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“The Republican Savior”

posted at 8:08 am on February 7, 2013 by

I remember writing last week that Rubio’s already done himself a world of good politically by playing quarterback for immigration reform, even if he ends up voting no on the Senate bill. He’s proved that he’s willing to legalize illegals, which should help with Latino voters who are otherwise wary of Republicans, and he’s proved that he’s willing to take a leadership role in trying to make it happen. As far as boosting his own national profile goes, the heavy lifting is done irrespective of how he votes.

Here’s the new cover of Time magazine. QED.

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No kidding aside: Palin knew she would be humiliated to the point of no return if she had run. The press would have been like a rabid wolf and a baby chick. Fair? No. Romney would have had an easier time of it.

Seriously: I just don’t personally know one female who likes her.

Marcus on February 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM

If she failed, then Paul Ryan took failure to whole new levels.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Umm.. Ryan comes from a Democratic leaning state that hasn’t gone Republican since 1984. Sarah Palin comes from Alaska. If the Rs had lost Alaska, it would have been a Reagan sized landslide for Obama.

Also, Ryan did much better than Palin in the actual campaign and retains a huge amount of influence.

Quit your weak projection. Rubio knows where he comes from, and the grassroots in Florida still back him.

KingGold on February 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Agreed. Rubio is actually from a “place” and is very proud of his heritage. And I betcha the Miami Cuban community would be tickled pink if he won in 2016. I think that one reason why people were so suspicious of Romney is that he didn’t seem to come from “a place”. Ditto with Obama.. He’s clearly used the African American community, Chicago, etc. to get ahead, but he isn’t really of those communities. (As a sidenote, I think that Jindal’s rejection of his own heritage for political purposes is going to come back and haunt him in 2016.)

Illinidiva on February 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM

So far, Rand Paul is the only Repub who shows passionate independence in his values–you know, like Reagan did.

PattyJ on February 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM

And Perry DID crunch the numbers. He withdrew. She just did it before running.

Marcus on February 7, 2013 at 10:39 AM

So what? It boggles me that folks, both pro- and anti-Palin, asign so many motives and so much thought to her actions that they have absolutely no proof for. We’ll never know how she would have done because she didn’t run. Period. End of story. Full stop.

gryphon202 on February 7, 2013 at 10:44 AM

No kidding aside: Palin knew she would be humiliated to the point of no return if she had run.

Marcus on February 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Would Romney still have beaten her for the nomination? And Palin humiliated? She’d been accused of mass-murder already.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Seriously: I just don’t personally know one female who likes her.

Marcus on February 7, 2013 at 10:43 AM

“How did Nixon win? I don’t know anyone who voted for him.”

–Pauline Kael

gryphon202 on February 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM

We’ll never know how she would have done because she didn’t run. Period. End of story. Full stop.

gryphon202 on February 7, 2013 at 10:44 AM

I can imagine, though. And I do know how Perry did: from 45% to 5% in a matter of about 3 weeks.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM

“Intellectual curiosity”. Illinidive, explain to me in 2 or 3 sentences what that phrase means. I hear it all the time.

Rubio’s the GOP Obama except in one all-important sense: Rubio doesn’t have the base of the GOP.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I don’t think that Rubio is ever going to dive into the policy weeds and learn the minutiae of something like the federal budget ala Ryan. However, this is actually a liability for Ryan if he does decide to run in 2016. Ryan needs more of a “general vision.” However, Ryan (as well as Jindal) have passed the “ready to be Commander-in-Chief” test because of their intellect. I would feel fine if either of those guys had to deal with another 9/11. I feel nervous about Rubio in the same role.

But unlike Palin, I think that Rubio has the ability to get there. Rubio is a good communicator in general; he can do interviews as well as set speeches. There is no way that Palin could do something like the Buzzfeed interview Rubio did without tripping up over a question.

Illinidiva on February 7, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Rubio’s the GOP Obama except in one all-important sense: Rubio doesn’t have the base of the GOP.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 10:35 AM

And who, pray tell, does?

Sarah Palin, who found so much support among the base that she opted not to run?

Ted Cruz or Deb Fischer, each of whom are one or two votes away from a ritual bus-tossing by the purists among us, as Rubio appears to have been (he hasn’t, but I’ll indulge your fanatasy)?

KingGold on February 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

KingGold on February 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

In fairness to them all. When they have had the press, the dims and the R’s spend the same amount of gold and time to destroy them, we might see better how they would fend.

Bmore on February 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

And a Sarah Palin

bluegill on February 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM

You are the first person to bring her up in this thread.

Your unhealthy fixation is noted for the record.

portlandon on February 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Would Romney still have beaten her for the nomination? And Palin humiliated? She’d been accused of mass-murder already.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 10:44 AM

if Sarah Palin had backed the only candidate with a prayer of defeating Obama and the Primary had ended after Florida Mitt Romney would likely have won.

