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House passes Ryan budget, 221-207

posted at 3:48 pm on March 21, 2013 by

A strong bipartisan majority in the House defeated three Democratic budget resolutions last night.  Today, a strictly partisan majority approved Paul Ryan’s FY 2014 budget, with every Democrat and a handful of Republicans voting ‘no.’  This marks the third year in a row that the Republican-held House has complied with the law by introducing and passing an on-time budget resolution.  The same cannot be said of Senate Democrats or the president.  Ryan’s proposal balances within ten years, doesn’t raise taxes, and reduces deficits by $4.6 trillion compared to the current spending path.  Senate Democrats’ alternative proposal never comes close to balancing, raises taxes by $1.5 trillion, and accelerates spending beyond current, bloated levels.  Paul Ryan laid out the choice in a floor speech prior to today’s vote:

“[President Obama] set a record this year: Two months with no plan, while we have trillion dollar deficits and a debt crisis on our horizon.  They have time for the attacks, but no time to offer serious solutions.   His party’s leaders are unfortunately failing to offer a serious account of our challenge.  No serious plan to grow the economy or create jobs.  No plan to ever balance the budget.  Take more — trillions of dollars more —  to spend more in Washington.  That’s what got us in this mess in the first place.”

The Senate is debating the Reid/Murray plan live on C-SPAN 2 — if you can tear yourself away from NCAA hoops.  Tempting, right?

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Who the hell voted no?

BigGator5 on March 21, 2013 at 4:08 PM

A few, antsy moderates from tough districts. Same as the last two years. There were several dozen Democrats who didn’t vote for any budget at all…”no” on all four plans.

Guy Benson on March 21, 2013 at 4:11 PM

No votes: Amash, Broun, Crawford, Forbes, Gibson, Gingrey, Heck, Jones, Massie, and McKinley.

Mark1971 on March 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM

A few, antsy moderates from tough districts.

That group includes conservatives who vote no just because that’s what they do and some others from purple districts.

Mark1971 on March 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM

A few conservatives also wanted everyone to know that Paul Ryan’s plan wasn’t conservative enough. Mark beat me to the punch on the roll call.

Guy Benson on March 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM

God, I wish we had taken the Senate.

John the Libertarian on March 21, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Also known as the 12309783928479824370928340th attempt to repeal Obamacare. Yeah, real serious budget.

lester on March 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Another example of futility. Including the repeal of Obamacare in the bill is a nonstarter. I don’t know what point they were trying to prove.

p_incorrect on March 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Also known as the 12309783928479824370928340th attempt to repeal Obamacare. Yeah, real serious budget.

lester on March 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM

If they tried to repeal Obamacare once every second, it would take them 390340687737619650 years to do that. Yeah, real serious comment.

besser tot als rot on March 21, 2013 at 6:59 PM

The Senate is debating the Reid/Murray plan live on C-SPAN 2 — if you can tear yourself away from NCAA hoops. Tempting, right?

rofl..Good one Guy Benson.. :cool:

Dire Straits on March 21, 2013 at 7:27 PM

How, exactly, is passing a budget an “example of futility”? The point they’re trying to prove is that Obamacare is a mess (most people agree), and that conservative policies can lead to a balanced budget, while the other side cannot.

Guy Benson on March 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Ted Cruz and Rand Paul voted against Ryan budget today in the Senate. So did Lee, Collins, and Heller.

Mark1971 on March 21, 2013 at 9:11 PM

How, exactly, is passing a budget an “example of futility”?

Guy Benson on March 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Because what they voted on today was a non-binding resolution, not a law. Cowardly.

AngusMc on March 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM

WhackoBird Justin Amash (he wears his brand from McCain proudly) explains all of his votes on his Congressional website. With checking what he says, I imagine it doesn’t cut spending fast enough and includes not enough entitlement reform. And that is how his constituents feel. He is doing a townhall on Monday night next week here locally.

karenhasfreedom on March 21, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong but the budget raised spending by 3.4%…

Panther on March 22, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Lay off the GOP no votes. Everyone knows that this is nothing more than a symbolic vote because the Senate is doing nothing with it. The GOP still gets its talking point that it passed a budget. I have no problem at all with a few Republicans in bluish districts denying the Democrats a talking point about voting to put grandma on the street to live off of Fancy Feast.

LukeinNE on March 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I love it when Democrats knock Ryan for using Obamacare repeal as a means of balancing the budget.

That is an implicit acknowledgment on their part that Obamacare adds to the deficit.

steebo77 on March 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Paul Ryan laid out the choice in a floor speech prior to today’s vote:

BTW, did Ryan bother to thank the President and the Democrats for those helpful Obamacare taxes that he used to oppose but now is conveniently keeping even after the repeal that will never happen that will allow his “budget” to “balance” in ten years?

