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Of Course It Troubles Me. Are You Kidding Me?

posted at 10:05 pm on May 16, 2013 by

Paul Ryan on the eve of hearings in the House Ways And Means Committee, on the news the Justice Department grabbed phone records from the House of Representatives’ Press Gallery, from Hugh Hewitt Show’s earlier this evening.

HH: Your colleague, Devin Nunes, was on the program yesterday, and brought to my attention what I had not realized, which is the extent of this snooping on AP reached the House of Representatives.

PR: Yeah.

HH: And he used the wrong term. He said wiretapping. He meant snooping, because they just swept up the phone records. Does that shock you that the DOJ without a court order and on their own initiative, swept up the phone records of the House of Representatives?

PR: Well, it’s the Cloak Room, excuse me, it’s not the Cloak room where members of Congress used the phones. They call it the Press Gallery, which is not far from the Cloak Room. It’s in the same House floor, it’s off the House floor. But my understanding is they took the records of the House Press Gallery AP. Members of Congress use the phones in what we call the Cloak Room. I don’t think they took those records. So I don’t think you could say they swept up the records of members of Congress’ phone calls. They took the records of AP reporters in the House Gallery who were doing, were reporting on Congress.

HH: But if they can do that, if they can go into the House, can’t…

PR: Yeah, look, I’m not making an excuse. I’m just trying to make sure that we’re accurate here.

HH: Does it trouble you?

PR: Of course it troubles me. Are you kidding me? Look, this is why, again, the point I’m trying to make here is let’s not think of this as just, oh gosh, some bad people at the IRS did those dumb things, and then oh, some overzealous prosecutor at the Justice Department did that, and oh, gosh, you know, some low level person at the State Department did this. We should not be thinking like that. We should be thinking this is what you get with big government in practice. This is what you get when you have a government that just has gone beyond its moorings, that has gone beyond its scope, and this is the kind of government you get with progressive politics. And that’s just not in keeping with our Constitution. That’s not what we deserve. We want equality under the law, and that’s not what we’re getting, whether we’re a reporter, a taxpayer, or a citizen.

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Of course people in congress call the reporters and visa versa so this eavesdropping is bound to let them know lots of info about what congress critters are planning to do or even thinking. Rather useful stuff to have don’t you think?

KW64 on May 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I think this is news- Ryan just said the DOJ didn’t have a court order. I don’t think that has come out before.

HICON on May 16, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I think this is news- Ryan just said the DOJ didn’t have a court order. I don’t think that has come out before.

HICON on May 16, 2013 at 10:42 PM

If they did have a court order, it would have been used as the first line of defense by the DOJ.

“Oh that? Yeah, judge said it was cool. Also, shut up.”

The total lack of anyone admitting clue-freeking-one as to what’s going on indicated at the beginning no court anything was involved.

PXCharon on May 16, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Here’s why Alinsky method is so powerful.

Ryan’s argument (against “progressivism, big-government, etc”) correct, noble, and useless.

An Alinskyite would personalize it. He would insert a name, create an Emmanuel Goldstein, focus the rage (“Bush”, “Gingrich”, “Koch”, “Cheney”, “Romney”, “Palin”, “Cruz”, “Beck”, etc, etc, etc.)

The Left doesn’t hesitate to do that, but at the cost of their soul.

It’s destructive but powerful.

aquaviva on May 17, 2013 at 12:44 AM

…this is the kind of government you get with progressive politics. And that’s just not in keeping with our Constitution. That’s not what we deserve. We want equality under the law, and that’s not what we’re getting, whether we’re a reporter, a taxpayer, or a citizen.

And don’t forget that one of Holder’s first acts was to disenfranchise white voters.

landlines on May 17, 2013 at 1:18 AM

Look, this is why, again, the point I’m trying to make here is let’s not think of this as just, oh gosh, some bad people at the IRS did those dumb things, and then oh, some overzealous prosecutor at the Justice Department did that, and oh, gosh, you know, some low level person at the State Department did this.

He said “not”, right?

Fallon on May 17, 2013 at 9:30 AM

He said “not”, right?

Fallon on May 17, 2013 at 9:30 AM

His point is to not make the mistake of thinking that these were small, isolated coincidences. They are part of a much bigger problem and that is progressive-size government.

Odysseus on May 17, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I think this is news- Ryan just said the DOJ didn’t have a court order. I don’t think that has come out before.

HICON on May 16, 2013 at 10:42 PM

More importantly, this occurred in the Capitol, the domain of the legislative branch. Remember when William Jefferson (Democrat, Louisiana) stashed some of his money in his congressional office. Despite being controlled by a Republican majority, the House would not let the Bush administration justice department execute a search warrant on Jefferson’s office. The executive branch does not have the authority to infringe on the legislative branch

If the DOJ swept phone records, even from the press gallery, that is a big deal.

AZfederalist on May 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM