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Latest victim of NY gun control law: Hollywood

posted at 10:05 am on May 2, 2013 by

This has irony written all over it.  The gun-control law passed in haste and incompetence by the New York legislature at the demand of Governor Andrew Cuomo may mean a lot less business from the entertainment industry (via Elizabeth Crum on Twitter):

Officials in the movie and television industry say the new laws could prevent them from using the lifelike assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that they have employed in shows like “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit” and films like “The Dark Knight Rises.”

Twenty-seven film and television projects, including programs like “Blue Bloods” and “Person of Interest,” are now in production in New York State using assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, according to the Motion Picture Association of America. Industry workers say that they need to use real weapons for verisimilitude, that it would be impractical to try to manufacture fake weapons that could fire blanks, and that the entertainment industry should not be penalized accidentally by a law intended as a response to mass shootings.

“Weapons are part of our history as a culture as humans,” said Ryder Washburn, vice president of the Specialists Ltd., a leading supplier of firearms for productions that is based in Manhattan. “To tell stories, you need them.”

Mr. Cuomo has gone out of his way to promote the industry’s success; on Monday, he issued one news release to say the state was on track to break its record for the number of television pilots shot in a year, and another to say that “The Amazing Spider-Man 2” would begin production this week in Rochester. The governor has also enjoyed political support from Hollywood: his sole out-of-state fund-raiser as governor was held at the Los Angeles home of an HBO executive.

Industry officials, though, say the state’s hastily developed gun control measures pose an unexpected challenge to their growing production business in New York — the possibility that fake police officers on television could be treated as real-life criminals. “Without clarification that the use of prop guns is still permitted on sets, many of the dozens of productions currently shooting in New York could be forced to go elsewhere,” said Vans Stevenson, the senior vice president for state government affairs at the motion picture group, which is the powerful trade association of the movie business.

Hey, self-defense is also part of our inalienable rights as humans, too.  That didn’t hold much water with New York politicians looking to do something.

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The schadenfreude is strong.

Yasherka on May 2, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Sounds like some Hollywood actors need anger management classes.

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Ward Cleaver on May 2, 2013 at 10:16 AM

They aren’t “prop guns” if they are real. Own it, Hollywood!@

unclesmrgol on May 2, 2013 at 10:21 AM

The actors can always just point their fingers and go “Bang!”

It’s only make believe.

merlich on May 2, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Movies would be better if they used double-barrel shotguns. — Sheriff Joe

gregbert on May 2, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Hand out some pop tarts.

tom daschle concerned on May 2, 2013 at 10:28 AM

“Without clarification that the use of prop guns is still permitted on sets, many of the dozens of productions currently shooting in New York could be forced to go elsewhere,” said Vans Stevenson, the senior vice president for state government affairs at the motion picture group, which is the powerful trade association of the movie business.

Bloomy and other nanny state libs are the first proponents of using force.

Only now do you understand?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 2, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Pretty sure they’re already working on an exemption. This was reported like a month ago.

ButterflyDragon on May 2, 2013 at 10:45 AM

The actors can always just point their fingers and go “Bang!”

It’s only make believe.

merlich on May 2, 2013 at 10:26 AM

That will get an kindergarten kid expelled

Ann on May 2, 2013 at 11:20 AM

I can’t see this law being a problem for producers and actors. Seriously, does anyone actually expect the NYPD to start arresting actors on a movie set? C’mon!

The cops will be told to ignore it. Laws like this are for the little people. /sarc

capricorn on May 2, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Ain’t that a shaaame.

Imrahil on May 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Lenin Coumo can just exempt them by decree…

mjbrooks3 on May 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM

God go BOOM with irony stick.

waterytart on May 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM

the entertainment industry should not be penalized accidentally by a law intended as a response to mass shootings.

IOW, because they are special the entertainment industry should get special treatment.

Ordinary American citizens who mind their own business and don’t bother anyone are not special.

Libs and lefties like to create special groups and exempt them from the laws and restrictions they impose on everyone else. The Soviets operated exactly the same way. Rather than a classless society leftists create a two class society with different rules for each. One class includes the leftist ruling elites, their friends, and their cronies. The other everyone else.

farsighted on May 2, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Make them carry walkie-talkies instead… Also, go back to previously shot footage and digitally change guns depicted into walkie-talkies as well. Spielburg has already shown us the way.

Tremor on May 2, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Exemptions for their buddies on the way. That’s how Dems roll.

Guns for me, not for thee. The very thing the Second Amendment sought to avoid.

goflyers on May 2, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Don’t worry. David Gregory has already shown that there are laws for the little people and “laws” for the elites…

Big John on May 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM

…that the entertainment industry should not be penalized accidentally by a law intended as a response to mass shootings.

But millions of New York citizens should be penalized by a law intended as a response to mass shootings they had nothing to do with, and would do nothing to prevent mass shootings.

RadClown on May 2, 2013 at 1:07 PM

“Hey, wait, you mean that assault weapons ban will apply to us?”

Unbelievable.

Shump on May 2, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Wasn’t it Brandon Lee who was killed when a live round found its way into a “prop” gun?

If we can save just one actor’s life! /s

Mitoch55 on May 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM

It won’t surprise me a bit if the libtard workaround is to temporalily deputize actors & crew as law enforcement in order to film in NY.

roy_batty on May 2, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Wasn’t it Brandon Lee who was killed when a live round found its way into a “prop” gun?

If we can save just one actor’s life! /s

Mitoch55 on May 2, 2013 at 1:33 PM

No, he was killed by a real gun with real bullet driven out by a blank round. An earlier use of the gun had a bullet driven into the barrel by the primer of a “dummy” round. The gun sat for months with the bullet in it. None of the propmaster armorers ever checked it.

roy_batty on May 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Color me totally unconcerned (and I live in NY) with this subject.

Of vastly more importance is the decree–starting net year==where every purchaser of any type ammo will be required to give name and address, AND being subjected to a NICS background check. The vendor is required to retain these records.

So when you buy the hunting, target–whatever–ammo, you have been registered as owning a firearm.

irongrampa on May 2, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Well, when they use those guns in the movies, the fire coming out of the barrels is computer animated, and the sound is piped in. Why can’t they just hold little green pieces of wood prop and computer-animate the weapon they need on top of it?

MY PRRRRRRRRRRRRECIOUUUUUUUUSSSSSSS! did it with The One Ring to Rule Them All. Seriously, Law & Order. Get with the program.

JoseQuinones on May 2, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The gun-control law passed in haste and incompetence by the New York legislature….

Everything Albany does is with corruption and incompetence.

I had a dear friend in college who graduated with degrees in public policy and then law. She wanted to do lobbying work for non-profits in NY State. When she got to Albany and saw all of the corruption, quid-pro-quo, etc going on, she was so disgusted by it that she left the non-profit world after 2 years of struggling and went into private law practice. She said the Albany State House was nothing more than a den of thieves.

I’m sure it’s similar in many states, if not all, but it is one of the many things that made me happy when I left NY over 5 years ago…

powerpickle on May 2, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Who needs a gun when you have vomit and urine?

buffaloboy on May 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Cuomo is a sociopath who should be watched very closely. His sense of entitlement makes Shrillary look like Glinda the Good Witch of the East. I pray for some sort of scandal that “Weinerizes” his political career.

teacherman on May 2, 2013 at 3:21 PM

The props could be carved out of soap and painted with shoe polish… the ONLY thing that matters is that if they look scary, they shouldn’t be allowed.

malclave on May 2, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Just move production of the show to Houston or Dallas.
End of problem.

losarkos on May 2, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Let them use Nerf Guns in their stupid movies and TV shows.

I stopped watching prime time TV and seeing new movies years ago.

JackM on May 3, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Obviously, Hollywood has no entrepanuerial people. Restrictions against using real weapons opens up job opportunities for creative minds. There could be the small company that makes wooden or plastic weapons for the actors to hold while filming. In post production artists would be hired to digitally transform the make believe weapons into very real looking weapons, complete with fire and smoke being expelled from the barrels. Look at any decent war game and you will see masterful artistry that is very believable. There is absolutely no need for Hollywood to have real weapons.

Insistence by Hollywood to use real weapons is tantamount to their active resistance to creating jobs for out of work artists, craftsmen, and machinists. It doesn’t end there. The creation of jobs for even a small number of people has an impact that goes far beyond their households. The impact may be small nationwide, but locally the communities that host these artists and companies producing imitation weapons will benefit. With unemployment so high, I think it should be a crime for Hollywood to refuse to help create new jobs for people.

Also: Industry workers American citizens say that they need to use real weapons for verisimilitude personal protection, recreation, and hunting, etc., that it would be impractical to try to manufacture fake weapons protect oneself by peeing on their attacker, and that the entertainment industry American citizens should not be penalized accidentally whatsoever by a law intended as a response to mass shootings.

Know It All on May 3, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Yikes! entrepenuerial

Know It All on May 3, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Sorry Hollywood… that’s what happens when you give money and fundraise for liberals…

Tough luck, eh boys?

Khun Joe on May 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM

I rather doubt that there is even one prosecutor in New York State who is not an anti-constitutional leftist Democrat [sorry about the triple redundancy], but if one can be found; it is time to Breitbart their asses. Video the entertainment types breaking the law while filming, and have citizens file actual criminal complaints against the production companies, the actors specifically and personally, the prop people, and anyone else who can be connected with it in any way.

Give every one of them a criminal record. Make their insurance rates skyrocket, and endanger any licensure/probation that anyone connected with the production has in or outside show business that may be dependent on having a squeaky clean record.

Yeah, they will buy their way out of it. We know that. But it will use the Enemy’s own tools against them a’ la Alinsky. They will either suffer some consequences of their own actions and laws, or at least have to be flat out blatant in that there are laws for us, and privileges for the supporters of the regime. At the very least, it is good agitation at little cost.

Of course it depends on there being an honest government official somewhere in New York. Which probably does not obtain. It may even require that they find a Republican official with a higher testosterone count than a surgically fixed bichon frise. But someone, somewhere might want to actually fight back.

Subotai Bahadur on May 3, 2013 at 1:31 PM

The problem with everyone’s common sense solutions to actors/production companies is twofold:

1. They believe they are better than us average joes and should get whatever they want regardless of law.

2. They like to pretend they are badasses. They WANT to play with real guns. Yes, despite all their screeching and howling otherwise, in their hearts, they LOVE playing with guns. See #1 above, they just think they’re better than us and should be allowed to.

WhaleBellied on May 3, 2013 at 2:45 PM