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DC muggers to victim: “This is for Trayvon Martin”

posted at 7:56 am on July 29, 2013 by

The national healing continues apace:

A Bethesda man was beaten and robbed early Saturday morning in Adams Morgan by three men who yelled, “This is for Trayvon Martin,” before attacking him, police said.  The incident is being investigated as a hate crime and robbery, according to D.C. police spokesman Araz Alali.  Three black men approached an adult white male from behind while he was walking in the 1700 block of Euclid Street NW at 1:26 a.m. Saturday, police said. Two of the men threw the victim to the ground and kicked him, Alali said. The three perpetrators then took the victim’s iPhone and wallet and fled.

This smacks of common criminals exploiting a racially-divisive event to “justify” crimes they would have committed anyway.  Nevertheless, as the legacy media instructs the rest of us to examine our hearts on race issues, perhaps some introspection is in order for our moral betters.  Might they consider the role they’ve played in stoking the Zimmerman fire with half-truths and outright lies?  By the way, how’s the big “national conversation on race” going so far?

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Let me be clear….

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Someone else says that a lot.

What usually follows when Comrade O says this is a falsehood, or an untruth, or an outright lie.

Or, as in this case, equivocation, backpedaling, attempts to explain away what was said before, qualification of what was said, irrelevancies, etc.

Bottom line, the original comment said that — A few blacks mugging a white guy in DC and saying “this is for Trayvon” is not really a big deal because muggings there are not unusual, and what they say when mugging someone is unimportant because “muggers will be muggers, and you know, “DC is relatively safe” …

And so on and so forth.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM

I’m wondering when UE eventually gets rolled by Obama’s son whether or not he/it will angrily refuse to fork over its beloved gummint cheese.

viking01 on July 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM

And why do people tell us profiling is wrong again?

Vegi on July 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

You were racially profiled as someone who could afford to buy coffee.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 12:40 PM

No coffee, no peace!

James on July 29, 2013 at 2:36 PM

I’m still waiting for the media to report the minority juror as a “black hispanic”. Don’t worry, I won’t hold my breath.

DethMetalCookieMonst on July 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Zimmerman is a punk because, in trying to prove how tough he was, he provoked an altercation he could finish,

The fact free fevered feelings and fantasies of a left-wing elitist fool.

screamed like a little girl and then killed an unarmed kid.

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Apparently the fool concedes it was Zimmerman’s voice screaming for help.

So it disagrees with the prosecution and agrees with all but juror B29, who was unsure whose voice it was. And yet even the highly emotion driven “black Hispanic” juror B29, 35 year old mother of eight, had some moments of clear thinking when she voted “not guilty” and said …

…when Roberts asked “whether the case should have gone to trial,” … answered, “I don’t think so. … I felt like this was a publicity stunt.”

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Mugging are a bad. I am against them. I fantacize about kicking a mugger to death.

Regarding the real question raised by this topic, “has the Zimmerman verdict sparked a race war,” I believe that it has not, because one mugging in an area in which muggings are common does not suggest a post-Zimmy chande in behavior in the Africa American community as a whole. Is that clear?

Finally, as everyone who lives her knows, there is a significant difference between “relatively safe” and “safe.” In addition, people have different comfort levels regarding crime. People who choose to live in an urban area are generally less worried about crime than other people confronted with the same statistics would be, just as peopl who live in Minnesota are less worried about snow and people who live in France are less worried about the French. I feel relatively safe in DC, others may not. There’s no objective standard here.

Anything else?

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM

jerryofva on July 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Branca thought Zimmerman was not only overcharged, but that he should have never been charged. He also has said he did not start following the Martin-Zimmerman case until right before the trial began. He came to that conclusion very quickly once he dug into it.

Branca is still looking for more facts on this case, and is wary of what has been reported because of what happened to Zimmerman. But even at this point he is unequivocal in stating the guy has been over charged. And in the article he began building a case for self-defense against other charges, while citing the applicable statutes.

Considering he entitled his article “Zimmerman Redux: The Breaking Louisiana Self-Defense Case of Merritt Landry”, it seems obvious to me where he stands at the moment, pending the disclosure of further facts and revelations.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Branca thought Zimmerman was not only overcharged, but that he should have never been charged with anything.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Branca thought Zimmerman was not only overcharged, but that he should have never been charged with anything.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Maybe Zimmerman should have been charged with being white while Hispanic.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 2:55 PM

According to the President we should think of ways to “HONOR” Trayvon Martin.