No? Really? How ungrateful.

Mr. Arkadin on March 22, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Can someone ask Paul Ryan if his budget that doesn’t raise taxes keeps the medical device tax in Obamacare that everyone hates, or does he get rid of that one and just keep the rest?

Mr. Arkadin on March 22, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Also known as the 12309783928479824370928340th attempt to repeal Obamacare. Yeah, real serious budget.

lester on March 21, 2013 at 5:10 PM

So the Patty Murray budget from the Senate is the “serious” one?

We’ve got a debt issue, so lets change the baseline we have now and TAX MORE AND SPEND EVEN MORE THAN THE TAXES WILL RAISE.

Increase the deficit MORE THAN a plan of ‘DO NOTHING AT ALL’? That’s your serious budget?

Most of the “cuts” happen regardless; it isn’t like we can end the Afghanistan war on schedule and STILL spend the same amount on it every year… that’s not a budget cut, it’s knowledge of future reduced spending. Which isn’t a reason to spend more elsewhere.

If this is your “serious” budget, why can I not do anything but laugh when I read it?

gekkobear on March 22, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Another example of futility. Including the repeal of Obamacare in the bill is a nonstarter. I don’t know what point they were trying to prove.

p_incorrect on March 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM

It took the Democrats 25,000 tries over 50 years to pass it (some serious and some not). Why would it surprise you be surprised when we take 25,000 tries to repeal it?

Theophile on March 23, 2013 at 1:44 PM

BTW, did Ryan bother to thank the President and the Democrats for those helpful Obamacare taxes that he used to oppose but now is conveniently keeping even after the repeal that will never happen that will allow his “budget” to “balance” in ten years?

No? Really? How ungrateful.

Mr. Arkadin on March 22, 2013 at 8:58 PM

And you arrived at this conclusion how, and with what arithmetic? Did your conclusion also factor in Obama stripping 700 billion as an offset from Medicare to APA, and the sequestration you were yammering about a month ago, and the obvious budget cuts necessary, also included in Ryans passed budget ?

Nah, didn’t think so.

Fail.

Disingenuous argument.

DevilsPrinciple on March 24, 2013 at 9:33 AM

How, exactly, is passing a budget an “example of futility”?

Guy Benson on March 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Because what they voted on today was a non-binding resolution, not a law. Cowardly.

AngusMc on March 21, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I only quoted Mr. Benson as a frame of reference for the next STUPID statement by AngusMc. FYI,there is NO such thing as a non-binding resolution. There ARE only four forms that legislation can LEGALLY have. I will not define them for the terminally DUMB such as AngusMc poster but will reference them so that said idiot may look them up him/her/itself.

[PDF]
Introduction to Legislative Drafting – U.S. House of Representatives
http://www.house.gov/legcoun/HOLC/…/intro_to_drafting.pdf

1/Bill
2/Concurrent resolution
3/Joint resolution
4/Simple resolution

No wonder we’re in trouble. People like this are more dangerous than guns because they’re always shooting their mouths (or in this case, font) off.

DevilsPrinciple on March 24, 2013 at 9:50 AM

I only quoted Mr. Benson as a frame of reference for the next STUPID statement by AngusMc. FYI,there is NO such thing as a non-binding resolution. There ARE only four forms that legislation can LEGALLY have. I will not define them for the terminally DUMB such as AngusMc poster but will reference them so that said idiot may look them up him/her/itself.

DevilsPrinciple on March 24, 2013 at 9:50 AM

You, sir, are an utter moron. The resolution passed the other day was nonbinding. It was not legislation at all, nitwit. Before correcting someone, you really should know the difference between your a** and a hole in the ground, which you clearly do not.

Titled “The Path to Prosperity: A Responsible, Balanced Budget,” the nonbinding $3.5 trillion resolution outlines spending and tax priorities for the appropriations process and tax-writing committees and projects a balanced budget by 2023.
http://www.independentsector.org/house_budget_resolution

I applaud Representative Ryan’s budget resolution that aims to balance the budget, but I cannot support non-binding resolutions that will be changed with each new Congress. I voted against the Republican non-binding budget resolution
http://crawford.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=325002

A non-binding resolution is a written motion adopted by a deliberative body that cannot progress into a law. The substance of the resolution can be anything that can normally be proposed as a motion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-binding_resolution

You are welcome for the schooling.

AngusMc on March 24, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Another example of futility. Including the repeal of Obamacare in the bill is a nonstarter. I don’t know what point they were trying to prove.

p_incorrect on March 21, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Futile yes, but go check and see why GOP won in record numbers in 2010 mid-terms..to attempt to repeal at every opportunity….all be it said, they still havent done enough to snip the purse strings…

hillsoftx on March 24, 2013 at 7:46 PM