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IRS To Pro-Life Groups: You Know You’re Gonna Have To Give Up This Whole Protest Thing, Right?

posted at 12:22 pm on May 19, 2013 by

We already have seen that the Obama administration doesn’t think much of the freedom of religion clause when it interferes with the HHS regulations. We’ve been shamed into giving up the 2nd Amendment, for the children. We’ve seen the freedom of the press isn’t really freedom anymore if the Justice Department doesn’t like what you’re writing about.

But with the testimony Friday of Steven Miller to the House Ways And Means Committee, we see now that what you pray about is a legitimate tax question. And on the Hugh Hewitt Show just a big ago, Texas Congressman Kevin Brady let this slip, when it comes to what happens when pro-life groups meet up with the Internal Revenue Service.

HH: Guy Benson, you have a question for Congressman Brady?

GB: Well, yeah, Congressman, I thought that your formulation, asking the question are we still in America, it was so apropos, especially when we heard that exchange between Mr. Miller and Representative Schock of Illinois, who talked about the pro-life organization…

KB: Yes.

GB: …that was asked by the IRS in writing what type of prayers they did.

KB: Yes.

GB: I mean, that, to me, is like a whoa, holy cow type of moment. Were you blown away by that as well?

KB: Yes, and we had obviously been reading through all the material throughout the week as this thing was coming out. And not only did they ask what were the contents of you prayers, but they were asking pro-life groups to have their board of directors commit that they will not protest in front of Planned Parenthood clinics, which again, never heard of in my life. And it ought to frighten people that the IRS, that the government, is that intrusive on behalf of a political agenda.

JC: Kevin, this is John Campbell. I haven’t heard this. They made them commit that they wouldn’t protest, or else they threatened they couldn’t get a tax exempt status?

KB: Absolutely. Abosutely.

GB: Yes.

KB: That was one of the intrusive questions they asked. And this is a simple C4 application. This has never been a cross-examination of your political or religious beliefs. But this is far beyond just conservative tea party type groups. This goes to the pro-life movement as well.

Yes, if you want to get tax exempt status, you have to have your board of directors remove the ability of your group to protest at Planned Parenthood clinics.

In any normal universe, regardless of the political ideology coming down here, the ACLU should go apoplectic over any group being leaned on by the federal government to waive their right of freedom of assembly.

Sadly, this doesn’t appear to be any normal universe.

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Longtime Chicago reporter John Kass on how this intimidation is not unfamiliar to anyone from the Windy City.

“IRS scandal a reminder of how I learned about The Chicago Way”

aquaviva on May 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM

The fact that there isn’t apoplexy in the media is proof that the media is outrageously biased.

If this was a Republican administration…(you know the rest.)

RedCrow on May 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM

We are going to fundamentally change America. An America where the Bill of Rights no longer exists would be fundamentally different I have to agree.

odannyboy on May 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Duane, I appreciate you posting in the Green Room, but if you want to continue posting, you have to promise not to criticize the Obama admin anymore. I’m just alerting you. There will be consequences.

/I want to work for the IRS

Paul-Cincy on May 19, 2013 at 12:38 PM

There are people who need to go to jail.

If anyone who knew about this also swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, they are guilty of treason because this is subversion of the Bill of Rights.

INC on May 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Longtime Chicago reporter John Kass on how this intimidation is not unfamiliar to anyone from the Windy City.

“IRS scandal a reminder of how I learned about The Chicago Way”

aquaviva on May 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM

John Kass recalls the Chicago Way (link at bottom). My Dad had a Dime Store at 103rd and Vincennes in the 50s and saw his property taxes zoom when he registered as a Republican in the City.

So everybody kept their mouths shut, and Chicago was hailed by national political reporters as the city that works.

I didn’t understand it all back then, but I understand it now. Once there were old bosses. Now there are new bosses. And shopkeepers still keep their mouths shut. Tavern owners still keep their mouths shut.

Even billionaires keep their mouths shut.

One hard-working billionaire whose children own the Chicago Cubs dared to open his mouth. Joe Ricketts considered funding a political group critical of Obama before last year’s campaign. Mayor Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s former chief of staff, made it clear that if the Cubs wanted City Hall’s approval to refurbish decrepit Wrigley Field, Ricketts better back off.

It happened. He backed off. It was sickening. But it was and is Chicago.

And now — with the IRS used as political muscle and the Obama administration keeping that secret until after the president was elected — America understands it too.

There are people who need to go to jail.

INC on May 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

If Valerie Jarrett is convicted, I predict Obama will pardon her immediately.

Paul-Cincy on May 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Paul-Cincy,

Sickening to think of, but you’re right.

INC on May 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Per the Constitution as construed by liberals and Democrats, the Bill of Rights creates a “penumbra” of privacy that protects your right to kill your unborn (or recently born) baby.

That right to privacy does not, however, extend to the content of your conversation with the Almighty. You must inform the IRS regarding your prayers so that they may determine your tax status.

novaculus on May 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Paul-Cincy on May 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Better have some cash on hand to grease the palms of the numerous city inspectors too. Refuse to grease even one properly and they will all be forwarding citations.

novaculus on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

So, PETA and Greenpeace should lose their tax-exempt status for protesting?

Dusty on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

So, PETA and Greenpeace should lose their tax-exempt status for protesting?

Dusty on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

No, no–it’s not protesting per se, just protesting the wrong things that’s a problem.

Athanasius on May 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Can we really say that we’re astonished that the IRS is now a tool for forcing sharia law on America? Because that’s what this is all about. Make no mistake, this scandal is more sinister than mere socialist govt corruption.

TXJenny on May 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM

ACLU ?, ACLU ?, ACLU ?. Crickets chirping

hamradio on May 19, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Reminds me of the The Kingfish, Huey Long.

LizardLips on May 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM

It all comes from the top. And you know who that is.

kemojr on May 19, 2013 at 9:37 PM

So the IRS is on record as demanding the power of life or death over US Citizens???

Grab the pitchforks, tar, feathers, and call up the militia: we are under attack by an evil enemy!!!

landlines on May 19, 2013 at 10:48 PM

There are people who need to go to jail.

If anyone who knew about this also swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, they are guilty of treason because this is subversion of the Bill of Rights.

INC on May 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

More to the point: there are people who need to be offered immunity for testimony. No point in punishing the little fry, if you can get them to roll over on the higher-ups.

bofh on May 19, 2013 at 11:01 PM

2015: Want that knee replacement? You Know You’re Gonna Have To Give Up This Whole Protest Thing, Right?

petefrt on May 20, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Do they have rules and punishment regarding news reporting too?

FOWG1 on May 20, 2013 at 7:47 AM

When the Dems politicize everything – every group in America becomes political. Hell, if desire to own an incandescent light bulb – that’s political speech these days. All part of the plan.

CycloneCDB on May 20, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Better have some cash on hand to grease the palms of the numerous city inspectors too. Refuse to grease even one properly and they will all be forwarding citations.

novaculus on May 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

I worked as an electrician in Chicago for a brief stint before grad school. There was a plumber the crew knew from seeing him on various jobs.

He told us that at one point a new inspector had been hired to cover his area. Apparently PVC pipe is not allowed to be used for drains–they still had to be cast iron per code. But the plumber, and I gather everyone else, had switched to PVC, since the code requirement was antiquated and irrational. The inspector noted his work but said nothing at the time, then pulled up all this plumbers’ previous jobs and went a looked at those too.

He came back with the list of violations, which was of course lengthy. The plumber said he offered the guy $3000 on the spot (this was 1992), which the inspector refused, apparently on principle. He wouldn’t be bought, and wrote up the citation or whatever it’s called.

The plumber called the inspections department, explained to them the situation including the amount he had tried to offer the inspector, and demanded to know “what the hell is going on down there.”

They sent out a new inspector the next day.

TexasDan on May 20, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I read somewhere that some of these abuses go back to 2008. If that’s correct, then we may have two problems here–a unionized agency that’s been corrupt to its core for years, and also is being used by this president for political purposes. Truly horrific.

juliesa on May 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM

I didn’t understand it all back then, but I understand it now. Once there were old bosses. Now there are new bosses. And shopkeepers still keep their mouths shut. Tavern owners still keep their mouths shut.

Definitely. I had a friend who worked for the State and was in the trucker’s union, and he changed his voter registration affiliation every time the governorship changed. It was job security. Politicians from both parties in Illinois are corrupt. It wasn’t called the windy city because of the weather.

lea on May 20, 2013 at 11:16 AM