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Breaking: Black smoke

posted at 2:43 pm on March 12, 2013 by

(VATICAN CITY) To the disappointment of the rather significant crowd , black smoke just started pouring out of the chimney of the Sistine Chapel.  That means no Pope has been elected, and the cardinals will move on to dinner.

All of this week, there had been concern about whether or not the smoke color would be distinctive.  There wasn’t any issue with that tonight — the smoke was black, and it was prodigious.  In fact, it almost seems as though the chapel itself is on fire.  Whatever adjustments have been made to the smoke signals since 2005, they certainly have been effective at transmitting a no-decision vote.

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Thankfully the Vatican is not located in Manhattan, or Mayor Bloomberg would shut this show down.

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Was there ever a pope elected on the first go-around?

CurtZHP on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Hmm. I didn’t think that there would smoke this soon (I’m on pacific time so my orientation of time may be off). That’s 1vote down, and 4 (my estimated max) to go.

nobar on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

There wasn’t any issue with that tonight — the smoke was black, and it was prodigious. In fact, it almost seems as though the chapel itself is on fire. Whatever adjustments have been made to the smoke signals since 2005, they certainly have been effective at transmitting a no-decision vote.

One of those guys probably threw an old tire in there.

CurtZHP on March 12, 2013 at 2:47 PM

They are letting people from other countries vote for their head of state. How progressive!

Mormontheman on March 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM

The Holy Spirit decides. Just not on his first try.

Rusty Allen on March 12, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I thought they did four votes every day? Was this a primary or a caucus?

Dusty on March 12, 2013 at 3:00 PM

I thought they did four votes every day? Was this a primary or a caucus?

Dusty on March 12, 2013 at 3:00 PM

They’ll have four votes tomorrow.

WisRich on March 12, 2013 at 3:03 PM

That’s 1vote down, and 4 (my estimated max) to go.

[nobar on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM]

There’s a 6 hour difference here based on EST here, so it’s what 5 with EDT and 8 PM, I think, there. You think they’ll work after dinner?

Dusty on March 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Karl Rove refuses to accept the result until he sees more smoke from the Hamilton County suburbs.

Mr. D on March 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM

That’s 1vote down, and 4 (my estimated max) to go.

nobar on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Clearly you haven’t been reading all Ed’s posts.

There are 4 votes per day but only 2 scheduled smoke emissions. Two votes were scheduled for today so it is likely to have been two down.

If you are correct (and I am also) then the first scheduled smoke event tomorrow will be white. I suspect it will take more than 4. I remember watching the news in 1978 … don’t remember how long it was but everyone was impatient.

gh on March 12, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Dusty on March 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Here is the schedule Ed put out earlier. No voting happens after dinner.

Probably prayers, social hour, and maybe a little Jeopardy.

6:30-7:30: Breakfast
7:45: Transfer to the Pauline Chapel
8:15: Mass
9:30 Discussion and voting in the Sistine Chapel (2 ballots)
12:30 Transfer to Domus Santae Marthae
13:00 Lunch
16:00 Transfer to the Palazzo Apostolico
16:50 Voting in the Sistine Chapel (2 ballots)
19:15 Vespers
19:30 Transfer to Domus Santae Marthae
20:00 Dinner

WisRich on March 12, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Just read Ed’s previous post and he seems to imply that the first day has been reduced to one vote … if so, I have missed something since I saw the post on the schedule.

gh on March 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Was there ever a pope elected on the first go-around?

CurtZHP on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

I’m curious as to this as well. There have to be church historians who know this somewhere. If the white smoke had come, surely they’d have told us if it was the first time in x years.

Next vote should start around 9:30 Rome time. Two morning votes Smoke should be up around noon (7 am east coast).

Gingotts on March 12, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Was there ever a pope elected on the first go-around?
CurtZHP on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Never!! Each cardinal votes for himself the first go round, they all have a laugh and then get down to business….Just kidding.

BeachBum on March 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM

WisRich on March 12, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Thanks for the repost. So:

16:50 Voting in the Sistine Chapel (2 ballots)

But due to the secrecy, we have no way to be sure.

gh on March 12, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Ugh. Shep is pushing for women priest on Fox News right now. Looks like EWTN is the only good TV outlet for conclave coverage after all.

