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Romney won young white voters

posted at 12:01 pm on November 9, 2012 by

AP’s already picked through the gruesome national exit polling from Tuesday.  I’d like to highlight one additional piece of data that is especially interesting: According to CNN’s figures, Mitt Romney actually won white Millenials (18-29 year olds) by seven points, 51-44, despite losing the broader demographic by 23 points.  (McCain lost young voters by 35 points in 2008).  Virtually all of Romney’s gains within this age bracket came from young whites.  He got absolutely demolished by young people of color; losing young Hispanics by 51 points, and young blacks by 83 points.  The specific age breakdown of Asian voters isn’t available, but Asians broke 3-to-1 for Obama overall, so an approximate extrapolation isn’t particularly difficult.  The demographic implications of Tuesday’s results are becoming increasingly obvious: Republicans simply cannot win elections without dramatically improving their standing and image among non-whites.  If they don’t, they’ll quite literally lose the future.

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The demographic implications of Tuesday’s results are becoming increasingly obvious: Republicans simply cannot win elections without dramatically improving their standing and image among non-whites. If they don’t, they’ll quite literally lose the future.

Why is that? Hasn’t it been documented that several million white voters sat this election out? If they hadn’t, Romney cleans up with them and likely makes up the margin he lost by(at least in the popular vote).

Doughboy on November 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Although they are young, they should still pull their head out of their …… and know better. I put the blame on their parents for not cluing them in during an election that was so pivotal.

michaelthomas on November 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Hey white America,

How about spending a little less time on your careers and more time building large families. PS Thanks Mormons.

sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Republicans simply cannot win elections without dramatically improving their standing and image among non-whites. If they don’t, they’ll quite literally lose the future.

This is a Catch-22. If Republicans become Democrats in order to have a shot at power, they have no raison d’être.

I’ll take ‘we’re screwed’ for $500, Alex.

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

How much of this is due to Barack Obama’s presence on the ticket? If they run some old white fuddy duddy, do we see numbers like that?

And I still say the perception of the GOP is driven mainly by the msm. They took great pains to not show black or hispanic speakers during the convention, and they malign and discredit minority Republicans.

changer1701 on November 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Why is that? Hasn’t it been documented that several million white voters sat this election out? If they hadn’t, Romney cleans up with them and likely makes up the margin he lost by(at least in the popular vote).

Doughboy on November 9, 2012 at 12:03 PM

That may be true but going forward the white demographic is going to shrink while becoming progressively more liberal (I assume).

Either way, solid support from one race or the other shouldn’t be our goal, our goal needs to be communicating our ideas to everyone, we don’t need to pander to blacks, hispanics, or asians, if they like markets and individual responsibility then we win, if not, everyone loses.

Right now conservatives are, by default, racist, sexist, greedy bastards. If we don’t start combating that with a message of “here is what markets and personal responsibility will do for everyone”, then we are screwed. I suspect that due to the huge educator gap we have (academia is overwhelmingly liberal) that we are permanently out of luck. We need to be pushing to get a foot in the door in academia, more conservatives need to be teaching in order to reset the default ‘conservatives bad, liberals good’ being taught regularly in schools.

John_Locke on November 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Conservatism is for everybody. We oftentimes get caught up worrying about what Democrats are doing for this group or that group.

“Outreach” doesn’t mean becoming liberal. It means paying attention to non-white groups and solving problems facing their communities through conservative policy (IE vouchers for education problems, etc.)

cpaulus on November 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

How about the republicans forget blacks and mexican hispanics and pander to whites, asians and cuban hispanics. The Dems play identity politics, we should to. The dems scare blacks into voting for them, republicans should scare asians and whites into voting for them. Its base and ugly but all is fair in war and this is war. Put and nice smile on your face, talk with a folksy midwestern accent, and stick a knife in your opponents kidneys.

sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

How about the republicans forget blacks and mexican hispanics and pander to whites, asians and cuban hispanics. The Dems play identity politics, we should to. The dems scare blacks into voting for them, republicans should scare asians and whites into voting for them. Its base and ugly but all is fair in war and this is war. Put and nice smile on your face, talk with a folksy midwestern accent, and stick a knife in your opponents kidneys.

sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

No thanks. I’d look lousy in a brownshirt. Leave the racial goose-stepping to the Dems.

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

In a race with a GOP contender who was moderate, not conservative, DEMs had to import the vote to beat the majority, and in the majority the vote was split.

If anyone is going to argue demographics, they should consider non minority, i.e. whites, have a demographic skewed towards conservatives simply because conservatives are more likely to be religious, to be anti abortion, and to not believe the human race should be curtailed

The breeding game is on the side of conservatives, muslims, and some hispanics. Muslims are outperforming, but have a long way to pass non muslim whites, and that assumes peace, stability, and an end to the world wide islamic attempt to blow up the USA.

Somewhere in the demographics, the muslim population curve will probably intersect the jihad in America curve and there will be an adjustment

It is difficult to downplay a demographic that entails 70 percent of a population, and that number comes from a census which includes X number of illegals as citizens

Personally, I add marijuana to the metric. The pot smoking or pot seeking populations tend to lose track of their long term needs, much less their car keys

entagor on November 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Hey white America,

How about spending a little less time on your careers and more time building large families. PS Thanks Mormons.

sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

You hit the nail on the head. Whites aren’t having kids anymore. The rate of marriage for the young has plummeted. From hookups to lack of jobs, geny don’t care about marriage as much. Even amongst college educated whites, marriage is going down. A whole new cultural era.

IR-MN on November 9, 2012 at 12:25 PM

First the media slimed us as sexist and racist and we don’t counter it.

The media is the root of our problem.

Second we need comercials showing how democrats reduce women to being Dancing Vaginas.

Then we have to show how badly minorities suffer under democrats and demonstrate how Democrats are just fine with that.

Democrats see color of skin, republicans see humans.

GardenGnome on November 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM

He got absolutely demolished by young people of color; losing young Hispanics by 51 points, and young blacks by 83 points.

I prefer to look at the silver lining here. Both young hispanics and blacks looked upon Romney much more favorably than their elders. That means they are more open to the Republican message, at least insofar as economic/pocketbook issues.

THIS is something to upon which to build.

Greyledge Gal on November 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Hey white conservative America,
How about spending a little less time on your careers and more time building large families. PS Thanks Mormons.
sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

This is already happening. However I encourage the Mormon ideal. It worked for Mormons. It can work for you.

If 40 percent of a population, goes from replacement birthrate, to replacement plus 1 there is a huge shift. Replacement plus 2 (closer to the muslim rate) causes an astonishing shift against the replacement-only populations

Anyone starting a family now should consider going to four children. The reason: if the DEMs persist, folk will need multiple children to protect and preserve them in old age. I would not worry about the cost. The gov will subsidize the basics, and old fashioned wealth building is counterproductive if the government is redistributive, The new wealth will be in children. Always was

entagor on November 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

No thanks. I’d look lousy in a brownshirt. Leave the racial goose-stepping to the Dems.

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Hyperbolic much? As far as I know, brownshirts hated hispanics and asians.

sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Hyperbolic much? As far as I know, brownshirts hated hispanics and asians.

sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Miss the point much?

Oh never mind.

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Miss the point much?

Oh never mind.

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Likewise.

sheikh of thornton on November 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

This isn’t surprising.

There were even minority students at my college admitting Romney was probably better for the economy, but they still voted Obama because “he cares.” Go figure.

Aizen on November 9, 2012 at 12:51 PM

I prefer to look at the silver lining here. Both young hispanics and blacks looked upon Romney much more favorably than their elders. That means they are more open to the Republican message, at least insofar as economic/pocketbook issues.

THIS is something to upon which to build.

Greyledge Gal on November 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM

I like this line of thought much better than sheikh of thorntons. The problem is that it depends on young hispanics and blacks being successful. During the next four years, those prospects will become increasingly rare. Circumstances will pull them back down into the Dem base.

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Virtually all of Romney’s gains within this age bracket came from young whites. He got absolutely demolished by young people of color…. The demographic implications of Tuesday’s results are becoming increasingly obvious: Republicans simply cannot win elections without dramatically improving their standing and image among non-whites. If they don’t, they’ll quite literally lose the future.

It would also be helpful if Romney made even a cursory attempt to reach out to those young white voters. Up here in Ohio, Obama had an extensive network set up with College Democrats and had shuttle vans running continuously on election day to transport the college kids to and from their polling places. Romney had nothing.

Outlander on November 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I have more kids than every Mormon that I know. Also, they’re all to the left of me. Friggin’ pinkos.

besser tot als rot on November 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

It would also be helpful if Romney made even a cursory attempt to reach out to those young white voters. Up here in Ohio, Obama had an extensive network set up with College Democrats and had shuttle vans running continuously on election day to transport the college kids to and from their polling places. Romney had nothing.

