Michele Bachmann would be a disaster as speaker.

alwaysfiredup on December 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM
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listens2glenn on December 23, 2012 at 8:17 AM

She’s a bombthrower. I admit we need people in the House who will be ideological hawks, but those people do not make good leaders. Leaders have to compromise and have the confidence of their whole party, not just a piece of it. Bachmann does not compromise and does not have the confidence of her peers (if she did, she’d have had some kind of leadership position in the House by now). She is not capable of doing the job.

I’m sure that Cantor wouldn’t mind a President Ryan and Speaker Cantor scenario.

Illinidiva on December 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

I would mind a speaker Cantor scenario. He’s no better than Boehner. It has to be someone with cred on both sides (TP/Est. gop). Cantor has absolutely none.

Rep. Jim Jordan

RedRobin145 on December 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Seconded.

You don’t pass watered down garbage just for the sake of passing something and being “bipartisan”.

Boner’s plans are exactly that: pure garbage. Raising taxes now with the promise of making some cuts in the future? How could anyone be that stupid to think that’s going to work?

Umm.. the taxes are going up anyway on January 2nd. There is nothing that Boehner can do to stop it. Apparently you live in a parallel world where Mitt Romney is President-elect. Winning the 2012 election was the only way that all the tax cuts were going to stay in place.

Each and every time I hear some deservedly anonymous online yip-yop intimating dourly that Republican control of the House in ’14 is (magically; somehow) contingent upon Ol’ Weepy retaining control of the sippy cup he’s currently using as a gavel: I simply can’t help but to start giggling, uncontrollably.

Kent18 on December 23, 2012 at 5:45 AM

I’m all for effectiveness. I think that Ryan would be very good as Speaker. But Ryan would prefer to be President.

Michele Bachmann would be a disaster as speaker.

alwaysfiredup on December 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

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I am starting to think that is their plan all along. I am seriously starting to believe that many of these people acting like “hard core” conservatives are actually Democrats. They are doing this on purpose to ensure the Republicans can’t get anything done and the House is given to the Democrats. They are sabotaging the Republican party and helping the Democrats.
crosspatch on December 22, 2012 at 5:44 PM

I agree. It’s getting old and they aren’t helping.

William Eaton on December 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

This!

The real problem is not the good and bad of Plan B, but Boehner’s constant need to negotiate with Obama with hopes trying to find some grand bargain. That has been shown time and again to be a complete waste of time. I could stomach Boehner trying to work with Reid, but not Obama who is just not a serious person.

Boehner has got to go, I am not saying Ryan is the answer either, but we now know what Boehner brings to the table and he is just not leadership material. We need to find someone at least who sees the futility of talking to Obama. Either talk to the senate (Reid) or just pass something that will make most Republicans happy and call it a day. But Obama, who now is running around Hawaii, is just not a serious politician, leader or person, and you need someone serious to negotiate with if you are trying to find a compromise that is worth people putting their political asses on the line over.

Boehner and his mouthpieces like Swamp Yankee despise conservatism and embrace ruling-power control of those they view as the unwashed proletariat.

Boehner is a total failure at both. You can block Obama, or give him what he wants and make him own it. Boehner is on track to somehow do what should have been almost impossible: make the GOP responsible for Obama’s policies. But that’s OK because – uh oh! – otherwise there might be a recession!

Hey Boehner, there was an election a couple months ago. The economy lost. Get off the train tracks.

Michele Bachmann would be a disaster as speaker. We need someone to keep both tea party and establishment GOP together. What about that Tom Price fellow, could he do it? It won’t be easy.

alwaysfiredup on December 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

More like we need to defeat the Establishment. Seriously what are they good for?

Who’s your candidate to replace Boehner if Ryan is so terrible?

thebrokenrattle on December 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Rep. Jim Jordan

If Boehner had any integrity, he’d resign.

JPeterman on December 22, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Truth. He lost a vote of no confidence.

Michele Bachmann would be a disaster as speaker. We need someone to keep both tea party and establishment GOP together. What about that Tom Price fellow, could he do it? It won’t be easy.

Who’s your candidate to replace Boehner if Ryan is so terrible?

thebrokenrattle on December 22, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Michele Bachmann – who Boner has been stabbing in the back for the last 6+ months.

