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		<title>By: Buy Danish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buy Danish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the extent that there is any possible conflict event of interest, I&#039;d be more inclined to point the finger at Boeing&#039;s decision to open up manufacturing of the Dreamliner in South Carolin- much to the chagrin of the corrupt NLRB And other Friends of BO.


&lt;blockquote&gt;The NTSB and the FAA will not allow Boeing’s test pilots to test the planes to figure out what’s wrong, despite Boeing’s request to do so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This^^ ban was lifted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the extent that there is any possible conflict event of interest, I&#8217;d be more inclined to point the finger at Boeing&#8217;s decision to open up manufacturing of the Dreamliner in South Carolin- much to the chagrin of the corrupt NLRB And other Friends of BO.</p>
<blockquote><p>The NTSB and the FAA will not allow Boeing’s test pilots to test the planes to figure out what’s wrong, despite Boeing’s request to do so.</p></blockquote>
<p>This^^ ban was lifted.</p>
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		<title>By: keep the change</title>
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		<dc:creator>keep the change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is like Jesse Ventura saying, &quot;I&lt;em&gt;&#039;m just asking questions&lt;/em&gt;&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is like Jesse Ventura saying, &#8220;I<em>&#8216;m just asking questions</em>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: fred5678</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred5678</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The NTSB responded to complaints about battery fires on the new Boeing 787 Dreamliner by grounding the planes &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The NTSB didn&#039;t ground the US 787 fleet - the FAA does that. 


NTSB investigates and makes recommendations.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/feb/03/cessna-jet-will-have-sturdier-battery-than-boeing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cessna is redesigning its lithium battery&lt;/a&gt; system after a fire in its Citation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The NTSB responded to complaints about battery fires on the new Boeing 787 Dreamliner by grounding the planes </p></blockquote>
<p>The NTSB didn&#8217;t ground the US 787 fleet &#8211; the FAA does that. </p>
<p>NTSB investigates and makes recommendations.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbian.com/news/2013/feb/03/cessna-jet-will-have-sturdier-battery-than-boeing/" rel="nofollow">Cessna is redesigning its lithium battery</a> system after a fire in its Citation.</p>
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		<title>By: changer1701</title>
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		<dc:creator>changer1701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does Lockhheed Martin gain if Boeing&#039;s planes are grounded? Besides that, shouldn&#039;t the Dreamliner be gorunded until they correct the problem? Fires on airplanes are bad news. I don&#039;t understand Breitbart&#039;s angle here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Lockhheed Martin gain if Boeing&#8217;s planes are grounded? Besides that, shouldn&#8217;t the Dreamliner be gorunded until they correct the problem? Fires on airplanes are bad news. I don&#8217;t understand Breitbart&#8217;s angle here.</p>
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		<title>By: oceansidecon</title>
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		<dc:creator>oceansidecon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason from the grounding is plain and simple.  Li-ion batteries should have never been installed in the aircraft in the first place.  They are far to risky and subject to thermal runaway.  They have taken down aircraft before (fires in cargo holds).  They have no place in the electrical systems of an aircraft.  Heck, there are multiple reports of personal electronic device fires from Li-on batteries during flights in the passenger cabin.  Countless home fires as well.
Until recently, they were banned as cargo in commercial flights.
It&#039;s the batteries and nothing else.
Lockheed doesn&#039;t even manufacturer commercial airliners.

This is a controversy of the World Nut Daily type....well beneath Breitbart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason from the grounding is plain and simple.  Li-ion batteries should have never been installed in the aircraft in the first place.  They are far to risky and subject to thermal runaway.  They have taken down aircraft before (fires in cargo holds).  They have no place in the electrical systems of an aircraft.  Heck, there are multiple reports of personal electronic device fires from Li-on batteries during flights in the passenger cabin.  Countless home fires as well.<br />
Until recently, they were banned as cargo in commercial flights.<br />
It&#8217;s the batteries and nothing else.<br />
Lockheed doesn&#8217;t even manufacturer commercial airliners.</p>
<p>This is a controversy of the World Nut Daily type&#8230;.well beneath Breitbart.</p>
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		<title>By: Doomberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doomberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Good old raving lunatics at Breitbart and their little conspiracies.

lester on February 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pointing out a potential conflict of interest is now a &quot;conspiracy theory?&quot; I guess &quot;conspiracy theory&quot; is another word whose meaning has been completely destroyed by the left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Good old raving lunatics at Breitbart and their little conspiracies.</p>
<p>lester on February 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Pointing out a potential conflict of interest is now a &#8220;conspiracy theory?&#8221; I guess &#8220;conspiracy theory&#8221; is another word whose meaning has been completely destroyed by the left.</p>
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		<title>By: jdpaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdpaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boeing buys parts from Lock-Mart.  Seems like a silly angle Breitbart&#039;s playing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boeing buys parts from Lock-Mart.  Seems like a silly angle Breitbart&#8217;s playing.</p>
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		<title>By: letget</title>
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		<dc:creator>letget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed, sorry to be O/T, but could you or someone else here have a thread on Dr. Carson&#039;s speech at the Prayer Breakfast this morning? Dr. Carson should be what every parent, no matter the shade of skin, can do with a mom/dad/both sees to it their children can make a huge effect on what they do. Dr. Carson had a movie made about him, &lt;em&gt;&#039;Gifted Hands&#039; &lt;/em&gt;and my gosh what a gift the DR. is! IMO, everyone should watch that movie!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/prayer-breakfast-speaker-praises-jesus-gets-political-calls-political-correctness-dangerous-hammers-fiscal-irresponsibility/