Outlander on November 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Republicans need to make it socially acceptable to support their candidate again. To the “cool class,” it is okay to support Ron Paul, but not Mitt Romney. The GOP needs to fix that PR problem.

besser tot als rot on November 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

besser tot als rot on November 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Go libertarian on some drugs.

El_Terrible on November 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Republicans simply cannot win elections without dramatically improving their standing and image among non-whites. If they don’t, they’ll quite literally lose the future.

But how? Non-whites have a fundamentally different view of social justice. Non-whites are much more class-conscious: we know that schools and medical care in poor neighborhoods are much worse than in wealthy ones, and we aren’t going to accept the conservative view that the disparity is entirely irrelevant.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Let Phillip Morris sale mj like cigarettes. Then we’ll have the dumb vote and Democrats will be against Big Tobacco and Big Marijuana.

El_Terrible on November 9, 2012 at 1:06 PM

That means they are more open to the Republican message, at least insofar as economic/pocketbook issues.

THIS is something to upon which to build.

Greyledge Gal on November 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM

While that’s true, we will never accept the idea that being poor means you deserve a poor school, or poor medical care. So long as the GOP view of government dictates that nothing can be done to help the poor, non-whites will never embrace the GOP.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

We don’t need them. Push some of the more popular Ron Paul ideas (end the failed ‘War on Drugs,’ take a hands-off approach on social issues that don’t hurt anybody like gay marriage, go all-in on cutting useless programs and departments) and we can win white Millenials 60-40 easily. If we do that, the 5% who voted Gary Johnson or Jill Stein will swing to us, and next election it’s not going to be the ostensibly “hip” black dude against the “old white rich dude,” which will leech some of the white Millenial vote from the Democrat side.

Good Solid B-Plus on November 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

So long as the GOP view of government dictates that nothing can be done to help the poor, non-whites will never embrace the GOP.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

That sums it up. Liberals want to ‘help’ the poor while keeping them in their place. Conservatives want to make it possible for them to not be poor. /shrug

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Gee, that’s swell.

RedNewEnglander on November 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

The divide has absolutely nothing to do with race,other than the fact that an overwhelming majority of Obama’s support comes from people-white,black or Hispanic,young or old,who believe the government should take care of them from birth to the grave,and that people who work for a living should pay for it.If the GOP is to win any national election in the future it must pucker up and out give-away the Democrats.As for this Republican-screw that and may the South secede again!

redware on November 9, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Proud to have part of the 51%, as futile as that was…

Mr. Prodigy on November 9, 2012 at 1:40 PM

entagor on November 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

I’m not having any children. Not when they risk being subject to nothing but Socialist/Communist tenants anytime I’m not involved. It ain’t worth it.

Let this worthless country decay under a collapsing population of Obamaphone drones and their spawn. And watch whilst I don’t and won’t care.

Mike Judge had it dead-on right – this IS Idiocracy.

Myron Falwell on November 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

While that’s true, we will never accept the idea that being poor means you deserve a poor school, or poor medical care. So long as the GOP view of government dictates that nothing can be done to help the poor, non-whites will never embrace the GOP.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

How come Illinois and California and Detroit, hell any city aren’t all utopias?

My city has been democrat for 70 years and it is a hell hole.

You reprobates blame republicans, yet you are the destroyers. Everything a democrat touches is destroyed. The most dangerous place to be in America is in a democrat victim group. Democrats do not care about helping a damn person.

It is all a charade, a lie, with millions of victims.

You people are sick.

tom daschle concerned on November 9, 2012 at 1:43 PM

We don’t need them. Push some of the more popular Ron Paul ideas (end the failed ‘War on Drugs,’ take a hands-off approach on social issues that don’t hurt anybody like gay marriage, go all-in on cutting useless programs and departments) and we can win white Millenials 60-40 easily. If we do that, the 5% who voted Gary Johnson or Jill Stein will swing to us, and next election it’s not going to be the ostensibly “hip” black dude against the “old white rich dude,” which will leech some of the white Millenial vote from the Democrat side.

Good Solid B-Plus on November 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

I think that’s where this is going. There’s been chatter about contesting states like Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and maybe Pennsylvania going forward and increasing the share of down-scale white voters. Immigration will have to be reworked also to strike the right balance.