Trayvon Martin assaulted a white man, leading to his death.
He also had stolen goods in his backpack at school earlier.

Therefore randomly assaulting white men and taking their valuables seems to be the best homage to honor Trayvon that I can imagine.

How is this not related? What else was Trayvon known for that people could idolize and honor? The President says to honor him; he’s a thug and a thief; it’s supposed to be racially motivated… I’m at a loss for an alternative that Obama could have meant.

If you’re not mugging white people in order to honor Trayvon, what’s left? Drinking “lean” and getting stoned are possible, but seem less active ways to honor him don’t they?

Or is there some other activity I should know Trayvon for in order to “honor” him? I seem to be missing whatever that important thing is… any hints?

gekkobear on July 29, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Really. As a person of color, I vehemently object. Okay, my color being pink, but anyway. —Regular Right Guy

Mornin Mojo on July 29, 2013 at 3:05 PM

I wouldn’t be too hard on juror B29. It turns out ABC did an edit job on her interview.

NotCoach on July 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM

I read all about that and saw the unedited segment.

Though she was fed the line it’s still not clear to me what she really meant. Giving her the benefit of the doubt she conflated murder with killing. And yet she went for guilty of murder two right after the prosecution’s final emotion filled closing argument and appeal for “Justice for Trayvon!” (TM). That she later finally voted not guilty is to her credit. But it seems it took a lot of persuading from some of the other jurors.

And she also said this…

“As much as we were trying to find this man guilty…

Which is frightening and chilling to me. This is not how a jury is supposed to function. This statement practically presumes guilt.

In the interview she was all over the map in what she said and did a lot of emoting — but not as much as the left-wing elitist troll did here yesterday and today. But even she, as I noted, said at one point there should have never been a trial.

If she is concerned she was misrepresented by ABC’s editing and questions she can have her attorney, who was sitting right next to her throughout the interview, issue a statement that clears up what she thinks and meant to say. AFAIK, she hasn’t done that.

She is a very emotion driven person. She saw the reaction from the mob after the verdict. She is apparently trying to inoculate herself from the harshest criticism (she is the only juror so far willing to show her face) and she may be laying the groundwork for a book. From what I read she could use the money.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Or is there some other activity I should know Trayvon for in order to “honor” him? I seem to be missing whatever that important thing is… any hints?

gekkobear on July 29, 2013 at 3:01 PM

I had some skittles at the movie theater this weekend……does that work? Unfortunately, I didn’t have any cough syrup w/ codeine and iced tea so I didn’t completely honor him.

Ditkaca on July 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM

People who choose to live in an urban area are generally less worried about crime than other people confronted with the same statistics would be…

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Uh-huh. Seems you are speculating.

I grew up in and lived, a lot, in an “urban area”. And in surrounding lower crime rate suburban areas. Between the two it is where I have lived my whole life.

Whenever I have lived in an “urban area” I was always very aware of the relative crime rate of the area I was in compared to other areas, including immediately adjacent areas, areas sometimes only a few blocks away. In some cases survival can depend on the knowledge and awareness of location and relative crime rates and the time of day.

I learned from childhood to have a heightened awareness of exactly where I was at and of what was happening around me when in an “urban area”. An awareness I could ease when living in other lower crime rate areas. In some cases it only mattered at night, and/or on how many people were around on the street, and/or whether you are alone, and/or the day of the week, and so on and so forth.

And I have known people from small towns who assumed some urban areas were “safe” who learned otherwise the hard way, sometimes simply by having something openly on display in their locked parked vehicle stolen. It is unwise to have things of value laying in the open in one’s locked vehicle even when parked in presumed “safe” urban areas.

But then, you may be referring to people who live in elite urban enclaves near high crime urban areas. Such as the one Comrade O lived in in Chicago. Where there is a huge constant police presence and two other LE departments heavily patrolling the area, such as the University of Chicago PD.

No doubt the areas of DC where the elite left-wing politicians and bureaucrats live, work and play are very well patrolled.

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 3:42 PM

I don’t think we necessarily disagree. Perhaps I just notice it more because I’ve been getting funny/horrified looks from suburbanites for 30-odd years, but if seems to me that most people with a misperception of urban crime err on the side not of thinking the city is safer than it is, but that its so horrifyingly dangerous that you take your life in your hands just walking around the corner for a beer. The truth, of course, is that my neighborhood is more dangerous than theirs, but that doesn’t bother me s much as it would a lot if people.

