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		<title>By: ObamaCare Update: the Carnage Begins &#124; The Fog of Law</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/11/15/the-coming-doctor-shortage/comment-page-1/#comment-130832</link>
		<dc:creator>ObamaCare Update: the Carnage Begins &#124; The Fog of Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] fields. ABC gives us this headline: &#8220;Doctor Shortage Could Cause Health Care Crash.&#8221;  (Hat tip.) Hey, we told you [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fields. ABC gives us this headline: &#8220;Doctor Shortage Could Cause Health Care Crash.&#8221;  (Hat tip.) Hey, we told you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Green_Bay_Packers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green_Bay_Packers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I got this e-mail today.. I get something similar about once a week.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;A client of ours in Wisconsin has an URGENT need for General Surgery call coverage. 10 days a month plus one weekend per month. ASAP for 6 months. Must be board certified. Active WI license and DEA. 
 
***Competitive pay package including: travel, lodging, and malpractice coverage***
 
Please get back to me ASAP if you or anybody you know will be interested in this locum opportunity.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated doctors will return to general practice – or begin new careers simonizing cars.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have no understanding of my profession, the forces at work driving reimbursment, the time or effort it takes to train.  

&lt;strong&gt;You have not a CLUE of the demand for my services.&lt;/strong&gt;  

As the physicians in the baby boom generation retire, there will be a paucity of general surgeons to deal with the demand. This is true with almost every specialty, except maybe pediatrics.  

The current job I have went vacant for a year before I filled it.  There a places practically BEGGING for help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>I got this e-mail today.. I get something similar about once a week.</strong> </em></p>
<p><em>A client of ours in Wisconsin has an URGENT need for General Surgery call coverage. 10 days a month plus one weekend per month. ASAP for 6 months. Must be board certified. Active WI license and DEA. </p>
<p>***Competitive pay package including: travel, lodging, and malpractice coverage***</p>
<p>Please get back to me ASAP if you or anybody you know will be interested in this locum opportunity.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated doctors will return to general practice – or begin new careers simonizing cars.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have no understanding of my profession, the forces at work driving reimbursment, the time or effort it takes to train.  </p>
<p><strong>You have not a CLUE of the demand for my services.</strong>  </p>
<p>As the physicians in the baby boom generation retire, there will be a paucity of general surgeons to deal with the demand. This is true with almost every specialty, except maybe pediatrics.  </p>
<p>The current job I have went vacant for a year before I filled it.  There a places practically BEGGING for help.</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Holobyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sterling Holobyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;At some point, history will see Obama as the President that returned SLAVERY to the United States!

Freddy on November 15, 2012 at 3:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, that would be ironic, wouldn&#039;t it?
All the people heralding his election(and re-election) as a turning point in race relations.  Not realizing that he just turned it around to go backward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At some point, history will see Obama as the President that returned SLAVERY to the United States!</p>
<p>Freddy on November 15, 2012 at 3:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, that would be ironic, wouldn&#8217;t it?<br />
All the people heralding his election(and re-election) as a turning point in race relations.  Not realizing that he just turned it around to go backward.</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Holobyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sterling Holobyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Was I prudent or a coward, I really don’t know?

talking_mouse on November 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

An Obama supporter with a scalpel?  Prudent, I&#039;d say, given the rabid hatred shown toward anyone who is NOT an Obama-worshipper by some of his followers.  I wouldn&#039;t take the chance of something being added to my body, or missing from it, or the general chance of shoddy workmanship, especially if he is retiring, making it harder to sue his practice for malpractice.

Now, telling him &lt;strong&gt;after&lt;/strong&gt; the surgery is another story.  As long as you are not going to be going to him for any procedures later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Was I prudent or a coward, I really don’t know?</p>
<p>talking_mouse on November 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>An Obama supporter with a scalpel?  Prudent, I&#8217;d say, given the rabid hatred shown toward anyone who is NOT an Obama-worshipper by some of his followers.  I wouldn&#8217;t take the chance of something being added to my body, or missing from it, or the general chance of shoddy workmanship, especially if he is retiring, making it harder to sue his practice for malpractice.</p>
<p>Now, telling him <strong>after</strong> the surgery is another story.  As long as you are not going to be going to him for any procedures later.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the only solution will be the nationalizing of all Doctors.  The Federal government will simple have to tell medical students what fields they are allowed to study in, and where they will be allowed to practice medicine.  This will be the final solution to the impending shortage of doctors in the poorest neighborhoods.  Forced government servitude at it&#039;s worst.

