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Yes, you can still buy ammo at Wal-Mart

posted at 9:58 am on January 20, 2013 by

We’re still getting e-mails wondering why we haven’t condemned Wal-Mart for caving to the Obama administration and suspending sales of ammunition.  Well, it’s because it never happened.  This rumor started about a week ago, and an announcement from Wal-Mart earlier this week revealed it as entirely false:

CNSNews.com reported Monday that Walmart had suspended further ammunition orders until the findings of the Biden gun-control task force are released.

To set the record straight: Walmart tells CNSNews.com that the store’s ammunition policy has not changed.

“We continue to offer that product to our customers and you know, we’ll continue to do so,” Kory Lundberg, a Walmart spokesman, told us on Tuesday. “We haven’t made any changes in the product mix in that category.”

Walmart continues to stock and sell ammo in its stores, he confirmed.

And in areas of the country where Wal-Mart sells ammunition and firearms, “We’re committed to do so responsibly and safely,” Lundberg said. “We certainly understand there are sportsmen and hunters out there who use these products responsibly, and we want to continue to meet their needs while also continuing to make sure that we’re selling these products in a safe and responsible manner.”

It’s true that a recent run on ammo sales have left some retailers short on stock, but that will rectify itself when the buying spree slows down.  Wal-Mart may be one of the retailers affected, but based on my personal dealings with the chain as a (minor) vendor, I’d guess that they have pretty tough terms with suppliers that put them first in line for any new shipments.  In any case, Wal-Mart continues to sell ammo, has no plans to stop doing so, and apparently never did.

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Last week I picked up 800 rounds of .223 and 500 rounds of 9mm from my local Walmart. I was shocked they had any at all, and lucked out–they happened to be restocking the cabinet when I walked up.

Ever since then, my brother has visited several times, with little success in finding .223. It’s a hot item.

Mohonri on January 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM

That’s good and thanks for debunking the rumor. We all need to be alert to punish or reward companies on this issue. Cabelas just did a good thing in pulling out of a huge Pennsylvania outdoor sports show that banned black rifles. You can like their comment about this on their Facebook page or buy something to reward them.

juliesa on January 20, 2013 at 10:34 AM

What did you “vend” at Wal-Mart, Ed?

KS Rex on January 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM

We all need to be alert to punish or reward companies on this issue.

juliesa on January 20, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Absolutely. As an example, Dick’s Sporting Goods not only stopped selling an EBR [Evil Black Rifle], they cancelled the orders of people who had already paid for them, and unilaterally broke the contract with the manufacturer when they were the exclusive dealer nationwide. The lawyers are already dealing with that [both the customers and the manufacturer]; but I see no reason for free Americans to ever buy anything from them ever again. I have bought backpacking gear from them in the past, but never again.

Bank of America, while denying it, is apparently cancelling the accounts of small manufacturers of firearms and components. There are reports that they are refusing to authorize the use of their credit cards to purchase firearms and ammunition. Since they were major recipients of Federal bailouts, and are a major donor and campaign bundler for Obama; it is plausible. Doing business with them may be counterproductive.

Companies and individuals have freedom of choice. They should not have freedom from consequences.

Subotai Bahadur on January 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM

What did you “vend” at Wal-Mart, Ed?

KS Rex on January 20, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Related to retail security; I was only occasionally involved personally, usually just for consultation. My company did a significant amount of business with them at the time (and may still), but we weren’t a big contractor/vendor from Wal-Mart’s perspective.

Ed Morrissey on January 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM

It was true. I called Walmart HQ to confirm. Maybe they got push back from the public and changed their mind but they did indeed suspend reordering ammo for a time.

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Mohonri on January 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM

I haven’t been able to find any .223 either. A Walmart in Riverside Ca had a few boxes of .45 ACP left so I nabbed those.

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Subotai Bahadur on January 20, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Please provide proof of what you state. This is how bs rumors get started.

Vince on January 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 11:11 AM

At my supercenter in Missouri, they never suspended the sale of ammo during this latest push for gun control.

Vince on January 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

People, Walmart is run by the Waltons out of Bentonville Arkansas. They will be open during the Apocalypse and selling ammunition.

They would sell barbecued dead Canadians if you could get a license for that.

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

At my supercenter in Missouri, they never suspended the sale of ammo during this latest push for gun control.
Vince on January 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

They didn’t suspend the sale of what they had in stock but the person I spoke with week ago at Walmart HQ did indeed confirm they were suspending any new orders to restock their shelves. They continued to sell off what they already had but said until Biden’s recommendations are considered they were going to halt restocking.