Thanks if you see this and feel it should have a thread.
L]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, sorry to be O/T, but could you or someone else here have a thread on Dr. Carson&#8217;s speech at the Prayer Breakfast this morning? Dr. Carson should be what every parent, no matter the shade of skin, can do with a mom/dad/both sees to it their children can make a huge effect on what they do. Dr. Carson had a movie made about him, <em>&#8216;Gifted Hands&#8217; </em>and my gosh what a gift the DR. is! IMO, everyone should watch that movie!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/prayer-breakfast-speaker-praises-jesus-gets-political-calls-political-correctness-dangerous-hammers-fiscal-irresponsibility/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/07/prayer-breakfast-speaker-praises-jesus-gets-political-calls-political-correctness-dangerous-hammers-fiscal-irresponsibility/</a></p>
<p>Thanks if you see this and feel it should have a thread.<br />
L</p>
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		<title>By: RoadRunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoadRunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Lockheed-Martin is producing the L-1011 any more...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Lockheed-Martin is producing the L-1011 any more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good old raving lunatics at Breitbart and their little conspiracies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good old raving lunatics at Breitbart and their little conspiracies.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Eggleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Eggleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Er, Fort Worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, Fort Worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Eggleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Eggleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More on the ferry flight via KOMO - it was a &quot;one-time&quot; flight allowed by the FAA to get the jet, destined for China Southern Airlines, out of the Forth Worth painting facility and back to Washington.  They say that a separate request for a test flight regime is still being considered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the ferry flight via KOMO &#8211; it was a &#8220;one-time&#8221; flight allowed by the FAA to get the jet, destined for China Southern Airlines, out of the Forth Worth painting facility and back to Washington.  They say that a separate request for a test flight regime is still being considered.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Eggleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Eggleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus, there&#039;s one 787 flight in the US today - a Boeing-operated ferry flight between Forth Worth and Everett landing right about now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, there&#8217;s one 787 flight in the US today &#8211; a Boeing-operated ferry flight between Forth Worth and Everett landing right about now.</p>
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		<title>By: Skywise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skywise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the best they could come up with?

Try this administration orchestrating union payback for Boeing moving to North Carolina...
Think the FAA would be oh so concerned about safety if union jobs were on the line?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the best they could come up with?</p>
<p>Try this administration orchestrating union payback for Boeing moving to North Carolina&#8230;<br />
Think the FAA would be oh so concerned about safety if union jobs were on the line?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Eggleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Eggleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/NTSB-says-787-battery-approval-should-be-reconsidered-190219421.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KOMO-TV out of Seattle&lt;/a&gt;, the NTSB has traced the problem to widespread use of lithium-based (I presume lithium-ion) batteries in the 787.  It could spell trouble for Airbus as well as their upcoming A350 is designed with extensive use of lithium-based batteries.

While the battery industry has solved many of the lithium battery problems in the consumer industry (recall that early on, even laptop batteries were exploding), they haven&#039;t exactly fixed them in scaled-up applications, such as the Chevrolet Volt and now the 787.

As for the Lockheed angle, they no longer produce passenger jets, so Breitbart is likely barking up the wrong tree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, via <a href="http://www.komonews.com/news/boeing/NTSB-says-787-battery-approval-should-be-reconsidered-190219421.html" rel="nofollow">KOMO-TV out of Seattle</a>, the NTSB has traced the problem to widespread use of lithium-based (I presume lithium-ion) batteries in the 787.  It could spell trouble for Airbus as well as their upcoming A350 is designed with extensive use of lithium-based batteries.</p>
<p>While the battery industry has solved many of the lithium battery problems in the consumer industry (recall that early on, even laptop batteries were exploding), they haven&#8217;t exactly fixed them in scaled-up applications, such as the Chevrolet Volt and now the 787.</p>
<p>As for the Lockheed angle, they no longer produce passenger jets, so Breitbart is likely barking up the wrong tree.</p>
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		<title>By: tngmv</title>
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		<dc:creator>tngmv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Eggleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Eggleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t underestimate the fact that Boeing&#039;s trying to flee the unionized state of Washington in favor of non-union South Carolina.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t underestimate the fact that Boeing&#8217;s trying to flee the unionized state of Washington in favor of non-union South Carolina.</p>
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