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Florida restaurant owner to add an ObamaCare “surcharge”

posted at 5:59 pm on November 15, 2012 by

Just telling it like it is — I like his style. Per Politico:

John Metz, a restaurant franchisor who operates 48 locations of Hurricane Grill & Wings, several dozen Denny’s locations and a few Dairy Queens, told The Huffington Post Thursday that he’d join the growing list of restaurateurs piling purported Obamacare costs onto their customers and staff.

In his case, though, he’s going to label it so all of his customers know about it.

“If I leave the prices the same, but say on the menu that there is a 5 percent surcharge for Obamacare, customers have two choices. They can either pay it and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server, who is the primary beneficiary of Obamacare,” Metz told The Huffington Post. “Although it may sound terrible that I’m doing this, it’s the only alternative. I’ve got to pass the cost on to the consumer.”

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Boycott!!!eleventy!! /libtards

Norwegian on November 15, 2012 at 6:03 PM

All those part-time servers, half of them students, who live off of tips and wouldn’t be getting Obamacare anyway? Riiiight.

I think wing-nuts like this one didn’t hear people screaming “we’re not stupid” on Nov6.

lester on November 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I think it is a great idea to have another line item on checks, so people realize this isn’t free. Hopefully more folks will adopt this tactic

phillypolitics on November 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Um, yeah, bad idea. I rag on Obozo on hotair as much as the next guy, but never let politics affect your family relationships or your bottom line.

sauldalinsky on November 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM

I hope the lefties have an iPhone app to keep track of all the businesses they’re going to have to boycott. It’s going to be painful (and expensive) to only shop at businesses that only support Obamacare, gay marriage, abortion, unions and green energy.

ReaganWasRight on November 15, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Oh wah, wah, wah. These people have been making their profit lines by exploiting workers. Its time to quit robbing peter to pay paul (themselves) and start showing responsibility for their employees.

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

lester on November 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

^ has a scandalous man-crush on Moons Over My Hammy

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

when you say that – the opposite must be true!

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Do you run a business?

ReaganWasRight on November 15, 2012 at 6:25 PM

All those part-time servers, half of them students, who live off of tips and wouldn’t be getting Obamacare anyway? Riiiight.

lester on November 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Who did those students vote for?

sharrukin on November 15, 2012 at 6:26 PM

I wouldn’t get too worked up about the idea of the servers getting screwed here. The same pride that encourages people to tip 15-20%+ and never skimp there is going to keep people from deducting the Obamacare surchage from the tip.

As for the rest of it, I think this is a fine idea. Let every business do it, to make clear to everybody the multiple and varied effects of this gift that keeps on giving.

Gingotts on November 15, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Do you run a business?

ReaganWasRight on November 15, 2012 at 6:25 PM

He doesn’t. He’s a clueless professor.

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Do you run a business?

ReaganWasRight on November 15, 2012

libTardAndDie wouldn’t know the first thing about running a business, much less owning one. It thinks everything in the world runs on unicorn farts.

8thAirForce on November 15, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Oh man, I simply must link this to a FaceDURRRK frrrnd who was cryb!tching about Papa John’s just the other day…

Jeddite on November 15, 2012 at 6:35 PM

he can start by firing all of his employees that have Obama stickers on their car.. then maybe he won’t need to cut hours for the remaining patriots

gatorboy on November 15, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Obama wins, Denny’s customers get Grand Slammed

portlandon on November 15, 2012 at 6:41 PM

He doesn’t. He’s a clueless professor.

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Yeah. I know. It was more of a rhetorical question.

libfree probably thinks that every business owner is the Monty Burns type that is flush with money and whose biggest decision is to try and decide which color Porche to drive to work that day. He has no clue that a lot of them haven’t given themselves a raise in the last four years or that when times are tough that the owner is more likely to go without pay than his/her employees. Nope. It’s all about the labor. Never mind the fact that the owner may have tied up every penny and asset he has into giving those laborers a place to work. It’s a lot of risk for little reward.

