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Was Petraeus’s affair with Broadwell an open secret?

posted at 4:01 pm on November 12, 2012 by

Sure sounds that way.

A bigger shock came over Memorial Day weekend in 2010. Petraeus and his wife, Holly attended the Washington D.C. wedding of counterinsurgents David Kilcullen and Janine Davidson. So did Broadwell and her husband, Scott. Yet “Paula was on the arm of Petraeus throughout the whole reception,” says one attendee. “They were in each others’ personal space, with her husband and his wife right there.”

In July of that year, Petraeus assumed command of the war effort in Afghanistan. Broadwell arrived in Kabul shortly thereafter.

That wasn’t the only case of Broadwell joining Petraeus on his missions abroad:

Sources who long feared him have already begun to leak salacious details; one told me this weekend that he took Broadwell along with him on a government-funded trip to Paris in July 2011.

Wasn’t hard to put the pieces together:

Broadwell’s affair with Petraeus was likely known to Holly Petraeus, according to family friends. The FBI reportedly knew about it months beforehand and White House Counterterrorism adviser John Brennan reportedly was aware that there was a relationship as early as the summer of 2011.

If all of that’s true, how did Clapper and Obama have zero idea of all of this until last week? The president and DNI might want to know if their director of intelligence is potentially compromised, no?

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Well, apparently everyone knew but Obama. That happens a lot with these scandals.

Doughboy on November 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM

as early as the summer of 2011.

DP became DCIA in September 2011.

If K.T. McFarland is correct, DP would have undergone an FBI investigation and taken a polygraph (CIA) prior to his confirmation hearings. All of the information from this vetting would have gone to the WH office of personnel.

How did all of this pass? It appears now that the affair was indeed an open secret, so why did the WH approve DP for the post? Someone, or many people, knew about this, yet they let it go ahead.

Cody1991 on November 12, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Who cares? No one. That’s who.

Rational Thought on November 12, 2012 at 4:17 PM

So if it’s an open secret, who really cares? Given her background and her reserve status she’s probably already got a clearance, right?

Is it documented anywhere what FDR and/or Gen Marshall did when they found out Ike was screwing his British driver? Send Ike a bottle of champagne and a gross of rubbers? Breathe a sigh of relief that he’s not gonna be sidelined with the clap from some random hooker?

My guess is the reason Broadwell broke it off after Petraeus’ DCI appointment was that she had a visit from someone from Langley who discussed just how closely she wanted to be scrutinized.

JEM on November 12, 2012 at 4:20 PM

I know I shouldn’t say this, but I hope his wide divorces him.

mrscullen on November 12, 2012 at 4:21 PM

I know I shouldn’t say this, but I hope his wide wife divorces him.
mrscullen on November 12, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Stupid autocorrect

mrscullen on November 12, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Given what we know it’s inconceivable the CIA didn’t know about this when he got the appointment, it wouldn’t be entirely out of line to expect clueless Clapper wouldn’t know, but I’d have thought someone would have told him.

I think it smells awfully fishy that’d it’d be grounds for a resignation NOW.

JEM on November 12, 2012 at 4:32 PM

How did all of this pass? It appears now that the affair was indeed an open secret, so why did the WH approve DP for the post? Someone, or many people, knew about this, yet they let it go ahead.

Cody1991 on November 12, 2012 at 4:13 PM

If we were to disqualify people in power (mostly men) because they have affairs, government will cease to exist. This is a sensitive position but she was (mistakenly) considered to be a known element and she already was a member of intelligence community for many years.

lester on November 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

What exactly does

Sources who long feared him

mean?

John_Locke on November 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Next thing we’ll find out was that his whole counterinsurgency effort in Iraq was really her pillow-talk…

JEM on November 12, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Well, apparently everyone knew but Obama. That happens a lot with these scandals.

Doughboy on November 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM

When does somebody put together the inevitable Sgt. Schultzbama photoshop?

BuckeyeSam on November 12, 2012 at 4:37 PM

“Why am I always on the sixth fairway when these things happen?”

- Barack Obama on everything

JEM on November 12, 2012 at 4:38 PM

What exactly does

Sources who long feared him

mean?

John_Locke on November 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Errr… Taliban? Maybe Iraqi insurgency?

lester on November 12, 2012 at 4:41 PM

If we were to disqualify people in power (mostly men) because they have affairs, government will cease to exist.
lester on November 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Hmm, second look at recriminalizing adultery?

rbj on November 12, 2012 at 4:41 PM

“They were in each others’ personal space, with her husband and his wife right there.”

Classy…if each others’ spouse knew of it and did nothing then what the hell is wrong with them? I mean I know some people will say they had kids or whatever, but please, have some respect for yourself.

nextgen_repub on November 12, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Even though I’d bet my last dollar that Obama knew about the affair right about the same time Petreaus did, he does have the excuse of being a true narcissist, and if it doesn’t personally affect them, it’s not really part of their agenda. (Until of course, it reflects badly on them, and then they must be “bussed”)

BettyRuth on November 12, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Classy…if each others’ spouse knew of it and did nothing then what the hell is wrong with them? I mean I know some people will say they had kids or whatever, but please, have some respect for yourself.

nextgen_repub on November 12, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Seriously! the arrogance of that kind of behavior with spouses nearby, speaks volumes about this guys ultimate character. I don’t want to hear anymore about what a great man he is.

BettyRuth on November 12, 2012 at 4:47 PM

How did all of this pass? It appears now that the affair was indeed an open secret, so why did the WH approve DP for the post? Someone, or many people, knew about this, yet they let it go ahead.

Cody1991 on November 12, 2012 at 4:13 PM

They let it go ahead because they didn’t think Broadwell was a security risk? King Obama and his henchmen all knew about the affair, didn’t think it was a big enough deal to interfere with his abilities to do his job.

Petraeus was going to testify before Congress about Benghazi, the King decides that might not be good idea and threatens to go public with the affair and Petraeus beat him to the punch by resigning and going public with it himself.

Now we wait to see if Petraeus does the right thing and tells the truth. I’m betting Holly Petraeus has known about the affair for a long time and this resignation and going public might have been a decision made by both of them.

JPeterman on November 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Well, apparently everyone knew but Obama. That happens a lot with these scandals.

Doughboy on November 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Plausible deniability…

nextgen_repub on November 12, 2012 at 4:58 PM

I’m going with Ace’s postulate that Obama could not not have known. The Secret Service hookers incident basically revealed that there’s a whole lot of unspoken but generally acceptable sordidness among federal employees.

theperfecteconomist on November 12, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Plausible deniability…

nextgen_repub on November 12, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Plausible deniability is easy when your head is that far up your a$$.

John_Locke on November 12, 2012 at 5:03 PM

If all of that’s true, how did Clapper and Obama have zero idea of all of this until last week? The president and DNI might want to know if their director of intelligence is potentially compromised, no?

They did know and decided to use it to control their D/CIA. The Chicago Way.

TXUS on November 12, 2012 at 5:10 PM

They let it go ahead because they didn’t think Broadwell was a security risk? King Obama and his henchmen all knew about the affair, didn’t think it was a big enough deal to interfere with his abilities to do his job.

Now we wait to see if Petraeus does the right thing and tells the truth. I’m betting Holly Petraeus has known about the affair for a long time and this resignation and going public might have been a decision made by both of them.

JPeterman on November 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Of course they knew prior to his confirmation. They were either naive about the potential consequences – or the administration viewed it as a good thing, i.e. “insurance” in case something went wrong. This is Chicago, after all.

I agree with you that Mrs. Petraeus knew. Wives usually do, and the three of them often appeared together at functions. I also agree that this was probably a decision they made together. It’s also possible that they made the decision with Broadwell. Something is very odd about all of it.

Won’t get my hopes up, but I think there’s a good chance that DP will blow the lid off of this Benghazi situation.

Cody1991 on November 12, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Well, apparently everyone knew but Obama. That happens a lot with these scandals. BO.

Doughboy on November 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM

FIFY ;)

Cody1991 on November 12, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Frankly, this affair which everyone seems to know about and the fact that Petreaus’ wife had a sweet cronyism job at Obama’s new Bureau of Consumer protection,points to one obvious fact here. Petraeus is a Democrat. Why anyone who remotely knew him thought he should ever be the Republican nominee for president I have no clue.

Rocks on November 12, 2012 at 6:51 PM

I don’t think Obama knew. Plausible deniability and all that. Just like I didn’t think Reagan knew what Ollie North was doing down in the White House basement with Iran/Contra either.

Since the FBI found no criminal wrong-doing and no breach of security, why would Obama need to know anyway? It raises an interesting thought, though, I wonder who else the FBI is investigating and nobody knows it’s happening.

Bennett on November 12, 2012 at 7:38 PM

From Fast and Furious to Hot and Heavy within one week of the election.

Obama runs scandals like racetracks run horses.

And we have a Media of gelded Yahoos.

profitsbeard on November 12, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Maybe Gen P’s wife was cool with it and condoned it because broadwell could give him sexual satisfaction which she cannot or smth . I mean a man gotta do what a man gotta do. I mean think about it , your busting your ass commanding a war and running the CIA -doing the dirty w a young woman is more preferable than with an old 60 year old woman.

aebloo on November 12, 2012 at 9:09 PM

They knew. They knew when he became DCI.

Open secrets are fun. Giffords’s support of NASA’s Constellation Program was apparently in trade for her husband’s flight assignment as commander of the next to last Shuttle mission. At NASA Houston, this was accepted fact.

321mdl on November 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM

This is something only people who have been married for many years understand. When a marriage lasts for 25, 30, 35+ years it is usually very solid and it is not based on sex. Mature people have very different perspectives than those who are younger and less mature.

Now it is true that in some long term marriages an affair will mean the end of the marriage. But in others the primary concern of the spouse not involved in the affair is whether the affair is a threat to the marriage. If it is not (the other person is “safe”, drug and disease free, not going to try and take the involved spouse away) then the spouse not involved may not have a problem with it. In fact if the affair involves a mutual friend that may even be preferred.

One reason is that sometimes older women have a very diminished libedo, and may only want sex every couple of weeks or once a month or so. Menopause also is a factor. If the man still has a high sex drive then it is actually a relief to the wife if he “gets relief” with a trusted mutual friend.

The above may seem strange to those of you younger than 50+ who haven’t been married for 25+ years but it is true.

SunSword on November 13, 2012 at 10:09 AM

I’m sure the fantasy of an approving wife is an old geezer’s wet dream.

Blake on November 13, 2012 at 10:26 AM

They knew. They knew when he became DCI.

Open secrets are fun.

321mdl on November 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Open secrets are very useful when intimidating people to come around to your way of thinking… It’s part of the Chicago Way.

The above may seem strange to those of you younger than 50+ who haven’t been married for 25+ years but it is true.

SunSword on November 13, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Not where I come from… Over 50 and over 30 years of marriage. An affair can be overcome if both parties want to stay in the marriage but an “ongoing” affair would rot the soul.

Fallon on November 13, 2012 at 10:32 AM

From my website: I write books. I can’t keep up with this! My imagination isn’t that good.

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2012/11/13/okay-i-give-up-i-have-a-great-imagination-but-i-cant-compete-with-this/

Now we hear the same FBI agent, worried that the Obama administration is covering this up, contacts the House Republicans and eventually end up talking to Eric Cantor who promptly does nothing with the information.

Further, and I’m telling you at this point I’m hanging up my imagination hat here, we are being told to believe all of this was held back from Clapper, Holder and Obama before the election by the FBI!! Of course they did. I’m sure a field supervisor and his agents decided to look into the personal emails of the HEAD OF THE CIA without clearing it with anyone. These are the same guys who have to take four days to plan a one day surveillance of a target and get approval for the operation all the way up to D.C. every time they do it! And the CIA director investigation was held close to the vest? Hell no. No way. How stupid do they think we are…oh, wait a minute…they may have something here.

So now we have this summary. Petraeus and Broadwell have an affair. He talks to her. The Benghazi attack occur. People are killed. We are run out of Benghazi. Obama didn’t do anything when he could, and now we may know why. CIA had prisoners against the executive order. CIA denies it, FOX has three sources confirming they did have detainees and dropped them off with the Libyans on the way out of town. It is a coverup. Petraeus went along with it. Broadwell spilled the beans. The FBI got involved and is now stuck. The FBI agent is under IA investigation because he sent shirtless photos to Kelly and ratted out the covert investigation to the Republicans. The Republicans didn’t know what to do with the information and sat on it. Petraeus is under investigation. Allen is under investigation because he sent thousands of emails to Kelly- who is from Lebanon. Kelly’s twin sister is an attorney that defends whistle-blowers. Broadwell is under investigation. Nobody told Congress. And they claim that nobody informed Holder, Clapper or Obama- so they are the only innocent people in this mess.

And some producer of a YOUTUBE video is the only one in jail. Conveniently…

Sorry, calling bullshit and throwing the yellow flag.

What we know is the CIA was holding prisoners and supplying guns to the Syrian rebels with State’s approval and assistance.

They were abandoned during the attack because of these secrets and Obama’s normalization policies limiting security.

That is the scandal. The rest is an attempt to bury it.

archer52 on November 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM