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NEA, SEIU and AFSCME in Secret Negotiations

posted at 4:51 pm on December 10, 2012 by

The National Education Association is working more closely than ever before with its counterparts in organized labor. NEA, SEIU and AFSCME teamed up to fund a series of ads targeting key lawmakers in the fiscal cliff negotiations and they are the driving force behind today’s “day of action” rallies in a number of cities.

While three of the largest public employee unions in the nation are cooperating on external communications and operations, they are also crafting an internal agreement that would establish a détente over competition for members. A group of high-level NEA officials met with teams from SEIU and AFSCME last week to put together a deal that would establish jurisdictions for the individual unions, similar to the arrangement NEA made with AFT after the failed attempt at national merger in 1998.

The two national teachers’ unions and many of their state affiliates made “no raid” agreements – pledges not to try to recruit the other organization’s members. There have been hiccups along the way and a number of affiliates that refused to go along, but for the most part the cutthroat competition for members is a thing of the past.

SEIU and AFSCME don’t represent teachers, but they sometimes compete with the teachers’ unions for education support employees. Nevertheless, it shouldn’t be too much of a hardship for each side to agree to stay away from the other’s members. Once that’s in place, it will pave the way for all the public sector unions to cooperate more frequently and efficiently.

The days when NEA stood far apart from the broader labor movement are gone. The AFL-CIO was once shunned by NEA delegates, but now more than one-quarter of NEA members are affiliated with the labor federation. This helps NEA in projecting political power, but could hurt its “professional association” image and embroil it in issues far removed from education.

Today’s union movement is almost entirely a public sector union movement. It only stands to reason that the largest public sector union would take a larger part.

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I despise AFSCME. When I worked one summer at a state historic site (NY) I had to join that union and pay dues even though I was not eligible for any union benefits. And I was paid minimum wage. Nothing more than paying a kickback.

rbj on December 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM

… and they are the driving force behind today’s “day of action” rallies in a number of cities.

My idea for a counter protest:

We force them into an alley, at one end of which there is a bulldozer.

We bring a bulldozer in from the other end of the alley and drive the two bulldozers towards each other, squishing them all like the disease-spreading cockroaches that they are.

How does that sound?

UltimateBob on December 10, 2012 at 5:10 PM

My idea for a counter protest:

We force them into an alley, at one end of which there is a bulldozer.

We bring a bulldozer in from the other end of the alley and drive the two bulldozers towards each other, squishing them all like the disease-spreading cockroaches that they are.

How does that sound?

UltimateBob on December 10, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Perfect actually.

Viper1 on December 10, 2012 at 5:14 PM

The days of teaching being an honorable profession are long gone.

onlineanalyst on December 10, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Gee, if businesses did that, wouldn’t it be monopolistic restraint of trade?

Some animals are more equal than others.

ConservativeLA on December 10, 2012 at 5:34 PM

The two national teachers’ unions and many of their state affiliates made “no raid” agreements

Which, ironically, Obama’s justice department just fined several silicon alley companies for doing… Illegally…

I await its investigation into this criminal activity which surely deprives individuals of fair wages…

Skywise on December 10, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Next chance we get, disbanding public sector unions should be #1 priority. They were enable by executive order, and they can be disabled by that, then by legislation. They’re a cancerous tumor on government and government education at all levels.

petefrt on December 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Kinda reminds me of Apalachin.

forest on December 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Three most likely outcome of the meeting:

1.) They organize Occupy Wall Street, v2.0
2.) They combine to form NEASEIUAFSCME
3.) They build a giant dirigible to escape the wrath of the Mayan calendar, which will wipe away all the scabs from the face of the earth, then they will return to establish their union utopia on earth.

Glenn Jericho on December 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM

A group of high-level NEA officials met with teams from SEIU and AFSCME last week to put together a deal that would establish jurisdictions for the individual unions, similar to the arrangement NEA made with AFT after the failed attempt at national merger in 1998.

When corporations do that it’s called collusion.

JeffWeimer on December 10, 2012 at 8:32 PM

My idea for a counter protest:

We force them into an alley, at one end of which there is a bulldozer.

We bring a bulldozer in from the other end of the alley and drive the two bulldozers towards each other, squishing them all like the disease-spreading cockroaches that they are.

How does that sound?

UltimateBob on December 10, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Any chance of achieving fusion?

Kraken on December 11, 2012 at 4:51 AM

Where is Hal Holbrooke and his fellow star chamber associates when you need them?

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on December 11, 2012 at 9:13 AM

The second I saw the headline my immediate thought was, “What could go wrong?”

Sterling Holobyte on December 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM

How does that sound?

UltimateBob on December 10, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Sounds good only if the dozer has a windshield.

Mr. Arrogant on December 11, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Any chance of achieving fusion?

Kraken on December 11, 2012 at 4:51 AM

You mean, like Brundlefly?

UltimateBob on December 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Will Mike Antonucci keep posting about labor issues?

I like these posts, similar to how I like LaborUnionReport’s posts on RedState.

22044 on December 11, 2012 at 12:33 PM