ReaganWasRight on November 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM

elections have consequences. you want to raise the price of doing business, don’t act angry or surprised when there is less of it.

2012 democrats fall into 2 categories:

1. economic ignoramuses
2. corruptocrat cronies (see Chicago, white house)

tom daschle concerned on November 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Oh wah, wah, wah. These people have been making their profit lines by exploiting workers. Its time to quit robbing peter to pay paul (themselves) and start showing responsibility for their employees.

Before we go any further, please define “exploit.” I do not think it means what you think it means.

Mohonri on November 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM

He doesn’t. He’s a clueless professor.

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Explains so much about lester. Reminds me of the two biggest idiots I’ve ever met….professors of history at Cal State Northridge who knew a lot about history but had no common sense. They overestimated their intelligence and also confused it with knowledge.

Wonder who types his comments on here

irishinfidel on November 15, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Oh wah, wah, wah. These people have been making their profit lines by exploiting workers. Its time to quit robbing peter to pay paul (themselves) and start showing responsibility for their employees.

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Like all Marxists you are trapped in the 19th century. But the world has changed. Nowadays most business owners exploit themselves, not their employees.

Gelsomina on November 15, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I notice LibDie has no complaints about the surcharge on his phone bill that pays for all those obamaphones.

BeachBum on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

I wouldn’t get too worked up about the idea of the servers getting screwed here. The same pride that encourages people to tip 15-20%+ and never skimp there is going to keep people from deducting the Obamacare surchage from the tip.

As for the rest of it, I think this is a fine idea. Let every business do it, to make clear to everybody the multiple and varied effects of this gift that keeps on giving.

Gingotts on November 15, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I’ll go you one better. I think that health benefits should be taxed like regular income (which they are). Health care cost in the U.S are absurd and if people actually felt like they were paying for them, they’d be more amenable to attempts to curb costs.

urban elitist on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Yeah. I know. It was more of a rhetorical question.

libfree probably thinks that every business owner is the Monty Burns type that is flush with money and whose biggest decision is to try and decide which color Porche to drive to work that day. He has no clue that a lot of them haven’t given themselves a raise in the last four years or that when times are tough that the owner is more likely to go without pay than his/her employees. Nope. It’s all about the labor. Never mind the fact that the owner may have tied up every penny and asset he has into giving those laborers a place to work. It’s a lot of risk for little reward.

ReaganWasRight on November 15, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I see. :)

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Explains so much about lester. Reminds me of the two biggest idiots I’ve ever met….professors of history at Cal State Northridge who knew a lot about history but had no common sense. They overestimated their intelligence and also confused it with knowledge.

Wonder who types his comments on here

irishinfidel on November 15, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Lester’s a professor too? :)

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Florida restaurant owner to add an ObamaCare “surcharge”

Good for Metz. More like him, pls. It will remind people daily that there is no free lunch… and no free Obamacare.

I think it’s a great idea, especially where demand is relatively inelastic.

petefrt on November 15, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I’ll go you one better. I think that health benefits should be taxed like regular income (which they are). Health care cost in the U.S are absurd and if people actually felt like they were paying for them, they’d be more amenable to attempts to curb costs.

urban elitist on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

huh?

teejk on November 15, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Lester’s a professor too?

22044 on November 15, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Unfortunately not. Then again, non of your business.

lester on November 15, 2012 at 7:20 PM

I think the business should print the 5% “Obamacare surcharge” visibly on each receipt (if they can modify their system to do that).

E-R

electric-rascal on November 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Most restaurant owners are millionaires I hear.

DeathtotheSwiss on November 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Do you run a business?

ReaganWasRight

He’s a liberal….he runs EVERYONE’S business.