Urban Elitist, btw, is tongue in cheek. Though I undeniably have a stereotypically elitist view of certain things — fine dining, NASCAR, etc. — I’ve never lived in the well-patrolled playgrounds of the monied and the powerful. I used to walk the block where this mugging took place on the way home from work on a regular basis, and hd main drag of my neighborhood has a distinctly seedy feel to it, though that is slowly changing.

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM

How exactly did Zimmerman provoke an altercation?

blink on July 29, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Acting white? That’s a serious, unforgivable offense in Trayvon’s culture and ‘hood.

viking01 on July 29, 2013 at 4:03 PM

I think if “justice for TresVoo” continues, the backlash may be more than the race baiters and hucksters bargained for.

HomeoftheBrave on July 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM

About the neighborhood Zimmerman, the punk, was living.

It was experiencing a huge spike in burglaries and attempted break-ins. Including a home invasion in broad daylight while a woman was at home with her baby. She locked herself in an upstairs bedroom with her baby while the perps (two young black males) were burglarizing the lower level.

And the perp arrested for at least one of the burglaries was a black male in his late teens who was living in the gated community with his parents at the time. And who was subsequently sent to prison for five years by the same judge who presided over the Zimmerman trial.

Here are some facts from this article…

What Do Zimmerman’s Calls to Police Show About His View of Black Men?

On August 29, police asked Beltaran (victim of home invasion while she was at hom with her baby) if she had any additional information that could help them, but all she could add was that her husband thought he had seen a black male matching her description of the suspect walking in their back yard one week prior to the burglary. The case was put on inactive status that day.

On September 23, GZ reported an open garage door, noting that at a recent neighborhood watch meeting, Sgt. Herx advised him to report anything suspicious.

On October 1, GZ reported that two black males, approximately 20-30 years old, appeared to be loitering in their car at the gate of the community at 1 a.m.; he reported that he didn’t recognize them or their vehicle and was concerned due to the recent burglaries in the neighborhood (#39). Later in October, Belatran successfully identifies one of the suspected burglars, Emmanuel Burgess, from a photo lineup. Burgess, who was out on conditional juvenile parole and living with his parents in GZ’s and Belatran’s complex, had apparently become a suspect when police matched two of the latent palm prints to him in September. Charges were then filed in October. According to trial testimony, Burgess was only arrested in December, however, and then released as a minor.

On February 2, 2012, GZ reported that a black male repeatedly approached the residence of a white male neighbor. Per the audio recording of the call, which was played at trial, this was the home of Frank Taafe, who was out of town at the time. GZ reported that the individual kept walking up to the house and away from it and then back up to it again, as if casing it (#42).

On February 6, Tatiana Deamicis reported that her residence in the complex had been burglarized. Two witnesses (Arnold Arms and Iain Beard) told police that they saw a black male, mid-20s, 5’8”, approximately 180 lbs., standing next to Deamicis’s residence (but not entering or leaving it). Beard believed that the individual had stolen his bike (previously reported to police). On February 7, Arms and Beard called police to report three black males and one white male on bicycles “in a cut through area of the complex (a grass area where [the complex] backs up to Colonial Village Apartments),” one of whom (who would turn out to be Burgess) they believed to be the person they saw with a possible connection to the February 6 burglary. Police responded and obtained permission to search the backpack of one of Burgess’s companions (Ransburg), and discovered two laptop computers. A third companion claimed that he had purchased the one of the laptops the previous night. Officers determined, however, that the serial number matched the computer stolen from Deamicis’s residence the prior day. While the officers were attempting to handcuff the four suspects, one fled, but was apprehended shortly thereafter in the Colonial Village Apartments. Burgess’s juvenile probation was terminated and he was arrested. He was ultimately sentenced by Judge Nelson (who also presided over Zimmerman’s trial) to 5 years in prison. It is unclear whether the other suspects remained in custody or were released after February 7, and it is unclear whether they were tried or convicted for anything.)

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Just curious… is anyone keeping track of these incidents on a web site somewhere? Sure would be nice to point to a list to show the politically apathetic how bad the media is screwing them.

TheLoudTalker on July 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Urban Defeatist is black.
With just enough education to be, well, perhaps affirmatively credentialed would be a better choice of words.
The lies spewed forth about ol’ Zimmy indicate exactly what I already knew.

