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Got A Bachelor’s Degree & 2 Years Experience? You, Too, Can Work At McDonald’s

posted at 3:25 pm on April 4, 2013 by

…as a cashier. In Massachusetts. Thanks, Democrats. Nice country you’ve developed here.

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That’s what you get for going to diploma mills like Duke, Berkeley, and Stanford instead of real universities like Harvard, MIT, and Boston College.

/sarc

JimLennon on April 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Well, what else would you do with a worthless liberal arts degree?

My 20 year old son is 2 years out of HS, no college, no student loans to pay off – and makes almost $12 and hour (almost $17 an hour on Sundays and holidays) – making pizzas at Costco.
I’d say he was right to NOT go to college.

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

JimLennon on April 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Ha ha, Stanford beat Harvard for number one this year!

John the Libertarian on April 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM

It seems like traditional college is no longer useful for job or vocational training.

22044 on April 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM

The final two M’s games that I attended at Safeco last season each included a visit with a cashier that was unable to provide proper change for a purchase while using a cash register that told each of them the correct amount to return. Maybe the solution is to hire college grads instead of dudes with neck tattoos. The displaced non grads can get jobs as obamacare navigators.

rw on April 4, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I’d suggest that they move to Texas, but they would only bring their voting habits with them. Then they would ruin Texas, too.

No Truce With Kings on April 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM

It seems like traditional college is no longer useful for job or vocational training.

22044 on April 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Depends on the degree. I graduated with a bachelor’s in accounting last December and had a salaried position in hand 3 days later.

LukeinNE on April 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Ha ha, Stanford beat Harvard for number one this year!

John the Libertarian on April 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Maybe, but Stanford isn’t in Massachusetts. Home-field advantage, perhaps, for the locals?

Does this mean I’ll need a degree from Caltech to work at a Burger King in California?

JimLennon on April 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Depends on the degree. I graduated with a bachelor’s in accounting last December and had a salaried position in hand 3 days later.

LukeinNE on April 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Excellent, congratulations. :)
I have an accounting degree as well.

22044 on April 4, 2013 at 4:29 PM

B.S. in Industrial Technology, minor in Computer Science, Math, and English…

…been employed since graduating in 1987.

Screw liberal arts.

Turtle317 on April 4, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Well, what else would you do with a worthless liberal arts degree?

My 20 year old son is 2 years out of HS, no college, no student loans to pay off – and makes almost $12 and hour (almost $17 an hour on Sundays and holidays) – making pizzas at Costco.
I’d say he was right to NOT go to college.

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Sounds like your son made the right decision.

inviolet on April 4, 2013 at 5:10 PM

B.S. in Industrial Technology, minor in Computer Science, Math, and English…

…been employed since graduating in 1987.

Screw liberal arts.

Turtle317 on April 4, 2013 at 4:49 PM

My dream was a double major in literature and creative writing so I could teach and write, but even the state school I attended wasn’t cheap, so I got a BS in “boring” accounting so I’d at least have a virtually-guaranteed job when I graduated. Thank God it did work out that way and I haven’t wanted for a day of work since graduation.

Can’t even imagine how all the laid-off engineers, techs, etc. feel who can’t get work in Obama’s America. I don’t think anyone is really safe anymore — the best we can do is improve our chances. And the most disheartening part is, I think our president (and half of Congress) actually likes it this way.

inviolet on April 4, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Sounds like your son made the right decision.

inviolet on April 4, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Definitely right for him. he’s already been in consideration for a management position after only 1 year on the job, so I think he’ll do just fine without college – maybe some day to qualify for upper management.

My older son will be graduating from college in May with a business and philosophy double major (the orignal intent for that was law school) – but he’s tossed the law school idea for now – straight into business. He’s already had several interview rounds with multiple companies, so we’ll see which ones come through with offers.

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Screw liberal arts.

Turtle317 on April 4, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Ya – pretty worthless. I think that’s the biggest problem we have with employment right now – well besides what the Demtards are doing to us – too many kids getting worthles lib arts degrees.

My wife has a Masters in Library Science, and our HS grad son (mentioned above) makes almost as much as she does.
I got a General Engineering BS in 83, and never went back for any post grad work. But I’ve never had any trouble getting a job with a good salary since I left the Air Force. But if I did, I guess I’m now qualfied to work at McDonalds – again – I flipped burgers there when I was in HS.

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 6:16 PM

For those of us who got good degrees at traditional schools, I think the rise of for-profit schools & other vocational schools will continue and expand so that they’ll be more attractive to people seeking professional careers.
It’s kind of too bad, because a higher education that includes subjects that you won’t pursue professionally is helpful in other ways, but people need to be able to pay their bills and not go too far down the hole financially.

22044 on April 4, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Well if you’re going to require employers to pay $8.00 an hour (MA minimum wage), you’d better believe they’re going to try to get their money’s worth.

You can create all the charts referencing 1960 purchasing power that you want. A person is worth what he is worth.

HitNRun on April 4, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Hey! I have a degree in History.
Never been unemployed, either.

Considering it’s a BS in History (or BS squared) from USNA, it’s not the run-of-the-mill liberal arts background, but still.

TABoLK on April 4, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Apparently, it was misposted, and the job doesn’t really require a bachelor’s.

An email from a support team member of JobDiagnosis.com said the job post was listed incorrectly with the educational level defaulting to bachelor’s degree.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2013/04/mcdonalds-requires-ba-degree-not/

I’m not sure about Starbuck’s barrista jobs, though.

malclave on April 4, 2013 at 6:53 PM

I don’t have a high school diploma, and I’m the IT person for a chain of newspapers. Before that I was in demand for computer and printer repair in Silicon Valley. Before that I was an Army pharmacy and sterile products technician, a recruiter and a photographer. Before that I was an auto worker. I’ve never been unemployed, except voluntarily.

claudius on April 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM

I’m not sure about Starbuck’s barrista jobs, though.

malclave on April 4, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Most Starbucks want people to at least be done with high school, but, they don’t require a college degree.