Its time to quit robbing peter to pay paul…

libbrainfree

A lib thinks it’s time to stop robbing, lol. How ironic.

xblade on November 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM

I’ll go you one better. I think that health benefits should be taxed like regular income (which they are). Health care cost in the U.S are absurd and if people actually felt like they were paying for them, they’d be more amenable to attempts to curb costs.

urban elitist on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

with the above post pointing out that perhaps you are stoned, let’s explore health care costs…Medicare gave the industry a “blank check” to spend tons on facilities and experimental medicine. and then we get a profession that monitors every move ready to take 40% of the take.

After a hearty meal and the check comes, Medicare determines that it forgot its wallet…

so the check gets spread around everybody else in the restaurant that has money in their wallet. People that came late find that they ordered a 6 shrimp dinner but only get 3 shrimp and the menu price doubled.

So let’s expand that concept to the rest of the population.

teejk on November 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

from seeing how hard most Americains have it in today’s economy I seriously doubt the owners will be able to pass on the cost to customers. Customers are tapped out they have nothing on which to pay. No I think the owners will either have to learn to lve on less profit or if they can’t they go out of business. wages just ar enot keeping up with the rate of inflation as it is. there is no way customers will be able to pay more. I see many people relearning the fine art of cooking at home.

unseen on November 15, 2012 at 7:33 PM

I think wing-nuts like this one didn’t hear people screaming “we’re not stupid” on Nov6.

lester

Kind of like when criminals caught in the act scream “I’m innocent”, lol.

xblade on November 15, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Oh wah, wah, wah. These people have been making their profit lines by exploiting workers. Its time to quit robbing peter to pay paul (themselves) and start showing responsibility for their employees.

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Wow. Who ties your shoes? Oh, that’s right, you’re a pencil pusher. You know they’re called “loafers” for a reason don’t you?

S. D. on November 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Call it a carbon offset fee that offsets the CO2 that was produced in the growing, transport and cooking of the food. They left would love it so much someone would want to make it nation wide and on all food.

tjexcite on November 15, 2012 at 8:17 PM

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

You should hire all the workers being laid off by other businesses, then, just to show them how it can be done.

malclave on November 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Um, yeah, bad idea. I rag on Obozo on hotair as much as the next guy, but never let politics affect your family relationships or your bottom line.

sauldalinsky on November 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Too late, Vichy. Politics always affects the bottom line whether or not you even realize it.

gryphon202 on November 15, 2012 at 9:17 PM

If almost all businesses are going to have to pass costs off to the consumers, won’t this start increasing costs of many things very quickly?

This is just the tip of the iceberg. When all these companies realize that the stuff they are purchasing to sell is going to go up in price, they’re going to have to readjust and raise their prices again.

Or am I way off here?

VinceOfDoom on November 15, 2012 at 9:22 PM

This is just the tip of the iceberg. When all these companies realize that the stuff they are purchasing to sell is going to go up in price, they’re going to have to readjust and raise their prices again.

Or am I way off here?

VinceOfDoom

nope there will be a multiplier effect. AF every level of research, discovery, excavation, construction, design, fabrication, transportation, retail, on and on the cost all gets paid by guess who?

us. its going to be really painful

tom daschle concerned on November 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

It’s interesting how people like libfree, lester, and sauldalinsky love to finger point and criticize the symptom of the problem while ignoring the cause.

Then again, their comments clearly give away that, while advocating from a “moral high ground”, they have no concept of morality or reality. Otherwise they would understand the concepts of profits (and profit margin) and private property.

ptcamn on November 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Must be really fun living in the conservative world of myth and legend, just making things up on the go…
 
lester on July 23, 2012 at 12:11 PM

All those part-time servers, half of them students…
 
lester on November 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

 

rogerb on November 15, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Alright, I don’t run a small business, but I’m involved somewhat with my families small business, and I sit in on enough of the decision sessions that I can give people some insights as to whats happening.

But first, as long as we’re talking about my families business, I’ve got to get the obligatory website plug out of the way.

Please visit, http://www.preparedpantry.com , for baking mixes, tools, syrups, jams, and various kitchen related gifts.

Yeah, sorry about the plug, I had to do that, it’s part of the Obamacare mandate!

Anyway, onto the actual content.

