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Good news: White House website salutes the “Founding Founders”

posted at 6:55 pm on June 13, 2013 by

Via Charles Cooke. Given their constitutional track record, I’m surprised they got this close to the correct phrase.

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One wonders if they had to ask the NSA to find them, since clearly they are not on the desks in the White house.

Vanceone on June 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Founding Founders? What’s with that?

So who will actually go to the WH site and use it? Will those who go and read now be placed on a WH enemies list? That wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

BTW, a lot of the Founders’ papers are already online. Library of Congress has scads. There’s a MA site with Adams papers. Virginia sites have Jefferson papers. There’s even a University of Chicago site with some (although they had their own dreck of commentary). There’s also a Teaching History site that has some. That’s just a few off of the top of my head.

Then there’s always the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers. They’re in numerous places.

INC on June 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Some feminist probably objected to “Founding Fathers” and the AP style guide section on this hasn’t been revised by leftists yet to further the cause.

blammm on June 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Changing the language is a foundational aspect of marxism.

rbj on June 13, 2013 at 7:16 PM

…written, no doubt, by idiotic idiots.

AUINSC on June 13, 2013 at 7:19 PM

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/

As I said above, this has primary docs. Ignore the Chicago commentary.

INC on June 13, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I’m surprised they didn’t use “Founding Parents,” since the Department of Education now puts “Parent 1″ and “Parent 2″ oin financial aid forms.

Wethal on June 13, 2013 at 7:22 PM

AAAAHHH IT’S GOT A PICTURE OF A DEAD WHITE GUY
LOOKS SO PATRIARCHAL
WE ALL KNOW THOSE PAPERS WERE WRITTEN BY THEIR SLAVES
I CAN’T BELIEVE THE WHITE HOUSE WOULD DO THIS

-LIBS/PROGGIES

Marcola on June 13, 2013 at 7:28 PM

The George Washington Papers at the Library of Congress

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/

Frankly, at the moment I’d go to any other site before I’d go to a WH site.

INC on June 13, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Adams Papers Digital Editions:

http://www.masshist.org/publications/apde/index.php

Do a search for Jefferson papers, and you’ll find him at UVA, Princeton, Yale and the Library of Congress, to name a few places.

INC on June 13, 2013 at 7:34 PM

I’m surprised they didn’t use “Founding Parents,” since the Department of Education now puts “Parent 1″ and “Parent 2″ oin financial aid forms.

Wethal on June 13, 2013 at 7:22 PM

They couldn’t do that. Obama is already our mother.

Yeah. I went there.

SagebrushPuppet on June 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/06/13/papers-founding-founders-are-now-online
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Wow. Still there. HotGas must be losing its influence over WH web initiatives.

ExpressoBold on June 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Good news: White House website salutes the “Founding Founders”

What, they dug up “Das Kapital”, Mao’s Little Red Book, and Che’s Manifestos?

Steve Eggleston on June 13, 2013 at 8:18 PM

Sex munce ago I couldn’t spil cunstutushunal lawyer and now i r wun!

Herb on June 13, 2013 at 8:38 PM

They were just a bunch of old white guys.

faraway on June 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM

I’m surprised they admit that the Founders had papers… weren’t they supposed to be illegal aliens undocumented immigrants loyal Democrats?

Also, when are they going to put up the papers of the Non-Founding Founders?

malclave on June 13, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I just got an email that has a (probably Photoshopped) Columbia U. picture ID of Barry Soetoro, foreign Student.
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Anybody else got a hit on this?

ExpressoBold on June 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

“These are the guys whose hard work, vision, and sacrifice we’re trying to destroy.”

Left Coast Right Mind on June 13, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Good news: White House website salutes the “Founding Founders” with the approval of such unlawful activities as domestic spying, torture, unlawful renditions, indefinite detention with no charges or trial or the opportunity to see evidence against you, drones, assassinations and etc.

JustTheFacts on June 13, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Reading at NRO’s Corner, I saw they’d been to the site:

The White House has today put up a link to a new government website that collates and offers key documents from the revolution and the founding era. But it appears that the administration couldn’t bring itself to say, “Founding Fathers”:

Perhaps our readers might come up with some other politically correct names for the revolutionary generation?

Meanwhile, notice the first suggestion as to how viewers might use this treasure trove of information:

Here are a few possibilities for using Founders Online:

–Assemble the Founders’ views on slavery into a single set of search results in which many of the original documents do not use the word at all.

–Collect all the correspondence between Adams and Jefferson along with their contemporaries’ views on each man to create a richer portrait on their fraught relationship and lasting friendship.

–Trace the Founders’ letters and diaries and debates leading up to the Constitutional Convention, their thoughts during the meetings in Philadelphia, the ratification of the Constitution by the states, and how the Washington administration, first Congress, and first Supreme Court implemented the grand experiment.

–Find insights into their private lives: the devotion expressed in the letters between John and Abigail Adams; Madison’s views on slavery; Hamilton’s feud that led to the fatal duel with Burr; the stuffed moose sent to Jefferson in Paris; Ben Franklin’s turkey; and yes, Washington’s decades-long problems with his teeth.

Stunning.

Stunning. Yeah, I’ll say. Those suggestions are really odd. You’ve got your PC suggestions, some trivial ones, and a couple that are so broad in scope that doing even one would mean a result that’s a mile wide and an inch deep unless you’re aiming to write a six-volume set. None are really helpful or doable for the general public.

Who put these together anyway? For what purpose? Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

INC on June 14, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Reading at NRO’s Corner, I saw they’d been to the site:

The White House has today put up a link to a new government website that collates and offers key documents from the revolut!on and the founding era. But it appears that the administration couldn’t bring itself to say, “Founding Fathers”:

Perhaps our readers might come up with some other politically correct names for the revolut!onary generation?

Meanwhile, notice the first suggestion as to how viewers might use this treasure trove of information:

Here are a few possibilities for using Founders Online:

–Assemble the Founders’ views on slavery into a single set of search results in which many of the original documents do not use the word at all.

–Collect all the correspondence between Adams and Jefferson along with their contemporaries’ views on each man to create a richer portrait on their fraught relationship and lasting friendship.

–Trace the Founders’ letters and diaries and debates leading up to the Constitutional Convention, their thoughts during the meetings in Philadelphia, the ratification of the Constitution by the states, and how the Washington administration, first Congress, and first Supreme Court implemented the grand experiment.

–Find insights into their private lives: the devotion expressed in the letters between John and Abigail Adams; Madison’s views on slavery; Hamilton’s feud that led to the fatal duel with Burr; the stuffed moose sent to Jefferson in Paris; Ben Franklin’s turkey; and yes, Washington’s decades-long problems with his teeth.

Stunning.

Stunning. Yeah, I’ll say. Those suggestions are really odd. You’ve got your PC suggestions, some trivial ones, and a couple that are so broad in scope that doing even one would mean a result that’s a mile wide and an inch deep unless you’re aiming to write a six-volume set. None are really helpful or doable for the general public.

Who put these together anyway? For what purpose? Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

INC on June 14, 2013 at 12:53 AM

The Obama Administration/White House web site gives the middle finger salute to the founding fathers.

SauerKraut537 on June 14, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Really inconvenient that the founding fathers were male, I guess.

Axe on June 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM

The WH loves our founders?

Yeah, and that pro-Gay, pro-condom, pro culture of death, Obama is an active Christian too.

Is their no bottom limit to the transparent shamelessness of the Godless left?

Don L on June 14, 2013 at 6:23 AM

I’m willing to cut some slack here.

After all, it isn’t hard to envision what happened.

Somebody created the original version of the page reading “Founding Fathers”. Their supervisor declared the use of “Founding Fathers” to be gender exclusive and so change it to the gender-neutral “Founders” (which I use interchangeably on my website and in my classes). The person coding the page made the change — “Founders” for “Fathers” and never thought to take out the redundant “Founding”. In other words, it was an editing screw-up, not a diss at those whose legacy is otherwise urinated upon by the Obama Administration on a daily basis.

RhymesWithRight on June 14, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Oh good! It’s been corrected!
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HotGas rules!

ExpressoBold on June 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM

The Founding Founders: “Oh, lookie here, see what we found!”

Good News, indeed!/////

Sir Napsalot on June 14, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Meanwhile, it’s Flag Day on Bing. On, Google, not so much…

apostic on June 14, 2013 at 9:16 AM

…we have a tremendous archive left behind by those statesmen who built the government over 200 years ago.

And you better not read or teach any of it to others, or else.

RadClown on June 14, 2013 at 9:43 AM

They couldn’t do that. Obama is already our mother.

Yeah. I went there.

SagebrushPuppet on June 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Thanks. You just ruined my day. I don’t even want to think about breast feeding.

HiJack on June 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Thanks. You just ruined my day. I don’t even want to think about breast feeding.

HiJack on June 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM

I didn’t mean that kind of mother.

SagebrushPuppet on June 14, 2013 at 11:02 AM

They couldn’t do that. Obama is already our mother.

Yeah. I went there.

SagebrushPuppet on June 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Well…he IS a whiny little b!tch…

bigmacdaddy on June 14, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Changing the language is a foundational aspect of marxism.

rbj on June 13, 2013 at 7:16 PM

I don’t know about you, but when I want to learn about American history, I google “Founding Founders”.

/huh?

Paul-Cincy on June 14, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Ah, the flounding flounders of the current administration strike again.

MikeHu on June 14, 2013 at 1:11 PM

I’ll bet the change came from the Department of Redundancy Department.

Mariner44 on June 14, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Just in time for Founder’s…I mean, Father’s Day.

James on June 14, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Oh good! It’s been corrected!
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HotGas rules!

ExpressoBold on June 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Well, yes and no.
They corrected it on the page but the page’s address still says “founding-founders”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/06/13/papers-founding-founders-are-now-online

yongoro on June 16, 2013 at 8:44 PM