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Name your source then.

There’s been a lot of rumor mongering by no-name news outlets and anonymous commentators. This shouldn’t be too hard to verify, but where is the verification?

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Last week I picked up 800 rounds of .223 and 500 rounds of 9mm from my local Walmart. I was shocked they had any at all, and lucked out–they happened to be restocking the cabinet when I walked up.

Ever since then, my brother has visited several times, with little success in finding .223. It’s a hot item.

Mohonri on January 20, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Sorry, but I have to be a bit direct – the reason nobody can find ammo at Walmart, and many other stores, is because of people like you who grab the entire shipment for themselves – and in many cases then show up at gun shows selling it for double the price. A sporting goods clerk at my closest Walmart said he couldn’t even get 2 cases of .223 ammo unloaded and on the shelves before someone grabbed one whole case and ran off with it while his back was turned. The hoarders like you who want it all for themselves are the cause of the empty shelves.

I’ve had no trouble getting ammo of any kind at Sportsman’s Warehouse since they implemented a 3 box limit per visit for any single type of ammo. Until they did that, they had people trying to grab every case of .223 as soon as the pallet was brought out.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Correct. Shades of 2008-9 eh?

Cheaper than Dirt are doing the same thing at a corporate level.

You want some really crappy 5.56 @ $1+ a ROUND? They’ll hook ya up.

:)

Same thing applies to ARs and all AR parts by mid to high level suppliers. People buying armfuls of ARs and parts are not collectors, they are entrepreneurs really. They’ll flipem while the flipping is good.

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM

A sporting goods clerk at my closest Walmart said he couldn’t even get 2 cases of .223 ammo unloaded and on the shelves before someone grabbed one whole case and ran off with it while his back was turned. The hoarders like you who want it all for themselves are the cause of the empty shelves.

That’s like the old adage ‘there won’t be any left for anyone else ‘.

Free market, yah?

EnglishRogue on January 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Cheaper than Dirt are doing the same thing at a corporate level.

You want some really crappy 5.56 @ $1+ a ROUND? They’ll hook ya up.

Same thing applies to ARs and all AR parts by mid to high level suppliers. People buying armfuls of ARs and parts are not collectors, they are entrepreneurs really. They’ll flipem while the flipping is good.

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM

I’ve had a backorder of .223 from Cabela’s for a few weeks that finally shipped a couple days ago. But now that Sportsman’s Warehouse has a purchase limit, I’ve been able to pick up 3 boxes of 5.56 NATO (20 round box, Independence brand, brass) per visit at $8 a box – cheaper than Cabela’s “sale” price when I ordered it.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM & 12:50

Are you one of the hoarders you’re complaining about or are you shooting the ammo you purchase? I’ve bought more ammo in the past month than I have in the past year, but I’ve also shot more and the lines at the firing range suggest that others are as well.

mike_NC9 on January 20, 2013 at 1:13 PM

It pays to shop around. Don’t assume Wally world has the best price. I’ve been able to get plenty of ammo from a local hole in the wall gun shop at prices the big box stores and even online can’t touch. Just regular handgun target stuff tho, nothing fancy.

mike_NC9 on January 20, 2013 at 1:18 PM

They may say they’ll sell it, but no ammo is available for any of mine except junk steel shot for 12-ga.

They have no pistol ammo left in any size. Been like this for awhile.

cane_loader on January 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Err, my source is Walmart. Read it on Breitbart then called Walmart to confirm. Sorry I can’t provide an audio recording of our conversation. You’re welcome to call if you like though it sounds like they changed their tune.

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

They didn’t suspend the sale of what they had in stock but the person I spoke with week ago at Walmart HQ did indeed confirm they were suspending any new orders to restock their shelves. They continued to sell off what they already had but said until Biden’s recommendations are considered they were going to halt restocking.

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I don’t know who you called or talked to but that is pure bs. My Walmart supercenter has never halted the stocking of ammo and does not have any plans to. My source is the manager of the store and I talked to him in person. He also stated that you can’t believe the wild rumors that get circulated about Walmart, whether it’s about guns and ammo, or selling baby seal meat in the deli.

Vince on January 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Vince on January 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I called their corporate HQ.

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 1:49 PM

I’ve had no trouble getting ammo of any kind at Sportsman’s Warehouse since they implemented a 3 box limit per visit for any single type of ammo. Until they did that, they had people trying to grab every case of .223 as soon as the pallet was brought out.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Our local Cabela’s has done the same….5 box limit.