Punchenko on November 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

ElectricPhase on November 9, 2012 at 1:22 PM

It’s already possible for them not to be poor. My family started out in this country quite poor, and in the face of taxes higher than they are today they managed to be upwardly mobile. The fact of the matter remains that you aren’t going to convince a population that believes one’s access to education and health care shouldn’t be determined by their wealth that what they really need is to get theirs and stop caring whether or not the poor have access to a quality education, or quality health care.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

You people are sick.

tom daschle concerned on November 9, 2012 at 1:43 PM

I’d say the one’s comfortable with wealth determining health care or education are sick.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM

I’d say the one’s comfortable with wealth determining health care or education are sick.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM

I agree. The Socialists behind the impending death panels and the NEA are sick, sick people, indeed.

Myron Falwell on November 9, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Let this worthless country decay under a collapsing population of Obamaphone drones and their spawn. And watch whilst I don’t and won’t care.

Mike Judge had it dead-on right – this IS Idiocracy.

Myron Falwell on November 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Since you’ve already given up, can we kindly ask you to leave? You’ll only get in the way of people trying to create a society where your lot in life isn’t determined by how many dollars you’ve accumulated.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM

I’d say the one’s comfortable with wealth determining health care or education are sick.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Then why do your beloved democrats work every day of every week of every year to drive the cost of both thru the roof?

You are incredibly stupid.

tom daschle concerned on November 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Remember when democrats gathered for a political rally/memorial for 6 killed in Tuscon?

I still have my Together We Thrive™ t-shirt.

tom daschle concerned on November 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Since you’ve already given up exposed me as an anti-American, can we kindly ask you to leave? You’ll only get in the way of people trying to create a society where your lot in life isn’t determined by how many dollars you’ve accumulated. freely destroy this country by which it was founded by creating a nation of moochers arrested to the Federal Government while actively persecuting those who ARE successful.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM

FIFY.

And hell no, I won’t go. I will only work to destroy all of you, those who hate liberty and personal freedom.

Go to hell. It’s called Chicago.

Myron Falwell on November 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM

tom daschle concerned on November 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Because you keep resisting single payer health care and tuition-free education.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM

While that’s true, we will never accept the idea that being poor means you deserve a poor school, or poor medical care. So long as the GOP view of government dictates that nothing can be done to help the poor, non-whites will never embrace the GOP.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Wow, I’m 50 and have been a Republican literally since I was born (my Mom had me out campaigning at 4 months). I’ve never accepted the idea that poor people deserve poor schools or medical care. I don’t think the average Republican does.

But I just don’t see how the big Federal systems have really helped. Maybe they did for a time but now they are so caught up in bureaucracy and regulations that teachers aren’t allowed to teach and doctors aren’t allowed to treat.

My Dad grew up very poor. My Mom’s family had a little more but she was next to the last in a family of 9 and her Dad died when she was 5. For the first 10 years of their lives, they both went to one-room schoolhouses and then on to bigger public schools. My Dad was “skipped” through 3 grades in the first 7 because, in those days, you received one-on-one attention. My Dad’s public high in a small town taught Latin.

My point here is that education is not about big beautiful schools — it’s about dedicated teachers who have a true calling to reach young people. My Dad was a handful. He ran book, hooked school, and organized crap games at 13. But teachers cared about him and tried to keep him occupied with books and lessons.

Long story shorter – after serving in WWII, my Dad came back to the Pentagon for a few years, then had TB for a year, and decided to go to college while he had to be on inactive duty recovering. He earned a college degree from U of MD in 2 years, then went to Washington College of Law (American U in DC). He opened a successful law practice and then became a Circuit Ct Judge in Maryland for 16 years.

All that from a public school education administered by a local county schoolboard.

Greyledge Gal on November 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM

tom daschle concerned on November 9, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Because you keep resisting single payer health care and tuition-free education.

ernesto on November 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Because it’s communist thinking. Anti-capitalist, anti-freedom, anti-American.

Myron Falwell on November 9, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Exactly… Romney won every faction of the White Vote…

mnjg on November 9, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Republicans simply cannot win elections without dramatically improving their standing and image among non-whites. If they don’t, they’ll quite literally lose the future.

Focus on Hispanics and Asians and forget about Blacks… Focus in particular on non-Mexican Hispanics…

mnjg on November 9, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Very good info by Guy Benson..:)

Dire Straits on November 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Why would so many Asians like Obama? That’s a little surprising to me.

Smoothies on November 9, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I find it mind-boggling that the very people that have suffered the most by oppressive communist/Marxist governments immigrate here and vote for more communist/Marxist rule…Jews, Asians, Hispanics. Absolutely stunning…

Strike Hornet on November 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM

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