The sum of it, is that for the past year small businesses have been sitting in a bit of a holding pattern when it came to hiring decisions. We ourselves, have been very reluctant to hire anybody who was not absolutely necessary, due in large part to the coverage mandate for any small business with more than a certain number of employees. We actually have plenty of openings left until we hit that number, but the simple fact that we have a finite number of hires left before our costs rise dramatically, makes us very reluctant to hire people. We don’t like firing people if we can avoid it, so to hire people we have to be absolutely certain they’re going to work out.

Other small businesses we work with are facing the same problem. Those with only a handful of employees are clamping down on hires and training workers to be more productive, until they just cannot possibly keep up with the workload without another hire. Companies with more than a handful of workers, are now largely in the act of downsizing. Some are buying new equipment to make up for drop in manpower, but for the most part most small businesses that fall into this category seem to be trying to simply up productivity to get by.

Taxes of course, are a whole other monster. Suffice to say, most small business owners are now assuming that their taxes are going to go up. The expectation is that, not only will this drive their costs up, but its going to hurt sales and revenues as well. In fact I’ve heard multiple individuals state that they believe sales and revenues will likely drop back roughly to where they were three years ago.

For our business especially, this is staggering. We’ve managed to grow sales even during the economic collapse of 08. This should tell you just how dramatic we expect Obama’s economic policy to be now that it’s certain.

As for the liberals out there, the ones that think we’re just being greedy by cutting jobs, raising prices, and so on. The fact of the matter is that we cannot spend more money than we have, and things like health insurance is a cost, regardless of whether its mandated or not. The money to pay for this must come from somewhere, and we just don’t have many places we could take it from. We cannot quickly raise prices, because our products aren’t enough of a staple to sell even at high prices. In the past we’ve been able to gradually raise prices to pay for things like increased shipping prices, but even gradually this impacts sales, and it can take a long time for them to fully recover. Of course, whenever sales slow down, our ability to hire new employees goes down dramatically.

As for personal profit, we don’t really get much out of it. My father is the owner and primary manager, and despite his worth on paper his actual income sticks him somewhere in the middle class. On top of that, he regularly works sixty hours a week, volunteers eight to twenty hours of his time to the church every week, and loses tremendous amounts of sleep whenever the possibility of firing somebody rears its head.

In other words, he’s working his tail off now. He may eventually be rewarded for it, but if he does it’ll be years from now when his business is worth enough to actually be bought out.

All of you have probably heard this all before, in sanitized reports about the state of the economy. From the perspective on the ground though, it’s scary stuff. We’re all just trying to survive long enough for conditions to change, and last Tuesday we were informed that it’d be another two years at the soonest before we could expect any real reinforcements.

WolvenOne on November 15, 2012 at 10:42 PM

If almost all businesses are going to have to pass costs off to the consumers, won’t this start increasing costs of many things very quickly?

This is just the tip of the iceberg. When all these companies realize that the stuff they are purchasing to sell is going to go up in price, they’re going to have to readjust and raise their prices again.

Or am I way off here?

VinceOfDoom on November 15, 2012 at 9:22 PM

You are missing something.

Obamacare requires additional profits to cover. If it was as easy as raising prices to raise additional profits, businesses would already be doing it.

For many companies the choice is between cutting hours and going under. Companies can’t simply make more money to cover higher costs. They are already making the most amount they can.

jhffmn on November 16, 2012 at 1:45 AM

phillypolitics on November 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I would enjoy seeing manufacturers put a similar tag related to Obamacare/corporate tax on their products – call it the “Galt line item” or “Galt label”.

Since people seem to have so much trouble realizing that taxing a company only taxes the consumer, maybe try to be more explicit.

batter on November 16, 2012 at 2:18 AM

The economic ignorance of the left is breathtaking.

mredly on November 16, 2012 at 3:57 AM

Heh… typical liberals in here that have no clue how things work… no wonder why Obama got back in.

Lets take a steak.

First the farmer who has to pay for insurance now. This adds cost to the cow.