Basilsbest on November 28, 2012 at 12:50 PM

The Mittler brigade blame Palin for Romney’s loss.

Before the election they said Palin’s endorsement meant nothing.

portlandon on February 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

The Mittler brigade blame Palin for Romney’s loss.

Before the election they said Palin’s endorsement meant nothing.

portlandon on February 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Classy.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM

“The Republican Savior”

…Jesus… hasn’t come back yet!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Fact is Rubio will have the same problem the Romney had. He’s an outsider to the base, and they’ll somehow miss going to the polls, and Hillary will be President.

RINOs are people too on February 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM

And a Sarah Palin-worshiping shut-in like you would know what others are enthusiastic about? When you “look around you,” you see life sized Palin dolls propped up in your basement office.

bluegill on February 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM

…you are laying in a bed in moms basement…with your legs wrapped around a life-sized blow-up Palin doll RIGHT NOW…aren’t you?…are the covers on?

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM

And who, pray tell, does?
KingGold on February 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Do not hold your breath for an answer. I’d actually like to see Rubio in the VP slot anyway. The Republicans do well with Governors it seems. I’d like Walker/Rubio.

Saw Santorum on Greta. Oh yeah, he’s running again (eyeroll)

Marcus on February 7, 2013 at 11:22 AM

IOW, the Whigs’ last gasp.

Ward Cleaver on February 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Classy.

thebrokenrattle on February 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I toned it down for your sensitive stomach.

portlandon on February 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Do not hold your breath for an answer. I’d actually like to see Rubio in the VP slot anyway. The Republicans do well with Governors it seems. I’d like Walker/Rubio.

Saw Santorum on Greta. Oh yeah, he’s running again (eyeroll)

Marcus on February 7, 2013 at 11:22 AM

The only way Walker runs is if Ryan doesn’t. Despite some noises to the contrary, I still think that Ryan will end up sniffing around at the possibility. Also, why not go with our best guy at the top of the ticket? The issue with Rubio is that you know he is going to end up dwarfing the actual nominee. I’m sure that this was a calculation with Team Romney.

And yeah Santorum actually thinks that he is in good shape to win because he was the runner up. No one has sat him down and explained to him that this works only when the runner up is a viable general election candidate which creepy and shrill Father Santorum isn’t.

Illinidiva on February 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM

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bluegill on February 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM

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steebo77 on February 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Algunos himnos a Nuestro Salvador.

steebo77 on February 7, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Fact is Rubio will have the same problem the Romney had. He’s an outsider to the base, and they’ll somehow miss going to the polls, and Hillary will be President.

RINOs are people too on February 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Yeah, or whoever the Dems nominate. The guy from Maryland whose name I can’t remember would beat Rubio.

And who, pray tell, does?

KingGold on February 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Whoever the GOPe types tell us is “unelectable”.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Take a listen to Rep. Labrador on the immigration debate. What do you think?

Fallon on February 7, 2013 at 12:21 PM

But unlike Palin, I think that Rubio has the ability to get there. Rubio is a good communicator in general; he can do interviews as well as set speeches. There is no way that Palin could do something like the Buzzfeed interview Rubio did without tripping up over a question.

Illinidiva on February 7, 2013 at 10:53 AM

You don’t understand. Nobody but “electability” fetishists gives a flying fart how well someone does with Buzzfeed or Jon Stewart.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 12:22 PM

You don’t understand. Nobody but “electability” fetishists gives a flying fart how well someone does with Buzzfeed or Jon Stewart.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 12:22 PM

SNL was devastating for Palin. She is ruined with indies. You have to be able to connect with people outside the base.. M’kay.

Illinidiva on February 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM

SNL was devastating for Palin. She is ruined with indies. You have to be able to connect with people outside the base.. M’kay.

Illinidiva on February 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM

And painting Romney as Daddy Warbucks was devastating. Just as painting Rubio as The Token will be devastating. Or painting Rand Paul as a chip off the old block will be devastating. Just keep on letting the media choose your nominee. It’s worked wonders so far!

The GOP is ruined, period. Good luck winning with Marco the Magnificent with only your precious indies. And those additional 5 or 6 Latino votes.

ddrintn on February 7, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Rubio still has to make the cover of Rolling Stone.. :cool:

Dire Straits on February 7, 2013 at 12:44 PM

SNL was devastating for Palin. She is ruined with indies. You have to be able to connect with people outside the base.. M’kay.

Illinidiva on February 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM

And Romney, who was supposed to be immune to that kind of thing, was ruined with the voters who mattered.

But, por supuesto, Rubio will be different.

steebo77 on February 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

I keep thinking that’s the problem. We don’t need saviors. I’ve got one, thanks. I want hard working, honest leadership.

redmama on February 7, 2013 at 12:59 PM

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