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Guest hosting the Hugh Hewitt show, with Marco Rubio

posted at 1:41 pm on June 13, 2013 by

We won’t have The Ed Morrissey Show today, because I’ll be guest hosting for Hugh Hewitt tonight from 6-9 pm ET!  The live video stream can be seen through the Hughniverse, the troll-free websurfing experience for Hugh Hewitt fans.  It’s got plenty of great and original content including terrific podcasts from Duane “Generalissimo” Patterson, Michael Patrick Tracy, and the Tribbles.

As of the moment, we expect to have Senator Marco Rubio as a featured guest.  Have questions for him on immigration? Be sure to leave them in the comments, and I may choose one or two of the best to use tonight.

Tonight’s guests may include:

Duane and I will also talk about the Eddie & Duanie Cruise to Alaska next month — be sure to check out the details!

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True. I listen to highlights when people post them. I’ve heard him attack amnesty, heard him go after Paul, haven’t heard Levin take on Rubio.

El_Terrible on June 13, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Levin has been ripping the head off of this bill for weeks. Last night, he ripped the heads off of Paul Ryan, Boehner, Rover and “others” for pushing legalization. Funny how he did not mention Rubio ONCE when Rubio is the face & voice of this crap sandwich. Maybe Levin will follow suit now that Rush has finally called Rubio out by name.

Hannity is completely useless on this issue… probably relieved to have all the other scandals to talk about instead.

SheVee on June 13, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Can you give us a date. I don’t have time to listen through all the shows and I can’t tell from the summaries which one to listen to.

gh on June 13, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Listen to the first hour of Levin’s show from last night. In the 2nd half hour, he has Michelle Bachmann on who talks about what’s happening behind the scenes to ramrod this thru the House. They’re adding amnesty as a 2nd issue to protest at the Tea Party rally on June 19th in DC starting at 10am.

SheVee on June 13, 2013 at 3:31 PM

I see the original NRO link for this quote has been scrubbed. Surprise, surprise. Here’s another:

On the other hand, when I hear some people accuse immigrants of destroying the American economy and culture and stealing jobs from American citizens, it stirs my anger, too. I can’t stand to hear immigrants described in terms more appropriate to a plague of locusts than human beings. And although I believe they are a small minority, I begin to wonder if some of the people who speak so disparagingly about immigrants would be just as worked up if most of them were coming from Canada.

From Marco Rubio’s book. Ask him why he resorts to claims of racism to back up his views.

MadisonConservative on June 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM

From Marco Rubio’s book. Ask him why he resorts to claims of racism to back up his views.

MadisonConservative on June 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM

This is a little disingenuous, especially when you have Coulter ranting how amnesty will lead to a wave of Mexicans who will all vote Democrat and the country is gone forever.

John the Libertarian on June 13, 2013 at 3:44 PM

The left will never vote for Rubio.

Other than those from Cuba, Hispanics will never vote Rubio.

And now that he has given away “the farm” on immigration, the right will never vote for Rubio.

His Presidential future went up in smoke before the match was lit.

Carnac on June 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM

SheVee on June 13, 2013 at 3:31 PM

You misunderstood my question. I want the show where he rips Rubio. You just said he did not do that in your post above.

Nonetheless, I’ll try last night’s show. I haven’t listened in a while.

gh on June 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Question for Rubio:

Will penalties for those who hire illegals AFTER this bill passes be heavier? And WHY aren’t we enforcing those laws NOW?

originalpechanga on June 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM

This is a little disingenuous, especially when you have Coulter ranting how amnesty will lead to a wave of Mexicans who will all vote Democrat and the country is gone forever.

John the Libertarian on June 13, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Well, are the majority of illegal aliens hispanic? Are they Mexican? If so, what’s wrong with what Coulter said?

To answer Rubio’s question, if the illegal aliens were Canadian, there wouldn’t be a national debate about amnesty because Canadians aren’t a politically relevant minority.

MadisonConservative on June 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM

we don’t follow current immigration laws – why does Rubio think the laws provisions which supposedly fix immigration will be executed?

gwelf on June 13, 2013 at 4:15 PM

ask him if I can have my contribution to his campaign back, he has proven to be quite unworthy of my largesse

ask him why we have to accomodate 11 to 30 million lawbreakers in order to make new laws against doing the same thing in the future

ask him if really thinks we believe anything he says anymore

ask him to stfu and just busy himself by holding McCains drool cup

Man I really wanted him to be who we thought he was.

DanMan on June 13, 2013 at 4:20 PM

My guess is Ed’s questions will be:

What is your favorite color, Senator?

Are you a Dolphins, Jaguars or Buccaneers fan?

How many children do you have? Do they like school?

bw222 on June 13, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Marco Rubio is getting saturation coverage. He’s the Susan Rice of the establishment GOP. Here we have the most scandal plagued administration in my life and the GOP is implementing the circular firing squad to full effect.

No more legislation until the scandals are dealt with.

DanMan on June 13, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Ed, man up and don’t go all gooey over Rubio. After all that conservatives have done for him, he is now the main force behind a naive, foolish push that will destroy this nation.

There is no secret here: Enforcement FIRST, Enforcement FIRST, Enforcement FIRST, Enforcement FIRST!

What is so hard to understand about this? Just secure the border and enforce the laws first! Isn’t that what government is SUPPOSED to do?

Whitewolf7070 on June 13, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Require Rubio to answer six questions with only a “yes” or “no” answer.

mjbrooks3 on June 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Ask him about kowtowing to bigots who think it’s OK to fire an employee for being gay.

Ask him about Evangelical Sharia.

Capitalist Hog on June 13, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Ask him how it feels to have his name used as a slur by those who think he’s a traitor.

Capitalist Hog on June 13, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Senator Rubio, you have sold this bill as ‘security first’ yet your actions have demonstrated a ‘legalization first’ approach (you even state as much in your Spanish language advertisement). You’ve helped kill the Grassley amendment which would have forced some security improvements to the forefront which gives further lie to your public statements about only standing by this bill if it puts security first.

I also take issue with your strawman argument that we either support this bill or we are completely against any sort of immigration reform. First off, it is not a crisis if people who broke the law to come here are here – it’s a problem, not a crisis. Second, there have been numerous amnesties prior to this bill and none has helped or solved this problem – your bill will do the same, instead exacerbate the problem. Security is consistently forgotten or ignored even though it was part of the previous amnesty pushes – we have no reason at all to believe this bill will be any different (and before you repeat your lie about security being first, let me remind you that you are not coming across trustworthy or believable on this point… I look to your partners in crime [and if you're going to be called a gang, you might as well understand how that is viewed by the rest of us] – Schumer, McCain, Graham – none of whom have any sort of credibility on this issue).

We can fix this problem but it requires separating immigration from security – and until we have a secure border and a visa system which works we cannot even attempt any other sort of immigration reform.

You have lost all credibility in my eyes due to your fanaticism on this issue – I will throw my complete support behind any opponent of yours in the future and any other representative who supports your bill. If it succeeds I really have no worries on that score… the Republican brand will be irreparably destroyed (destroyed, not damaged) – there will be no coming back from this fiasco for any of you.

Ukiah on June 13, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Above all, Rubio likes to ramble endlessly, which limits the number of questions he is asked. Don’t let this happen.

bw222 on June 13, 2013 at 2:18 PM

And that’s why I call him MarcObama

Marybeth on June 13, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Ed, you are required to put grill marks on Rubio’s a$$ on this amnesty bullsqueeze. He must know that the GOP is dead if this goes through, and that we see through his lies and are not buying this crap.

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Senator Rubio,
You are a perfect example of the current state of our government, so arrogant that you will say right to our face one thing, while doing another while you’re still talking to us. Question: I am a teacher, I have a student whose family came to America from Serbia for a better life. They this year-13 years and thousands of dollars later-gained their citizenship. How does that family not feel like they have WASTED the last 13 years when they could have just “hidden in the shadows” and waited for you to give them amnesty? And Sir, it is amnesty. When you commit a federal felony, what happens? You go to jail! They are being given a free pass. Amnesty!

daveweber on June 13, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Capitalist Hog on June 13, 2013 at 4:45 PM
Capitalist Hog on June 13, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Hey, thanks for pointing out the splinter in someone’s eye – might want to check that 2×4 in your own, bigot.

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 5:14 PM

you have chuckie with you? don’t be soft with him…make him defend the heck out of dear leader…he seems to do that well

cmsinaz on June 13, 2013 at 5:14 PM

And ask the jerk what has changed from his 2010 stance on illegal immigration:

During a March 28, 2010 Fox News debate against then-Gov. Charlie Crist, Rubio said: “He would have voted for the McCain plan. I think that plan is wrong, and the reason I think it’s wrong is that if you grant amnesty, as the governor proposes that we do, in any form, whether it’s back of the line or so forth, you will destroy any chance we will ever have of having a legal immigration system that works here in America.”

In a CNN debate on Oct 24, 2010, moderator Candy Crowley asked, “So your plan is that you’re going to close the borders, get the electronic system, fix the legal system, and then do what?” Rubio responded: “And then you’ll have a legal immigration system that works. And you’ll have people in this country that are without documents that will be able to return to the — will be able to leave this country, return to their homeland, and try to re-enter through our system that now functions, a system that makes sense…Earned path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty.”

Marybeth on June 13, 2013 at 5:19 PM

His Presidential future went up in smoke before the match was lit.
Carnac on June 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Seems to me I recall Romney and Gingrich being declared dead long before they were basically two of the last 3 or 4 standing. I love it when people “proclaim” things in politics because naturally you can expect the opposite to happen at least half the time.

Marcus on June 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM

On the other hand, when I hear some people accuse immigrants of destroying the American economy and culture and stealing jobs from American citizens, it stirs my anger, too. I can’t stand to hear immigrants described in terms more appropriate to a plague of locusts than human beings. And although I believe they are a small minority, I begin to wonder if some of the people who speak so disparagingly about immigrants would be just as worked up if most of them were coming from Canada.

Marco, Marco… you are a clueless leftist after all, eh?

People don’t have problems, or speak thusly about ‘immigrants’.

The problem is ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, YOU F*CK.

Ahem.

Someone please ask Rubio if he’s got an amnesty bill in the works for any other category of criminal that is in the shadows, separated from family, etc – drug dealers, petty thieves, car thieves, etc. Why is Rubio not pushing for them to simply pay a fine and ‘come out of the shadows’? Oh, wait… it’s because of *race*, isn’t it, Mr. Rubio? So *who* is the racist here, Mr. Rubio? *We* want *everyone* to obey the law; *you* want *some* people to not have to worry about the law. Why is that, Mr. Rubio? Is it *you* or is it *us* who are primarily concerned with one subset of people, hmmm?

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM

His Presidential future went up in smoke before the match was lit.
Carnac on June 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Seems to me I recall Romney and Gingrich being declared dead long before they were basically two of the last 3 or 4 standing. I love it when people “proclaim” things in politics because naturally you can expect the opposite to happen at least half the time.

Marcus on June 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM

I know, right?

Let’s ask President Romney about this – I’ll bet he’d have a good laugh at… oh.

Well, over to President Gingrich, who will surely be able to… oh.

Hmmm; my, my – it looks like those people were *right*, now doesn’t it? Which ‘half of the time’ did your equation work out for, Romney or Gingrich?

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 5:24 PM

1. Ask him about his claim that he made earlier today that we need legalization to pay for border security? Under this theory, why wouldn’t we just open the floodgates and every so often have an amnesty so we can get all of this extra money.

2. Ask whether RPI aliens will receive the Earned Income Tax Credit. If so, the majority of these beneficiaries will owe little or no federal income tax.

3. Ask why aliens are not required to pay “all back taxes” as opposed to those “assessed.”

4. Ask why the bill permits illegal aliens to sue for back pay against employers for pay even during times that they are not authorized to work in the United States. Sec. 3101 (amending 274A(a)(8)).

