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Charts of the day: House vs. Senate Budgets

posted at 1:08 pm on March 14, 2013 by

Now that Democrats have released a budget fro the first time in four years, we can finally compare.

Phil Klein compares cumulative deficits, and has a great write-up at the link:

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The Washington Post offers this comparison of the budgets:

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east enough for a low information democrat to figure out

DanMan on March 14, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Severe! Extreme! Draconian!

FineasFinn on March 14, 2013 at 1:28 PM

east enough for a low information democrat to figure out

DanMan

No, it isn’t. It involves math and you know math is just hard.

Artemel on March 14, 2013 at 1:52 PM

What I’m wondering, and haven’t had time to research yet, is the GDP growth assumed in the GOP budget. I think that’s an important part of the comparison, and I believe the Dem budget assumes a ridiculously high rate given the economy under Obama so far.

toby11 on March 14, 2013 at 1:56 PM

The slopes of all of those lines are pretty darn steep.

besser tot als rot on March 14, 2013 at 2:07 PM

But the Gimmedats Budget in the histsogram is BIGGER … MUCH BIGGER.

Isn’t that good?

Missilengr on March 14, 2013 at 2:25 PM

OK so let’s now see a libertarian budget plan…

I know I know some of them are whackjobs but so are some of the D’s and R’s. Still looking for someone to show a budget GOING DOWN!!! Not less of a nightmare but still a nightmare.

landowner on March 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM

…where’s the trolls?

KOOLAID2 on March 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

And the WaPo graphic swallows whole Democrats’ claim of $1.85 trillion in deficit reductions under the Dem budget. The Hill correctly noted that the real number is $800 billion after accounting for shutting off the sequester.

Guy Benson on March 14, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Both budgets are an exercise in mental masturbation. The only difference is the degree.

voiceofreason on March 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM

For those who can’t read the WaPo chart, the deficits for the 2 years of spending this Congress can control (FY2014 and FY2015) are worse under the Senate Rat plan than the infamous “baseline”.

I can hear Patty “Wimpy” Murray now – “I’ll gladly slow down the deficits the year after next for more deficits today.”

Steve Eggleston on March 14, 2013 at 3:12 PM

The difference between the two is the big one. The Republican budget would not work even if passed. The Democrat one at least would function remotely close to advertised.

House budget, nothing but gimmicks. Senate budget, nothing at all.

astonerii on March 14, 2013 at 3:24 PM

No, it isn’t. It involves math and you know math is just hard.

Artemel on March 14, 2013 at 1:52 PM

The colors will help.

BobMbx on March 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Neither of these budgets is even remotely serious. So what’s the point. The GOP’s budget balances in “10 years.” That should tell you everything you need to know about the Republican party’s viability in terms of being an alternative to the Democrats.

The spectrum of American politics now runs from Kennedy Democrats (values, national defense, pro-capitalism, big government as far as the eye can see) on the right, as represented by the GOP, and Marxist-Leninist-Fascists on the left, represented by the Democrats.

Constitutionl Conservatism is now an anachronism to be laughed at, represented by no more than a handful of “cute little true believers” like Cruz & Paul.

SAMinVA on March 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Not sure why those lines are going up. Isn’t government too big right now? shouldn’t we see some horizontal lines or even better those lines going down?

tommer74 on March 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM

besser tot als rot on March 14, 2013 at 2:07 PM

tommer74 on March 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Yes, and Yes. There isn’t even a leveling or hit of a easing of the trajectory. They still don’t get it.

Mallard T. Drake on March 14, 2013 at 5:51 PM

America haters, pure and simple. They hate capitalism, they hate the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they hate successful people. They are bound and determined to cripple the country all for the sake of perceived socialism. I loathe them all.

ultracon on March 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM

I tend to agree with all of you that the curve should be going _down_, but at least the GOP budget manages to get back to 2006 deficits (if Klein’s graph is correct). IIRC, $100B annual deficits haven’t been seen since then. (It of course does not help the fact that we need to get rid of our debt…)

And consider. If the budget actually repeals Obamacare, wouldn’t passing it be good in its own right? Particularly considering it cannot bind future Congresses?

Scott H on March 14, 2013 at 10:01 PM

It would appear that we are settling for being Democrat light! The slope of “our” line is equal to that of the socialists! Our line should be flat or descending for the next 10 years! If this is the best the Repubs have, it’s high time for a new 2nd party. Or, let the shooting begin!…

PaddyORyan on March 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM

It would appear that we are settling for being Democrat light! The slope of “our” line is equal to that of the socialists! Our line should be flat or descending for the next 10 years! If this is the best the Repubs have, it’s high time for a new 2nd party. Or, let the shooting begin!…

PaddyORyan on March 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM

No, we need a third line… Projected GDP (with a projection that has some semblance of rational thought, not the 8% growth per year idiocy they usually use).

I think we can agree that GDP (or if you prefer Government revenue) is an important part of figuring debt.

If you make $15,000 a year and owe $5,000 you’re screwed.

If you make $150,000 a year and owe $5,000… you haven’t paid your credit card this month yet.

We need our “trendline” of Debt/GDP to go down. We don’t need total debt to go down (although given our past trendline it certainly wouldn’t be a bad thing if it did).

gekkobear on March 14, 2013 at 11:46 PM

This chart clearly shows that Republicans want kids and senior citizens to die. The chart also shows extreme racism in the GOP’s plan.

The Notorious G.O.P on March 15, 2013 at 3:17 AM

As if it’s possible to be even more disappointed … consider that these “estimates” and “projections” are always lower (often, considerably) than reality turns out to be …

ShainS on March 15, 2013 at 1:54 PM


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