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Poll: Number of Republicans hopeful about the future hits 21st-century low

posted at 12:19 pm on December 27, 2012 by

Saw this the other day and can’t stop thinking about it. It makes all the sense in the world that conservatives would be despondent after Obama’s re-election. But more despondent than liberals were after the Bushitler’s re-election?

A lot more, as it turns out:

Why are the numbers so much worse for Republicans now than they were for Democrats in 2004? It can’t be because the GOP thinks Obama’s done irreversible damage to the U.S.; Bush-hating liberals thought the same about Dubya. Besides, we’ve got a deep bench for 2016. Is it a demographic thing, with Republicans fearing that they’ll never (or seldom) enjoy power again?

Update: An obvious possibility: It’s not just politics that’s got Republicans down. Democrats in 2004 could console themselves with the fact that the economy was doing fine and their jobs were secure. Not so now.

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Well duh!

gophergirl on December 27, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Is it a demographic thing, with Republicans fearing that they’ll never (or seldom) enjoy power again?

I’m optimistic about the future only because I’ve quit caring about traditional politics and the GOP. The GOP needs to die if the people who vote for the GOP are to survive.

ninjapirate on December 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Demographic changes…. The looming specter of Hillary Clinton… The “deep” bench which includes some lousy candidates…. (cough.. Krispy Kreme… cough).

Illinidiva on December 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Bush-hating liberals thought the same about Dubya.

Such as the Patriot Act? By that time it seemed like it was more bark than bite. The ACA definitely bites.

theperfecteconomist on December 27, 2012 at 12:41 PM

It just may be me, but I think the r’s, generally, are more informed and have a clue about debt and how the US and world is going down the krapper by the day?

It seems no matter what we want our elected to do for the US to help, not very many in dc wants to help not hurt?

It might be nice to see a poll in six months or so to see if it gets worse for r’s/d’s/i’s?
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letget on December 27, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Update: An obvious possibility:

another obvious possibility is that republicans have such an incredible propensity to concoct alternate realities in which they are right, they actually believed their own campaign rhetoric.

sesquipedalian on December 27, 2012 at 1:06 PM

sesquipedalian on December 27, 2012 at 1:06 PM

As opposed to the liberal “reality” that insists that an ever decreasing percentage of the population can continue to support an ever increasing percentage of the population via entitlements forever as long as we keep borrowing and spending money we don’t have?

hopeful on December 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Lefties are totes fine with maxing out the credit card… Try to engage them and they’ll tell you that 16 trillion in debt is totally okay.

Illinidiva on December 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

We are down because we know that our Republic is past the point of no return. The Looters have the majority which means there is no “fixing this” possible short of total collapse and revolution.

wildcat72 on December 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM

It’s because the repubs are worthless piles of dren that cave to the libs every chance they get.

Dr. Frank Enstine on December 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Bush-hating liberals thought the same about Dubya.

Such as the Patriot Act? By that time it seemed like it was more bark than bite. The ACA definitely bites.

theperfecteconomist on December 27, 2012 at 12:41 PM

That’s the thing… When the right makes a power-grab that fundamentally changes the country, the left doesn’t get too down because they know that when the pendulum swings their way, they’ll be able to grab that power for themselves and abuse it to no end.

When the left makes a power-grab, we know that there’s no chance of being rid of it, and that when the pendulum swings, the newly claimed power only makes the right-wing statists a little more indistinguishable from the left-wing statists.

Meanwhile, a true shift of the nation toward freedom is a very rare occurrence… The chart doesn’t go far enough back to see the reaction among conservatives and liberals to Reagan’s breaking of the Air Traffic Controller’s union. It’s the only true lasting conservative change in America that I can think of that’s even somewhat recent.

Gingotts on December 27, 2012 at 2:06 PM

another obvious possibility is that republicans have such an incredible propensity to concoct alternate realities in which they are right, they actually believed their own campaign rhetoric.

sesquipedalian on December 27, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Yours is the ideology of the stupid, and the morons have taken over. Pew Research verified it. We’ve discussed it.

The Count on December 27, 2012 at 3:49 PM

I had every hope for America. I thought we were destined for greatness in the 21st Century, but then November 6th, 2012 happened. I realized we had become too decadent. I doubt the next world megapower is going to champion democracy or human freedom.

Thanks for destroying America, Leftists!

thuja on December 27, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Why are the numbers so much worse for Republicans now than they were for Democrats in 2004? It can’t be because the GOP thinks Obama’s done irreversible damage to the U.S.; Bush-hating liberals thought the same about Dubya.

You’re a complete, dithering, idiot – and you’re incapable of a single thread of cogent, coherent, cognitive though.

For Christ’s sake, save us all further pain and Stop pretending you can.

williamg on December 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM

*thought

williamg on December 27, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Conservatives smarter, more aware, more in tune than liberals.

kurtzz3 on December 27, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I’ve learned to always expect the worst. That way, I’m never disappointed.

SagebrushPuppet on December 27, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Besides, we’ve got a deep bench for 2016. Is it a demographic thing, with Republicans fearing that they’ll never (or seldom) enjoy power again?

Not really just that. Conservatives, the BASE of the party know that even if the Republican party gains power the most likely result will be continued regressive illiberal Democrat like governance when it does have power.

astonerii on December 27, 2012 at 10:25 PM

This is where we are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2M2b-Bpv_I

williamg on December 27, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Watching your nation being led and run by a cabal of stupid parasites and the totally worthless crap who vote for them, how can you be optimistic?

TexasJew on December 28, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Update: An obvious possibility: It’s not just politics that’s got Republicans down. Democrats in 2004 could console themselves with the fact that the economy was doing fine and their jobs were secure. Not so now.

True.

Norwegian on December 28, 2012 at 11:50 AM

It is called “Human Nature” and further analyzing this poll is stupid and dumb. Of course I am not optimistic about the next 4 years but I am always optimistic about America. We survived far worse than Obama and not only we survived but we prospered and we have been the most powerful nation on the planet for a long time and we will continue to do so for at least another century… In 1890 the United States became the most powerful economy in the world and that was just over 20 years after the “CIVIL WAR”… WE survived WWI and WW II and the Great Depression and right after the end of the Depression and the WW II we became the world most powerful Super Power… Do you even understand what is are World Wars and Great Depression compared to what we are in now? If you think that we are worse now than during that time then you are very ignorant about history…

mnjg on December 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM

If the conversation here on HotAir, in the months prior to the election, is any indicator, it is because lots of people were convinced beyond all doubt that Mr Obama couldn’t possibly win. If elections were decided by a rational appraisal of the information they would have been correct, but elections are decided by sentiment.

I suspect that for many people, Mr Obama’s 2nd victory wasn’t just the loss of an election, but rather the loss of a world-view; a philosophical trauma on the scale of discovering that a favorite view from a window of one’s house has only ever been a screen-saver.

YiZhangZhe on December 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Ability or inability to reason mathematically, economically, and politically may be a cause of one’s outlook and of one’s party affiliation.

Marsili.us on December 31, 2012 at 11:33 AM