5. Ask why there is a huge carve out for employers of day laborers, and who knows how many other kinds of workers given the breadth of the definition, from the prohibitions on hiring unauthorized workers and on verification requirements. Sec 3101 (amending 274A(a)(b)(3)).

6. Ask about the major changes to the refugee and asylum system in the bill and what they do. Sections 3401 (reopening of who knows how many asylum claims), 3403(b) (permitting President unreviewable discretion to declare whole groups as refugees), 3405 (creating “conditional lawful status” for “stateless person” in the United States).

7. Ask why the bill repeals the prohibition on states giving in-state tuition to illegal aliens. Sec 2103 (adding 245D(d)). Ask why that provision is necessary if the bill is going to stop illegal immigration in the future? Ask if he thinks taxpayers should subsidize tuition for illegal aliens.

8. Ask why E-verify is being repealed (and presumably) replaced by a new “employment verification system.” Sec. 3401(a) (amending 274A(d)), (e). If he says E-Verify is a mess, ask him to provide another federal program that has a 99.6% accuracy rate.

9. Ask at what date the new employment system is required to be in place. The statutory requirements for employers to use the new system do not kick in until regulations have been promulgated to enact the system. Section 3401(a)(amending 274A(d)(2)(D)-(H)).

10. Ask why employers are prohibited, other than those ordered by the Secretary, from verifying existing employees under the new system.

Conservative in NOVA on June 13, 2013 at 5:27 PM

11. Ask what will happen to the illegal aliens that come into the country and are working before the new system is up and running (which could take 10 years)? Will there be an amnesty for them next? How can we trust there won’t be given previous promises that have already been broken?

12. Why is there no requirement for deporation of illegal immigrants who do not qualify for RPI status, or who cannot adjust to LPR status?

Conservative in NOVA on June 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Yeah. Ask him why radio commercials are still playing – citing him and others like Ryan – the the cancer ati voice for immigration reform, to whit:

1). Why radio ads are still saying the legislation secures the border first, when this is simply a lie. Or why the ads imply border security will come first (namedropping Rubio and Ryan to give the ad credibility) when this is clearly not the case

2). Why he himself – for months – said border security would come before any legalization; why he himself stated he’d walk away from any legislation that didnt secure the border first, when that also, was a lie.

Any number of follow ups could include challenging the hemming and hawing about how it wasn’t and isn’t a lie.

Or

3). Why are we talking about border enforcement AFTER legalization. Schumer himself said this will end illegal immigration for good and if you’ve already legalized the law-breakers, why the need for securing the border.

4). If any of the consequences spelled out: fines, back taxes, etc illustrate how this isn’t amnesty, why are we legalizing these folks FIRST before they’ve paid one dime?

More challenges should follow for the inevitable hemming and hawing on those as well.

I’m sure I’d love to hear the inevitable dodges that he isn’t responsible for those ads (though he does benefit from them politically) and how we need to “bring them out if the shadows” before we can do anything else.

Or this bonus follow up:

How will he respond once legalization has taken place to the voices from the Left that will immediately call for NOT collecting the various penalties spelled out in the legislation since it would be unfair to punish those for coming forward, how we can treat presumptive citizens like criminals, etc.

catmman on June 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Thanks for acknowledging the truth about his kowtowing to Tea Party extremism.

Capitalist Hog on June 13, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Marco Rubio is just stupid and really has no business running for POTUS. The Democrats played him, made him look like a fool, and now have him pegged as McCain-lite.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. :-(

Punchenko on June 13, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Is Rubio really the dumbest politician to be elected to the US Senate?

Punchenko on June 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Why did he vote against the Grassley amendment?

Does he — or any other Republican — have any reason to believe that most of the “conservative” elements in this bill won’t either be enjoined by some federal judge or completely thrown out? What’s to stop some federal judge from saying, if they’re here they’re entitled to benefits….or the vote?

Isn’t giving earned income tax payments to illegal immigrants a form of welfare, just as it is for U.S. citizens?

What’s to prevent those illegal immigrants from using that tax welfare money to pay the “fines and penalties,” and why wouldn’t that count as a type of amnesty?

Yes or no: does the bill grant amnesty to illegal immigrants for identity theft and Social Security fraud crimes? If it doesn’t, exactly what penalty will they be subject to for those crimes?

EastofEden on June 13, 2013 at 5:57 PM

If Ed would ask these questions, MarcObama would be – no matter how he answers -in for another world of hurt on his already greatly diminished credibility.

Marybeth on June 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Retard Hog

It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Retard Hog, the hypocrite bigot!

Meanwhile, lol@anyone who thinks Ed is going to ask Rubio any tough questions about his amnesty bill. Ed supports the bill, folks.

Better question to ask is why do folks keep having Rubio on to propagandize this issue?

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

The left will never vote for Rubio.

Other than those from Cuba, Hispanics will never vote Rubio.

And now that he has given away “the farm” on immigration, the right will never vote for Rubio.

His Presidential future went up in smoke before the match was lit.

Carnac on June 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Yep!

Ted Cruz is a Tejano…Salvadore & Marinez have better chances then Rubio.

He’s done.

workingclass artist on June 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM

What’s to prevent those illegal immigrants from using that tax welfare money to pay the “fines and penalties,” and why wouldn’t that count as a type of amnesty?

They won’t use tax money to pay these fines and penalties because there will be no fines and penalties to be paid.

Yes or no: does the bill grant amnesty to illegal immigrants for identity theft and Social Security fraud crimes? If it doesn’t, exactly what penalty will they be subject to for those crimes?

EastofEden

Yes, it grants amnesty for those and other crimes as well. Here’s a better question for Marco Liaro….during the time frame illegal aliens can sign up for forgiveness for committing these crimes and others, can American citizens who committed these same crimes also sign up to get these offenses waived?

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Better question to ask is why do folks keep having Rubio on to propagandize this issue?

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Because that’s what they’re there to do. Everyone — from Fox to the Beltway — is working on securing the nomination for Rubio.

He has…

- Most of Talk Radio.

- Fox News pumping him up.

- Bush Family & Associates advising him.

- General McCain & Company showing him what wars to support.

- The GOP La Raza Lobby behind him.

- The Cheap Labor Lobby behind him.

- The Military-Industrial Complex (that likes selling arms to Syrian rebels) behind him.

The list goes on I’m sure. All in all it ends with him clinching the nomination; being heralded as the Cuban Obama; and selecting Jeb Bush as his running-mate. Oh, and Hillary winning the election.

Punchenko on June 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

OK if it’s Lindsey “Grahamnesty”, how about Marco “Let everyone cross the Rubicon” Rubio?

/OK, it just came to mind. Don’t all dump on me for it.

Paul-Cincy on June 13, 2013 at 6:30 PM

I caught the 5-6pm hr on the drive home Ed. Nice work!

ted c on June 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM

…I’m listening right now…have been since 7:10 when I turned on my Ann Arbor station…and there was ED!

KOOLAID2 on June 13, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Capitalist Hog on June 13, 2013 at 5:44 PM

You really are an immeasurably ignorant piece of shit. Congratulations.

Midas on June 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Ed, I hope you didn’t get any of America’s blood on you.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Better question to ask is why do folks keep having Rubio on to propagandize this issue?

xblade on June 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

They must hate America too.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 10:31 PM

I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Marco Rubio.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 10:34 PM

From Marco Rubio’s book. Ask him why he resorts to claims of racism to back up his views.

MadisonConservative on June 13, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Playing the “race card” like Al Sharpton? Because he is a pathetic little worm. But then you already knew that.

VorDaj on June 13, 2013 at 10:39 PM

If Ed would ask these questions, MarcObama would be – no matter how he answers -in for another world of hurt on his already greatly diminished credibility.
Marybeth on June 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Ed was incredibly soft on Rubio. Felt like he really wasn’t interested in challenging him. :-(

bluegill on June 14, 2013 at 8:45 AM

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