And you need a refresher on the Constitution and politics. Bills need to be passed by the Senate and signed by the President. The full tax cut isn’t going to happen. Barry will get his pound of flesh so that his leeches err voters can feel better about the fact that they’re losers. The Rs are going to be able to block any Barry excesses but entitlement reform and spending cuts won’t come. The only way that entitlement reform passes.. President Paul Ryan or extremely influential VP Paul Ryan. You think Butterball is going to pass serious Medicare reform..

Illinidiva on December 22, 2012 at 5:23 PM

You got it bass ackwards as usual.

You don’t pass watered down garbage just for the sake of passing something and being “bipartisan”.

Boner’s plans are exactly that: pure garbage. Raising taxes now with the promise of making some cuts in the future? How could anyone be that stupid to think that’s going to work?

You sound like the type that supported Mittens in the primary because we needed a moderate who wasn’t too polarizing. Good job.

crosspatch on December 22, 2012 at 5:44 PM

As far as I’m concerned the time for your ways have passed. Time to rid the party of the squishes. Heels firmly in the ground. Better that I guess than up the ass. I’ll still be thinking of you and yours come Inauguration Day though. ; )

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Does the public automatically blame republicans or does the liberal media do this? Republicans should stop worrying what the liberal media is going to write. Someone needs to tell the american people the truth.

LevinFan on December 22, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Who’s your candidate to replace Boehner if Ryan is so terrible?

Compromise bills will thus have to be a bit more liberal than they are now in hopes of getting to 218 with some combination of House progressives and centrist Republicans.

Exactly the point I have been trying to make. The more the “conservative” Republicans dig in their heels, the more it pushes things to the LEFT. They get the opposite result of what they are trying to accomplish. Rather than engaging and trying to steer things more to the right, they are demanding full right rudder or nothing, and they end up getting nothing while the ship moves more to the left.

It is this pig-headed behavior that is actually making things worse. So lets say the knucleheads get their way. Say the entire House votes eleventy zillion to zero for some far right spending bill. It dies in the Senate. The people start DEMANDING that the House produce something that can be passed to at least reduce the pain. They refuse. 2014 comes along, the Republicans are thrown out of the House, the Democrats now hold all three seats of power and things move even FARTHER to the left.

I am starting to think that is their plan all along. I am seriously starting to believe that many of these people acting like “hard core” conservatives are actually Democrats. They are doing this on purpose to ensure the Republicans can’t get anything done and the House is given to the Democrats. They are sabotaging the Republican party and helping the Democrats.

Go find a ditch to die in.

lostmotherland on December 21, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Must be true, I still see it posted here at HA.

That’s it? The man gets a lifetime rating of 91.69 for his 13 years by the ACU and he’s still a RINO? What do you need to score to avoid that label?

thebrokenrattle on December 22, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Those by themselves are pretty bad.

Medicare Part D: Huge unfunded entitlement. Is that what a real conservative supports?

Raising the debt ceiling: This is even worse. Ryan can’t use the excuse that he was supporting a GOP PResident. Most of us conservatives realize how dire the fiscal situation is yet Ryan votes to raise the debt ceiling??? WTF??

Also voted for TARP and the auto bailout.

And this is to mention just a few things. He has plenty of other bad votes, look it up.

I know.. shocking that Ryan is looking out for his career considering that he has been aiming for the Presidency since his 20s. I’m not sure why conservatives would be opposed to this since Ryan is preferable to most of the other possible nominees. And yes Ryan supported Plan B because he lives in the real world, not the alternative universe where Romney is President-Elect. In this universe Ryan would have resigned his House seat already as VP-Elect.

Illinidiva on December 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Looks like you and Ryan both need a refresher on the Constitution.

All spending bills originate in the House. They do not have to compromise and go back on their word by raising taxes on those making more than a million.

You think if the situation was reversed that Pelosi would be bending over for a GOP president?

At least the Left has a backbone and sticks to their principles unlike so called conservatives like yourself.

And yes Ryan supported Plan B because he lives in the real world

Illinidiva on December 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Is that the same reason he voted for the raising of the debt ceiling? And the auto bailout?