I worked there fresh out of college. Impressed my manager and a few customers which got me various job offers. Took the offer with the company that my manager’s girlfriend worked for. Impressed them and ended up with a full-time job that pays more than the national average (though it’s not 6 figures or anything sweet like that).

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with working food service out of college. Do the job well and it will be a quick stepping stone to something professional (if that’s what you’d like).

JadeNYU on April 4, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Got A Bachelor’s Degree & 2 Years Experience? You, Too, Can Work At McDonald’s

I only got an AS degree. I seem to be completely uniquified to even mop floors.

BigGator5 on April 5, 2013 at 6:44 AM

This seems unrealistic until we recall that some potential employers won’t even consider applicants who are unemployed, no matter how qualified.

The new normal.

SagebrushPuppet on April 5, 2013 at 7:47 AM

McDonald’s Cashier Job Requires BA Degree–Not

Tony Cesolini, assistant manager at McDonald’s of Winchendon, a town on the border with New Hampshire, said the educational requirement was an error in the job posting.

Other than that, the article was accurate.

Dr. Mercury on April 5, 2013 at 8:16 AM

My dream was a double major in literature and creative writing so I could teach and write, but even the state school I attended wasn’t cheap, so I got a BS in “boring” accounting so I’d at least have a virtually-guaranteed job when I graduated. Thank God it did work out that way and I haven’t wanted for a day of work since graduation.

Interesting. My dream out of High School was to teach and write, but I went and got an engineering degree so I could have something to write about. Actually, my real love was history, and I wanted to write about that. When my counselor asked me why I wasn’t majoring into history instead, I told him I would rather make history than just watch it being made, and that engineering was where it would be made.

Over the next thirty years, I did participate in history being made, both in the Shuttle program and in the development of the Internet. I also managed to write (over a dozen books published) and teach (Computer Science at Community College as an adjunct). So I would say things worked out pretty well – much better than had I listened to my High School counselor and gotten a liberal arts degree in history. I’ve done everything I could have done with that BA History, and a whole lot more.

In many ways, Engineering has become best way to learn the critical thinking skills taught in the liberal arts degrees of the first half of the twentieth century, but which went astray somewhere during the 1960s.

Can’t even imagine how all the laid-off engineers, techs, etc. feel who can’t get work in Obama’s America.

Neither do I. None of my engineer friends have been unable to find work after getting laid-off unless they insist on finding a job exactly like the one they lost. In my case, I got laid-off when the Shuttle Program ended, and within a month had picked up a job as a tech writer, at the same salary I had as an engineer. Work was a lot more challenging and interesting, too.

An engineer that is on the ball can always find work. If not in engineering, in some other field where an ability to think critically is required. A lot of my former co-workers have become teachers, displacing liberal arts types.

No Truce With Kings on April 5, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Well, what else would you do with a worthless liberal arts degree?

My 20 year old son is 2 years out of HS, no college, no student loans to pay off – and makes almost $12 and hour (almost $17 an hour on Sundays and holidays) – making pizzas at Costco.
I’d say he was right to NOT go to college.

dentarthurdent on April 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Had he gotten an engineering degree from a moderately respectable University, he’d be making $30 an hour or more, with a good benefits package too

Of course, engineering is a real academic disicpline, and difficult.

krome on April 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Could be McDonald’s managers are getting tired of lazy, immature, irresponsible, undereducated, smart mouth, ill mannered and in need of person hygiene teenagers.

mixplix on April 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Had he gotten an engineering degree from a moderately respectable University, he’d be making $30 an hour or more, with a good benefits package too

Of course, engineering is a real academic disicpline, and difficult.

krome on April 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Yes that’s true – and I undeerstand that since I have an engineering degree.
But he has not had to pay for any college costs, no student loans to pay off, and he’s already got full benefits. And he was just a finalist for a manager position paying $22 an hour (he lost out to someone with many more years seniority with the company). He’s one of those people who work hard and do well on the job, but he can’t stand sitting in a classroom.

My older son went the college route and will graduate next month with a business degree (tried engineering, but couldn’t handle it), and will likely start somewhere in the $30K to $50K salary range – based on the interviews he’s already had. But I owe over $35K in parent loans for his college costs and he’s on the hook for about another $10K in student loans.

dentarthurdent on April 5, 2013 at 12:28 PM

With no degree, no experience, just having been an Obama-marcher, you can get a job as an Obama’care’ “navigator”, for $48.00/hour.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 2:24 PM

With no degree, no experience, just having been an Obama-marcher, you can get a job as an Obama’care’ “navigator”, for $48.00/hour.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Gawd. Thanks, Democrats. Nice country you’ve developed here.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM

What do the Obamacare navigators do?

Try to keep you away from the death panels or try to lead you to the group showers where you can be cleaned. Either way no one comes out of there alive.

SparkPlug on April 5, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Figured it was a mistake. McDonalds wants people who are actually grateful to have a job, not whiny drama queens with BA degrees causing dissension in the ranks.

Marcola on April 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Figured it was a mistake. McDonalds wants people who are actually grateful to have a job, not whiny drama queens with BA degrees causing dissension in the ranks.

Marcola on April 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Either a mistake or corporate testing the waters before requiring such nonsense on a large scale, but I’ll admit I can’t be totally sure which.

MelonCollie on April 5, 2013 at 10:42 PM