Lanceman on July 29, 2013 at 5:53 PM

This smacks of common criminals exploiting a racially-divisive event to “justify” crimes they would have committed anyway.

The left invented the concept of a hate crime — that one motive for deliberate violence is worse than another.

When these three men are caught, let them suffer liberal justice…

unclesmrgol on July 29, 2013 at 5:59 PM

TheLoudTalker on July 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Trayvon Revenge Counter

novaculus on July 29, 2013 at 6:28 PM

farsighted on July 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM

I miss the good old days when signs used to say tresspassers will be shot/prosecuted. Now it would be unPC. Shame.

AH_C on July 29, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Only in America can a brown man shoot a black man and a white man gets blamed.

Dollayo on July 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM

DC muggers to victim: “This is for Trayvon Martin”

How fitting, thugs honoring a well on his way wanna-be thug.

RJL on July 29, 2013 at 7:47 PM

screamed like a little girl and then killed an unarmed kid.

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM

So he was incapable of killing GZ without a gun?

Seriously, go fuk yourself. You’re the poster boy for useful idiots. TM thought he could take down the wrong guy …he blew it and he deserved it. There are plenty of good young black people getting killed every day. Go cry for them….and fuk off again.

CW on July 29, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Well, who hasn’t fantasized about going out in gangs and beating and robbing black people in the name of George Zimmerman? I’ll bet Obama wouldn’t justify that, but then he doesn’t like getting his facts straight either.

flataffect on July 29, 2013 at 9:36 PM

screamed like a little girl and then killed an unarmed kid cleansed the land of human detritus.

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM

FTFY…

JohnGalt23 on July 29, 2013 at 9:57 PM

DC has poor people and thus crime, but it’s relatively safe. No one I know who lives here would have any concerns about a daylight walk from Foggy Bottom to Union Station — a panhandler looking for a cup of coffee is an unfortunate but non-threatening fact of urban life.

urban effetist on July 29, 2013 at 1:19 PM

LOL+

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2013 at 11:28 PM

The right wing hooks onto minor incidents like this because it feeds their self-pitying “we white people are victims” and “black people are dangerous thugs” narratives.

urban effetist on July 29, 2013 at 1:45 PM

That’s all you’ve got?

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2013 at 11:31 PM

People who choose to live in an urban area are generally less worried about crime than other people confronted with the same statistics would be, just as peopl who live in Minnesota are less worried about snow and people who live in France are less worried about the French.

urban effetist on July 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM

I’m sure you’ve lived in France, but I seriously doubt you’ve ever seen snow in Minnesota.

As for urban crime, care to tell us what kind of locks you have on your doors, and if you have alarm systems in your apartment?

And do you regularly leave the safety of your home at all hours of the day or night without being afraid? And if not, please tell us why you’re not perfectly safe 24/7?

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Perhaps I just notice it more because I’ve been getting funny/horrified looks from suburbanites for 30-odd yearst

urban effetist on July 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM

In other words, you’re admitting that you have been profiling suburbanites for 30-odd years.

Thanks for the confession!

A+

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Mugging are a bad. I am against them. I fantacize about kicking a mugger to death.

Anything else?

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Yeah, why not just pull out your gun and shoot him. It’s quicker, surer and you don’t bruise your toes.

Oldnuke on July 29, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Yeah, why not just pull out your gun and shoot him. It’s quicker, surer and you don’t bruise your toes.

Oldnuke on July 29, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Less satisfying.

I’m sure you’ve lived in France, but I seriously doubt you’ve ever seen snow in Minnesota.

As for urban crime, care to tell us what kind of locks you have on your doors, and if you have alarm systems in your apartment?

And do you regularly leave the safety of your home at all hours of the day or night without being afraid? And if not, please tell us why you’re not perfectly safe 24/7?

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I have seen snow in Minnesota. I’ve seen a lot more in Iowa, where I lived briefly a couple of times. Since I’m better with crime than snow, I choose to live here, not there.

I have deadbolt locks and an alarm system on my house. And I never claimed that the city was perfectly safe 24/7. I’m not perfectly safe, because there are criminals.

Seriously, go fuk yourself. You’re the poster boy for useful idiots. TM thought he could take down the wrong guy …he blew it and he deserved it. There are plenty of good young black people getting killed every day. Go cry for them….and fuk off again.

CW on July 29, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Funny your crowd is in all in favor of stand your ground when a sad cop-wannabe gets to kill a kid, but when a kid stands his ground against the punk who profiled and then stalked him, the kid’s a thug. Double standard much?

And, btw, the pretense that conservatives care at all about the black community in Chicago is laughable. Nothing that the Republican/conservative movement has done in a generation suggests anything but outright hostility to urban life generally, complete indifference to the poor and seething resentment of blacks.

urban elitist on July 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Funny your crowd is in all in favor of stand your ground when a sad cop-wannabe gets to kill a kid, but when a kid stands his ground against the punk who profiled and then stalked him, the kid’s a thug. Double standard much?

urban elitist on July 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM

He didn’t ‘stand his ground,’ he doubled back and attacked him because he thought he was gay.

But don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant, lib.

fossten on July 30, 2013 at 8:12 AM

And, btw, the pretense that conservatives care at all about the black community in Chicago is laughable. Nothing that the Republican/conservative movement has done in a generation suggests anything but outright hostility to urban life generally, complete indifference to the poor and seething resentment of blacks.

urban elitist on July 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Um, these communities are run by Dems. There is absolutely no factual basis for your remark. All the damage to the blacks has been done by Democrats.

fossten on July 30, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Perhaps I just notice it more because I’ve been getting funny/horrified looks from suburbanites for 30-odd yearst

urban effetist on July 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM

In other words, you’re admitting that you have been profiling suburbanites for 30-odd years.

Thanks for the confession!

A+

Del Dolemonte on July 29, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Actually, they’ve been profiling me.

urban elitist on July 30, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Anything else?

urban elitist on July 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM

…no…as usual…we know that’s all you got!

KOOLAID2 on July 30, 2013 at 8:22 AM

Less satisfying.

urban elitist on July 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM

So you care less about stopping a threat than you do about taking your aggression, rage, and frustration out on another human being.

You’re a f**king monster.

MadisonConservative on July 30, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Funny your crowd is in all in favor of stand your ground when a sad cop-wannabe gets to kill a kid, but when a kid stands his ground against the punk who profiled and then stalked him, the kid’s a thug. Double standard much?

First, Martin wasn’t a kid. He was a year away from legally buying porn and smokes, and could have gone into the military. He was tall, strong, and knew mixed martial arts. He was also a “lean” addict, as evidenced by his facebook posts, liver damage, and the “iced tea” and skittles he had on him…an addiction which, by the way, produces the side effects of paranoia and aggression. Sounds a lot like you.

Secondly, I like how you completely absolve the “kid” of turning around and engaging the encounter. The ball was in Martin’s court, and he chose to smash it into the concrete while telling a man “you gonna die tonight”. How come you wouldn’t have wanted to kick him to death? Where’s your frustration against a member of a demographic that you don’t see as all victims?

Finally, Zimmerman was no “wannabe cop”. He was more of a cop than many actual law enforcement members, having spent several years keeping an eye out in his neighborhood, and alerting the cops(on their non-emergency number) when things seemed out of the ordinary, and before you even get the chance to lie, that included calling to inform the police that a seven-year-old black child was on his own and was afraid for the child’s safety.

You know why he wasn’t afraid for Trayvon Martin’s safety? Because he wasn’t a child. He was a thug that showed off his guns and drugs on Twitter, didn’t like “creepy-ass crackers” that he thought were gay, and told a man “you gonna die tonight”.

He was wrong, and he got everything he deserved. F**k you if you think otherwise.

And, btw, the pretense that conservatives care at all about the black community in Chicago is laughable. Nothing that the Republican/conservative movement has done in a generation suggests anything but outright hostility to urban life generally, complete indifference to the poor and seething resentment of blacks.

urban elitist on July 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Places like Chicago, DC, and Detroit are run by Democrats, you pathetic little fraud. Tell us about the Republican administrations of failed big cities. Perhaps you’re thinking of Giuliani and New York?

MadisonConservative on July 30, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Deriving empowerment from the POS I mean POTUS

long_cat on July 30, 2013 at 11:06 AM

unfortunately, there are still people out there that need to be labeled with the N word. They deserve nothing less.

ultracon on July 30, 2013 at 11:54 AM

The muggers yell “This is for Trayvon!”, then they all castrate themselves so they won’t have any stupid children like him.

trl on July 30, 2013 at 5:44 PM

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