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Ugh. Shep is pushing for women priest on Fox News right now. Looks like EWTN is the only good TV outlet for conclave coverage after all.

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Yup. Just discovered that EWTN has a Roku channel. It was nice to see meaningful coverage including theological interviews with some of the front runners.

SPCOlympics on March 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM

They elected a black Pope?

trs on March 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Tomorrow’s headline, somewhere in the LSM:

“Still no pope after 2nd ballot. Are cardinals hopelessly deadlocked?”

JimLennon on March 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Dangit! Thought the black smoke meant that they had chosen the African guy.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 12, 2013 at 3:44 PM

trs on March 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM

D’oh!

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 12, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Ugh. Shep is pushing for women priest on Fox News right now. Looks like EWTN is the only good TV outlet for conclave coverage after all.

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 3:20 PM

The horns and sirens that blew through Rome just now have nothing to do with soccer. They’re just trying to drown out the stupid.

Gingotts on March 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Tomorrow’s headline, somewhere in the LSM:

“Still no pope after 2nd ballot. Are cardinals hopelessly deadlocked?”

JimLennon on March 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM

“Is the Church ungovernable?”

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Does this mean 6 more weeks of winter?

EddieC on March 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Karl Rove refuses to accept the result until he sees more smoke from the Hamilton County suburbs.
Mr. D on March 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM

I just spit my soda.

Rusty Allen on March 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Tomorrow’s headline, somewhere in the LSM:

“Still no pope after 2nd ballot. Are cardinals hopelessly deadlocked?”

JimLennon on March 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM

“Is the Church ungovernable?”

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Just listening today to Rush replay the idiocy from a couple CNN commentators about the conclave suggests that you’re both not far off.

PatriotGal2257 on March 12, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Breaking: Black smoke

…what are they smoking?

KOOLAID2 on March 12, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Breaking: Black smoke

Racist.

Ronnie on March 12, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Breaking: Black smoke

Wailing and gnashing of teeth from the enviro-weenies in 5…4…3…2…

Kingfisher on March 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Black smoke

I do enjoy the complex flavor of Marlboro 54s.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on March 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Ugh. Shep is pushing for women priest on Fox News right now. Looks like EWTN is the only good TV outlet for conclave coverage after all.

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Well, Shep would qualify.

Kingfisher on March 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Was there ever a pope elected on the first go-around?

CurtZHP on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

I don’t know. Personally, I would rather the cardinals take their time and choose wisely.

Kingfisher on March 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Probably prayers, social hour, and maybe a little Jeopardy.

Jeopardy? No conclave is complete without Matlock! ;-)

Kingfisher on March 12, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Breaking: Black smoke

Politically correct version: Smoke of color.

Kingfisher on March 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Was there ever a pope elected on the first go-around?

CurtZHP on March 12, 2013 at 2:46 PM

I’m watching a rerun of the smoke coverage on EWTN, and they just answered this question. According to one of the priests on their panel, a pope has never been chosen on the first ballot in the 800 or so years that they’ve been doing conclaves. In the first thousand years of the Church, however, popes were chosen by acclamation, and then it wasn’t too uncommon to get a pope on the first vote.

JimLennon on March 12, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Tomorrow’s headline, somewhere in the LSM:

“Still no pope after 2nd ballot. Are cardinals hopelessly deadlocked?”

JimLennon on March 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM

“Is the Church ungovernable?”

steebo77 on March 12, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Just listening today to Rush replay the idiocy from a couple CNN commentators about the conclave suggests that you’re both not far off.

PatriotGal2257 on March 12, 2013 at 7:18 PM

http://www.catholicmemes.com/misc/secular-media-conclave-bingo/

workingclass artist on March 13, 2013 at 12:37 AM

ever on first round?

Yep; per USA Today:

The last pope to be named on the first ballot was Pope Gregory XIII in 1572.

In modern times the speediest conclave was the 20-hour-long one in 1939, when Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli became Pope Pius XII after three ballots.

G. Charles on March 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM