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Correction of the day

posted at 10:12 am on December 21, 2012 by

This note from Slate says volumes:

In a Dec. 20 “Crime” blog post, Justin Peters referred to the AR-15 semi-automatic as an “assault rifle.” Though the AR-15 could be correctly referred to as an “assault weapon” or an “assault-style rifle,” an “assault rifle” specifically refers to a rifle with fully automatic firing capability.

This shows just how meaningless the term “assault weapon” is.  Every weapon is an “assault weapon” if used to assault someone.  That’s as true of an AR-15 as it is of a machete, or a steak knife, or a rock.  The term “assault weapon” comes straight to us from the Department of Redundancy Department.

The term is nothing more than a political artifice which means “guns that look scary.”  This is as close as you’ll get to an admission of that from the media.

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We should work to rename fully-automatic weapons as “Muppet peaceful Smurf guns”. Those don’t sound like they’d be used in mass killings anytime soon.

Nethicus on December 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

An “assault weapon” is what Dear Leader says it is…why do you hate children?

d1carter on December 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Doesn’t matter now. Everyone is already calling them assault rifles and deriding as stupid anyone who tries to tell them what an assault rifle really is.

The narrative is out there, and we lost it again.

The Schaef on December 21, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Same thing applies to the words “Magazine” and “Clip”.

A Clip is a single piece of steel that holds rounds (aka cartriges) (aka bullets … :rolleyes:) that gets stuffed into the magazine of a weapon such as an M1 carbine. A magazine is where rounds are stored. A box Magazine is a storage device that when attached to the weapon also supplies the rounds to battery when the bolt pickup takes the top round to chamber. It always bugs me when people use Clip for Magazine, but even people in the armed forces interchange the terms now.

I’ve had conversations with people who were in the military and when I use the term Revolver, they used “pistol” and the term pistol applies to revolvers and or semi-automatics.

Needless to say (for me anyways) there is no self respecting armed forces on the face of the planet that would go into battle with a semi-automatic ONLY, “assault rifle”.

The ignorance out there is astounding at times.

44Magnum on December 21, 2012 at 10:47 AM

Dear 44 magnum,

Please check the dictionary, you will find a revolver is not a pistol anyway(s).

FOWG1 on December 21, 2012 at 11:06 AM

A Clip is a single piece of steel that holds rounds (aka cartriges) (aka bullets … :rolleyes:) that gets stuffed into the magazine of a weapon such as an M1 carbine. A magazine is where rounds are stored.

Ahhh, but let’s not forget that the M1 Garand uses an en-bloc “clip” and no “magazine.”

I avoid the term “clip” and use “stripper” instead.

Ed, while your point is valid – the left is successfully turning a look-alike rifle into something it’s not – a “true” assault rifle. They interchange words like “automatic” instead of “semi-automatic” and there’s a huge difference between the two. We had a soundbite on our local radio station from a guy who said “There’s no reason for people to own machine guns…” and not one reporter called him out on it.

Kudos to Slate for trying to correct the situation – although I think the average American won’t appreciate the difference – it is there.

Hill60 on December 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM

“Assault” describes a behavior, not an object.

CrustyB on December 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM

I avoid the term “clip” and use “stripper” instead.

Hill60 on December 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Oh yeah, that doesn’t add to the confusion for ignorant people. *eyeroll* Now they think you load your gun with a nubile nekid woman, instead of a small bit of metal……….

;)

GWB on December 21, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Don’t tell anybody, but but I am capable of wreaking far more havoc with the average deer rifle than a Lanza, Loughner, or a Holmes can with a Bushmaster AR carbine.

M240H on December 21, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Ahhh, but let’s not forget that the M1 Garand uses an en-bloc “clip” and no “magazine.”

Hill60 on December 21, 2012 at 11:12 AM

As long as we’re all picking nits…….

The M-1 Garand has an internal magazine, into which the en-bloc clip is inserted.

;-)

Solaratov on December 21, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Don’t tell anybody, but but I am capable of wreaking far more havoc with the average deer rifle than a Lanza, Loughner, or a Holmes can with a Bushmaster AR carbine.

M240H on December 21, 2012 at 11:44 AM

You might check out WetheArmed.com; and look in their archives for the “tactical lever action”.

Also, Crusader Training offers classes in the ‘tactical’ use of lever action rifles.

Tactical is as tactical does.

Solaratov on December 21, 2012 at 11:53 AM

All this gun talk is turning me on and old lady Feinstein is telling me not to wear patent leather shoes to the dance ‘cuz she’s trying to protect my virtue.

texacalirose on December 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Politicians count on voters making the same mistake, and thinking that a ban on assault weapons means a ban on fully automatic assault rifles. Same with the term automatic. They count on voters thinking that semi-automatic means thousands of rounds per minute, and not think of a weapon like a revolver which is actually semi-automatic.

vegconservative on December 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM

texacalirose on December 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM

LOL!

a weapon like a revolver which is actually semi-automatic.

vegconservative on December 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM

It might be a nit, but a revolver is not semi-automatic. A semi-automatic loads the next round into the chamber using the energy of the just-fired round. A revolver only loads the next round into firing position as the hammer is drawn back manually (by trigger pull or direct action on the hammer).

GWB on December 21, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Doesn’t matter now. Everyone is already calling them assault rifles and deriding as stupid anyone who tries to tell them what an assault rifle really is.

The narrative is out there, and we lost it again.

The Schaef on December 21, 2012 at 10:25 AM

I don’t at all think the narrative has been lost by sane people (we are pro-self-responsibility and that includes our own self defense when or if needed, and pro-gun for a variety of reasons, the most important of which is because we accept that we are at Liberty to own guns; this excludes the anti-gun people).

What the anti-gun people have done is prove they are (again) nincompoops and academically nonsensical stooges where guns are concerned, among other areas like the Constitution and in many other cases, sanity (Joyce Carol Oats for example of the latter, no, wait, as all of that).

We see yet again and again how the Media is simply a group from among that Left who repeats nonsense ad infinitum — I think what it is is that the Left is comprised of people who are desperate to be a part of their ‘incrowd’ or whatever (peer pressure, pressure to conform, must be ‘acceptable’ to the cooler members and show that they are). Those in Media just repeat what they’re told, what they hear, what they read in HuffPo and Kos and in the MoveOn newsletters.

We continue to see how the Left is thoughtless in so many ways, is so inexact and unstudied and lacks conscientiousness on so many levels. They haven’t “won,” they’ve just again proven what losers they are.

Lourdes on December 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Essentially, the Left wants those “scary looking big guns” banned. So they say now. But haven’t we been hearing for years already how they want “hand guns” banned?

I think it’s reasonable to assume that the Left wants guns banned. Any, all of them. Because only the Left can have guns and only if no one else does. Or something.

Lourdes on December 21, 2012 at 12:41 PM

I don’t at all think the narrative has been lost by sane people

The sane people aren’t the ones for whom the narrative is required. I just had a lunchtime conversation among the people in my office, and my boss equated semi-autos with full-autos yet again, and made 100 rounds/min sound like a lot of bullets (i.e. “brrraaaap”). And he’s not a dummy, just someone concerned about young lives.

We see yet again and again how the Media is simply a group from among that Left who repeats nonsense ad infinitum

But those are the stories that get embedded. And Piers Morgan comes out looking like a vanguard of decency against all them “gun nuts”.

The one thing that frustrates me more than the “we’re the ones with the fact-based, rational argument against those paranoid gun-clingers, and also, won’t you think of the children… THE CHILDREN?!?” arguments, is the fact that it’s sinking in.

The Schaef on December 21, 2012 at 1:29 PM

My firearms do not include my scariest big (psycho-acoustic) weapon, a stand of Highland “assault” pipes! :-)

Olo_Burrows on December 22, 2012 at 4:56 AM