Then the company that picks it up to slaughter, these people also have workers.

Not only now does the farmer charge a bit more for the cow, but the company picking up the cow also has to adsorb their own cost that went up due to obamacare.

Also, lets not forget that power companies need to supply power and fuel to the farmer and the slaughter house and the shipper.

All the different branches alone from that, transport, workers,ect ect all will be adding cost because they have to pay “a little extra”.

I swear liberals are retarded. They can not see outside of the little world they each put themselves in. They have no dang concept how things are interconnected in society. They just think you can tax one area and not have a domino affect on down the chain. Now, they put it on EVERYONE… so the domino affect is going to happen to everyone.

That steak I was talking about when all said and done I bet goes up at least 25%. So many things involved….

watertown on November 16, 2012 at 5:50 AM

All those part-time servers, half of them students, who live off of tips and wouldn’t be getting Obamacare anyway? Riiiight.
I think wing-nuts like this one didn’t hear people screaming “we’re not stupid” on Nov6.
lester on November 15, 2012 at 6:09 PM

That’s bcs the government is forcing their parents’ health insurance companies to cover them until 26. You think this has no financial repercussions anywhere?

Oh wah, wah, wah. These people have been making their profit lines by exploiting workers. Its time to quit robbing peter to pay paul (themselves) and start showing responsibility for their employees.
libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

So the profits of a company go only to the workers? Do these profits belong to the workers? Is a business solely in business to reward workers?
This is communist thinking. You have only to look to the failed communist countries around the world to see what this mindset has wrought.
Meanwhile, communist China has woken up & is letting the good times roll for its citizens. Notice they are not that communist anymore. And their economy is booming.

I notice LibDie has no complaints about the surcharge on his phone bill that pays for all those obamaphones.
BeachBum on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

He’s probably just fine with paying higher taxes. That is, until it starts affecting his bottom line at home.
Or perhaps he wants to be part of the unwashed proletariat where everybody shares everything & owns nothing. Perhaps he would feel comfortable living in close military like quarters & eating meals in a canteen with his fellow workers.

I’ll go you one better. I think that health benefits should be taxed like regular income (which they are). Health care cost in the U.S are absurd and if people actually felt like they were paying for them, they’d be more amenable to attempts to curb costs.
urban elitist on November 15, 2012 at 6:55 PM

with the above post pointing out that perhaps you are stoned, let’s explore health care costs…Medicare gave the industry a “blank check” to spend tons on facilities and experimental medicine. and then we get a profession that monitors every move ready to take 40% of the take.
After a hearty meal and the check comes, Medicare determines that it forgot its wallet…
so the check gets spread around everybody else in the restaurant that has money in their wallet. People that came late find that they ordered a 6 shrimp dinner but only get 3 shrimp and the menu price doubled.
So let’s expand that concept to the rest of the population.
teejk on November 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Nice job teejk. But of course, health care is a right. And doctors have no right to profit from healing the sick.

Badger40 on November 16, 2012 at 8:37 AM

That steak I was talking about when all said and done I bet goes up at least 25%. So many things involved….

watertown on November 16, 2012 at 5:50 AM

Our main business is ranching. Cattle prices are record highs. But we are not really getting ahead bcs the cost of doing business have skyrocketed.
As with many in agriculture, we have been forced to hold jobs off the ranch. We bought a semi & hubby drives cattle hay & grain & I am a HS teacher.
Without those jobs, we would not be able to ranch.
And it isn’t bcs we run the ranch poorly. It’s just that bad for all of us unless you’re a farmer getting sweet crop payments from the federal govt programs.

Badger40 on November 16, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Oh wah, wah, wah. These people have been making their profit lines by exploiting workers. Its time to quit robbing peter to pay paul (themselves) and start showing responsibility for their employees.

libfreeordie on November 15, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Any worker that feels “exploited” is free to stop collecting pay cheques and quit.

Catoclysmos on November 16, 2012 at 8:53 AM

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