At some point, history will see Obama as the President that returned SLAVERY to the United States!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the only solution will be the nationalizing of all Doctors.  The Federal government will simple have to tell medical students what fields they are allowed to study in, and where they will be allowed to practice medicine.  This will be the final solution to the impending shortage of doctors in the poorest neighborhoods.  Forced government servitude at it&#8217;s worst.</p>
<p>At some point, history will see Obama as the President that returned SLAVERY to the United States!</p>
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		<title>By: The process &#171; Copacabana</title>
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		<dc:creator>The process &#171; Copacabana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] now shall we? Why not! This is all the fun stuff that you voted for so here it is! Hooray! Also, here. And here. So, if you&#8217;re in the profession, maybe you tighten up now a bit? I know my sister [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] now shall we? Why not! This is all the fun stuff that you voted for so here it is! Hooray! Also, here. And here. So, if you&#8217;re in the profession, maybe you tighten up now a bit? I know my sister [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DrAllecon</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrAllecon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated doctors will return to general practice – or begin new careers simonizing cars.

plewis on November 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe they can saturate a little my way then.  As a family practice doctor there are several month long waits to get to see one of just 3 spinal orthopedic specialists in a three hour diameter.  There is only a small handful of psychiatrists which means that I do the bulk of the prescriptions for psychiatric medication while my patients see psychologists (thank heavens there are a few of those) and the dermatologists have such a long waiting list that they don&#039;t even take down names.  The patients just call daily hoping there&#039;s a cancellation.

I&#039;ve never seen nor heard of medical specialists saturation.  Or do you expect to see on Craigslist: Single White Radiologist, willing to put in long hours in the dark?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated doctors will return to general practice – or begin new careers simonizing cars.</p>
<p>plewis on November 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM </p>
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<p>Maybe they can saturate a little my way then.  As a family practice doctor there are several month long waits to get to see one of just 3 spinal orthopedic specialists in a three hour diameter.  There is only a small handful of psychiatrists which means that I do the bulk of the prescriptions for psychiatric medication while my patients see psychologists (thank heavens there are a few of those) and the dermatologists have such a long waiting list that they don&#8217;t even take down names.  The patients just call daily hoping there&#8217;s a cancellation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen nor heard of medical specialists saturation.  Or do you expect to see on Craigslist: Single White Radiologist, willing to put in long hours in the dark?</p>
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		<title>By: jon1979</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon1979</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated doctors will return to general practice – or begin new careers simonizing cars.

plewis on November 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What you will see -- what you are already seeing -- is in a seller&#039;s market states will compete against each other to offer doctors the best economic conditions. That doesn&#039;t just include the market itself, but also the state&#039;s malpractice laws and any financial aid offered by the state to help doctors pay off their student loans (Texas already does this, paying off part of the loan in exchange for a four-year contract to work in low-income urban or rural areas. Many leave after the contract is up, but those areas do have health care service, albeit inexperienced. But it&#039;s better than no physicians, which is what low-income and rural regions of states with weak malpractice suit protection laws and no financial compensatory deals are going to face in the near future).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated doctors will return to general practice – or begin new careers simonizing cars.</p>
<p>plewis on November 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>What you will see &#8212; what you are already seeing &#8212; is in a seller&#8217;s market states will compete against each other to offer doctors the best economic conditions. That doesn&#8217;t just include the market itself, but also the state&#8217;s malpractice laws and any financial aid offered by the state to help doctors pay off their student loans (Texas already does this, paying off part of the loan in exchange for a four-year contract to work in low-income urban or rural areas. Many leave after the contract is up, but those areas do have health care service, albeit inexperienced. But it&#8217;s better than no physicians, which is what low-income and rural regions of states with weak malpractice suit protection laws and no financial compensatory deals are going to face in the near future).</p>
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		<title>By: plewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>plewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated  doctors will return to general practice -  or begin  new careers simonizing cars.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no empty seats in medical school classes and waiting lists to get in. When specialties become saturated  doctors will return to general practice &#8211;  or begin  new careers simonizing cars.</p>
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		<title>By: talking_mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>talking_mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that should be stitches in my scalp not skull.  As a painkiller Oxycodone rock, but it does little for my ability to process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that should be stitches in my scalp not skull.  As a painkiller Oxycodone rock, but it does little for my ability to process.</p>
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		<title>By: talking_mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>talking_mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was in for outpatient surgery on Tuesday.  The doctor doing the surgery had an Obama hat in his room when I was in for the consult before the surgery.  While he was marking my head we talking a little, and he said he was so glad he was retiring soon because he didn&#039;t like where he saw medicine going.   I felt like saying something about his support for Obama and where HE saw medicine going but the doctor was going to be operating on my skull in the next few hours... and I don&#039;t trust democrats to put their passions away for professionalism.  