Smart move imho…..how about many having some instead of a few having tons.

tencole on January 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Any recommendations for online ammo sites?

I usually get most my ammo locally, but was going to buy some .260 Rem which is relatively hard to find in my small town.

Norwegian on January 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Are you one of the hoarders you’re complaining about or are you shooting the ammo you purchase? I’ve bought more ammo in the past month than I have in the past year, but I’ve also shot more and the lines at the firing range suggest that others are as well.

mike_NC9 on January 20, 2013 at 1:13 PM

I just shot several mags worth at the range yesterday – and that was just the .223/5.56 – also shot multiple mags of 7.62, 9mm, and .22, and a bunch of 12 gauge. Good day on the range.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

That’s like the old adage ‘there won’t be any left for anyone else ‘.

Free market, yah?

EnglishRogue on January 20, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Not sure what you’re trying to say, but….
Is it really free market when one person tries to corner the market to create a virtual monopoly so they can price gouge?

Here’s a little conspiracy theory for ya – Would you also say “free market” if it turns out to be the government or the anti-gun fanatics who are buying up the ammo just to keep it out of our hands – perhaps destroying what they get?

Our local Cabela’s has done the same….5 box limit.
Smart move imho…..how about many having some instead of a few having tons.

tencole on January 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM

I believe that’s just good business. Better overall business to have more people coming in the store and buying more stuff. Many customers (like me) will just stop shopping at a store that never has what they want. Since they instituted the ammo limit, I’ve bought many other items at Sportsman’s along with my 3 boxes of 5.56.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Name your source then.

There’s been a lot of rumor mongering by no-name news outlets and anonymous commentators. This shouldn’t be too hard to verify, but where is the verification?

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM

I wouldn’t even know what my Walmarts are doing – after 3 visits and no ammo to buy, and now being able to get it at Sportsman’s, I stopped looking for ammo at Walmart.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Since they instituted the ammo limit, I’ve bought many other items at Sportsman’s along with my 3 boxes of 5.56.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

But then that’s also where I bought my AR and 12 gauge.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Any recommendations for online ammo sites?
I usually get most my ammo locally, but was going to buy some .260 Rem which is relatively hard to find in my small town.
Norwegian on January 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Besides cheaperthandirt.com you can try ammoman.com, luckygunner.com or surplusammo.com

They’ve been out of a lot of stuff since Newtown but you can keep trying.

jawkneemusic on January 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

If I’m in line and they’ll sell me the whole case of 1k, the last one,,, and you’re behind me?

Oh well. Shop earlier.

wolly4321 on January 20, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I don’t know what’s going on at any other WallyWorlds, but the 3 I have checked in West Central Florida had a combined total of 8 boxes of 12 ga dove loads, a couple of .25 50 round boxes and that’s about it. And I checked several times over a week. So, I’m not sure I believe what’s coming out of corporate. My eyes tell me different.

Crusader Rabbit on January 20, 2013 at 4:35 PM

I reload and gun owners who are fearful of a shortage of certain kinds of ammo ought to buy some reloading equipment and learn how to use it.

Vince on January 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Buying ammo at Walmart was hard last time. Same deal this time – people eat it up when the supply comes in.

Those people tend to know when the supply comes in (friends of workers at local stores).

I went to my local one today after lunch. They’re very low and still stocking.

So I want to know who this “Walmart HQ” guy is. Otherwise this is BS.

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM

I was by Wally World today and its stock of ammo made Old Mother Hubbard’s cupboard look like Whole Foods.

Cindy Munford on January 20, 2013 at 5:32 PM

People are literally clearing the racks. I’d wager most of them are doing it to resell. Being a capitalist I don’t hold that against them. People will pay the market price.

But WallyWorld hasn’t stopped stocking ammo I bet. Just as Bushmaster didn’t stop the presses.

This is a capacity issue as it was in 08-09.

I do feel sorry for the suckers who are buying 223 from Cheaper than Dirt at 500% above market price. I get it, but it is sad. Barky has put you in chains.

CorporatePiggy on January 20, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Is it really free market when one person tries to corner the market to create a virtual monopoly so they can price gouge?

Yes. And please stop with the “monopoly” and the “price gouge” crap.

Here’s a little conspiracy theory for ya – Would you also say “free market” if it turns out to be the government or the anti-gun fanatics who are buying up the ammo just to keep it out of our hands – perhaps destroying what they get?

dentarthurdent

Yes, anti-gun fanatics who buy ammo are part of the free market. The government on the other hand is not.

xblade on January 20, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Again with the implication that the 2nd amendment is for hunting and sports. Ah well, at least they didn’t cave on the product itself.

Mr. Prodigy on January 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

It’s true that a recent run on ammo sales have left some retailers short on stock, but that will rectify itself when the buying spree slows down.

Never seen anything like it…Having a friend bring me a couple of boxes of 9mm back from up in the local mountains….he called me when he stumbled across a local retailer with stock….not sure how many rounds he bought, but I’m sure he put a dent in their inventory.

It doesn’t seem to be slowing down in L.A. county.

Tim_CA on January 20, 2013 at 7:58 PM

“IS THIS FOR A HANDGUN?”

I bought the last 4 boxes of .22 short ammo at a Maryland Walmart two days ago. The cashier at the sporting goods section, when ringing it up, asked me if it was for a handgun. I asked her why she was asking, and she replied that it was required to complete the purchase. If she did not key the answer into the register, it would not allow the transaction to continue. I answered “no,” and she had to enter “no” each of four times, once for each box. She knew nothing about the reason for the required question and answer. I’ll find the store manager and ask when I go back. Anyone have any ideas?

By the way, there was absolutely no other ammo there but shotgun shells, a couple of boxes of .22 LR and one box of 50 .380 FMJs at $38 a box!

AmericanDad on January 20, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Cindy Munford on January 20, 2013 at 5:32 PM

If I remember correctly, you’re in the Richmond, VA area? In which Wally World did you see all the ammo? There wasn’t any at the Short Pump location a few days ago.

behiker on January 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM

I missed out on their last brick of 40 S&W a few days ago.

viking01 on January 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Consistent with what I was told when I called the local Wal-Mart to check on the CNS allegations. No change in policy, just a very tight supply and high demand.

I also called the local Dick’s and spoke with a manger. Politely advised him I was cutting my customer card in pieces and no longer shopping there. Just making a point.

novaculus on January 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM

I was talking to the ammo guy at the local Walmart. During shortages, when he orders ammo, his little order gun will ask if he’s sure he wants to order the item. He’ll confirm, and it will tell him he can’t order any, as he hasn’t sold any of the item in the last “X” number of days.

He ends up having to talk to someone in Bentonville to explain that he hasn’t sold any because the Walmart warehouse hasn’t had any.

Computer ordering systems are not…quite perfected.

eeyore on January 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Yes, anti-gun fanatics who buy ammo are part of the free market. The government on the other hand is not.

xblade on January 20, 2013 at 7:04 PM

So your answer is yes AND no.
Do we really know who’s buying it all up?…..

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Don’t confuse ‘restocking’ with ‘reordering.’ WalMart’s regional distribution centers may still have plenty of ammunition to keep restocking their client stores for a while without actually reordering any from ammunition vendors. This may have provided the cover for WalMart to claim they hadn’t changed policy when in fact they had for a while.

James on January 20, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Yes. And please stop with the “monopoly” and the “price gouge” crap.

xblade on January 20, 2013 at 7:04 PM

I hope you had the same response about the Starbucks charging NY firemen outrageous prices for water on 9/11.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Yes. And please stop with the “monopoly” and the “price gouge” crap.

Yes, anti-gun fanatics who buy ammo are part of the free market. The government on the other hand is not.

xblade on January 20, 2013 at 7:04 PM

I’d guess you’re one of those hoarders doing the “mine mine all mine” bit – or a price gouger ripping off people at gun shows.
And no – in my opinion that’s NOT free market.
But if anyone is dumb enough to pay those prices, too bad for them. I’ve found other sources for myself who still charge reasonable prices – people who actually want long term customers.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I missed out on their last brick of 40 S&W a few days ago.

viking01 on January 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Try your nearest Sportsman’s Warehouse. They have a company wide policy now of a 3 box limit per purchase – so they actually have a pretty good stock of most ammo – including .223/5.56.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM

I missed out on their last brick of 40 S&W a few days ago.

viking01 on January 20, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Try your nearest Sportsman’s Warehouse. They have a company wide policy now of a 3 box limit per purchase – so they actually have a pretty good stock of most ammo – including .223/5.56.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM

And BTW – my store in Colorado Springs had LOTS of .40 S&W last time I was there.

dentarthurdent on January 20, 2013 at 10:11 PM

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