse be then?

So, dummy if you hold a CHL you better go back and take a refresher course on the legal rules of engagement in your state before you run your mouth. Morons like you just give ammunition to gun grabbers to point out how stupid and dangerous gun owners are. So until you get yourself educated shut your mouth or clearly label your scriblings as uninformed opinion.

Your ignorance of the law is astounding, yet I’m the one who is a threat to society.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM

I’m really looking forward to one of these animals saying “This is for Trayvon Martin” while assaulting someone…and their victim responding “This is for George Zimmerman” before blowing their goddamned head off.

MadisonConservative on July 29, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Exactly what I was going to say.

UltimateBob on July 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Maybe, I live in Florida. But I see the SYG laws getting a whole difference viewing in the future. Now the Roderick Scott case is different, kind of a reverse Zimmerman/Scott situation. Same outcome. And in New York, of all places.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Are there “rules of engagement” for criminals who deliberately scale protective fences to enter the private property immediately surrounding occupied urban homes at 2AM? Some rules they can follow to appear non-threatening so they cannot be legally shot, or something?

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:15 AM

So Roderick Scott wasn’t acquitted? I’m not lawyer, but acquittal seems to me to be pretty strong evidence that a crime was not committed.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Sounds like we are about to find out. I don’t hold out much hope for the homeowner after the Zimmerman case though.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 11:37 AM

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Roderick Scott was found not guilty.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Remember how affronted the race baiters were last week because us crackas “profile”the poor black male? How they posed questions like “if you were walking down the street after dark and saw a black male approaching why do you always assume he’s up to no good?” Well because 9 out of 10 times he is. I would suggest that its perfectly fine and sane to assume the worst. This story just reinforces that. I’ll go one further and tell you that if I’m walking down a street after dark and any male be he white, black, or green approaches my hand is on the cc gun Ive got in my pocket. Funny thing is the victim in this case was probably a lib. This state went for Oblammo both elections. Fools

neyney on July 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Are there “rules of engagement” for criminals who deliberately scale protective fences to enter the private property immediately surrounding occupied urban homes at 2AM? Some rules they can follow to appear non-threatening so they cannot be legally shot, or something?

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Ask the legal genius jerryofva who seems to think acquittal is the opposite of not breaking the law.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Roderick Scott was found not guilty.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 11:37 AM

I know that. I was being a bit facetious. Jerryofva is claiming Scott broke the law even though he was acquitted.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Sorry was commenting on the Ballyimore case as well as this when I mentioned stsye

neyney on July 29, 2013 at 11:42 AM

~coach

You want to keep this up? I doubt very much that you even own a gun let alone carry one. I know the law and you obviously don’t. Outside of Texas you don’t get to shoot someone just because he is on your property without him displaying a weapon. So dummy, shut up until know what you are talking about.

And if he is acquitted I call it jury nullification. He clearly broke the law. My guess is that he is not going to be acquitted. He will probably cop a plea.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Roderick Scott was found not guilty.

Cindy Munford on July 29, 2013 at 11:37 AM

And not only was he acquitted, but Scott left his home to confront the criminals before shooting anyone, just like in the Merritt Landry case I linked. Self defense is not contingent upon first cowering under the bed before using violent force.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 11:43 AM

The Scott case is entirely different. He didn’t’ shoot them from the safety of his house. His assailants were within arm’s reach of him. Get your facts straight.

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 11:46 AM

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