So, I am sitting here recovering with 12 stitches in my skull wondering if I should have said something - since this was after the election it would not have done any good.  Was I prudent or a coward, I really don&#039;t know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in for outpatient surgery on Tuesday.  The doctor doing the surgery had an Obama hat in his room when I was in for the consult before the surgery.  While he was marking my head we talking a little, and he said he was so glad he was retiring soon because he didn&#8217;t like where he saw medicine going.   I felt like saying something about his support for Obama and where HE saw medicine going but the doctor was going to be operating on my skull in the next few hours&#8230; and I don&#8217;t trust democrats to put their passions away for professionalism.  </p>
<p>So, I am sitting here recovering with 12 stitches in my skull wondering if I should have said something &#8211; since this was after the election it would not have done any good.  Was I prudent or a coward, I really don&#8217;t know?</p>
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		<title>By: Hill60</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hill60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My primary care physician retired just after ACA was passed.  He saw the writing on the wall.

He explained, that as a primary care physician, a lot more patients would have to go thru him, before they could receive specialized care - his concerns boiled down to two issues: Cut-rate reimbursement from the Government, and not being able to provide his standard of care to the overwhelming number of new patients that he&#039;d be seeing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My primary care physician retired just after ACA was passed.  He saw the writing on the wall.</p>
<p>He explained, that as a primary care physician, a lot more patients would have to go thru him, before they could receive specialized care &#8211; his concerns boiled down to two issues: Cut-rate reimbursement from the Government, and not being able to provide his standard of care to the overwhelming number of new patients that he&#8217;d be seeing.</p>
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		<title>By: forest</title>
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		<dc:creator>forest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you like your doctor, you can wait for your doctor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you like your doctor, you can wait for your doctor.</p>
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		<title>By: ShainS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShainS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the would-be doctors will now become lawyers, because God knows we don&#039;t have enough of those ...  especially in an Obama-deconstructed world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the would-be doctors will now become lawyers, because God knows we don&#8217;t have enough of those &#8230;  especially in an Obama-deconstructed world.</p>
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		<title>By: Blindsummit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blindsummit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to the reality we face here up in the socialist utopia of Ontario, with the wonderful government run health care system. Family doctors are in short supply. Huge swathes of the populace can&#039;t find one, and it&#039;s not getting any better.

Soon we won&#039;t even have the option of going to the U.S. to pay for care, thanks to Obamacare crashing the system.

Isn&#039;t equality wonderful! Everyone equally miserable and their health equally at risk.

Infantile socialists make me puke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the reality we face here up in the socialist utopia of Ontario, with the wonderful government run health care system. Family doctors are in short supply. Huge swathes of the populace can&#8217;t find one, and it&#8217;s not getting any better.</p>
<p>Soon we won&#8217;t even have the option of going to the U.S. to pay for care, thanks to Obamacare crashing the system.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t equality wonderful! Everyone equally miserable and their health equally at risk.</p>
<p>Infantile socialists make me puke.</p>
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		<title>By: portlandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>portlandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a Doctor in the house?

&lt;em&gt;crickets.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a Doctor in the house?</p>
<p><em>crickets.</em></p>
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		<title>By: kurtzz3</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurtzz3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*beep*  Thank you for calling Dr. ____&#039;s office. We are no longer in business.  If you are in labor and your contractions are closer than 5 minutes apart, call you congressional representative. Good day.*beep*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*beep*  Thank you for calling Dr. ____&#8217;s office. We are no longer in business.  If you are in labor and your contractions are closer than 5 minutes apart, call you congressional representative. Good day.*beep*</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I know a few Georgetown Med School grads, and no one they know is going into general practice. They all know the economics and they know what’s coming.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bet they all voted for OBozo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know a few Georgetown Med School grads, and no one they know is going into general practice. They all know the economics and they know what’s coming.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bet they all voted for OBozo.</p>
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		<title>By: letget</title>
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		<dc:creator>letget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can not blame doctors one bit for this shortage. With the cost they have in becoming a doctor, getting more cost of a specialty, having an enormous liability cost(the lawyers suing for everything they do), and now having to deal with big bro, it will be a wonder if anyone wants to become a doctor?

In fact, I don&#039;t know why anyone would want to become a nurse or nurse practitioners? Nurses have to have liability insurance also.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can not blame doctors one bit for this shortage. With the cost they have in becoming a doctor, getting more cost of a specialty, having an enormous liability cost(the lawyers suing for everything they do), and now having to deal with big bro, it will be a wonder if anyone wants to become a doctor?</p>
<p>In fact, I don&#8217;t know why anyone would want to become a nurse or nurse practitioners? Nurses have to have liability insurance also.<br />
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