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No, Ryan didn’t hurt Romney in Florida

posted at 1:16 pm on November 9, 2012 by

Aside from retaining the House, this is probably the best news to come out of election day. Entitlement reform is coming, one way or another. And judging by the exit polls among seniors, it’s not nearly as politically radioactive as the left would have you believe:

Exit polling in 2008 indicated that John McCain and running mate Sarah Palin won by a margin of 8 percentage points among Florida seniors (53 to 45 percent). Exit polling in 2012 indicates that Romney-Ryan more than doubled that margin — to 17 points (58 to 41 percent).

Romney’s other biggest gains in the Sunshine State, in relation to McCain, were among Floridians between the ages of 45 and 64 — the younger half of whom would have been among the first wave of Americans to experience the Romney-Ryan Medicare reforms firsthand. McCain lost among that group of voters by 5 points (52 to 47 percent); Romney won by 4 points (52 to 48 percent).

What’s more, when asked in exit polling who would do a better job of handling Medicare, Florida voters gave President Obama the edge over Romney by a meager 4 points — 50 to 46 percent — an enviable result for any Republican candidate. (That question wasn’t asked in 2008 exit polling.)

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Much of this is because Ryan went to Florida and talked to the voters there like grownups, and was coherent, knowledgeable and persuasive when talking about conservative ideas. I think Ryan ought to be the 2016 frontrunner, and if not, there’s a senate seat in Wisconsin with his name on it.

alwaysfiredup on November 9, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Yippee! More polls!!! /sarc

KS Rex on November 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM

or maybe ryan did cost romney florida…..

chasdal on November 9, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Maybe not, but not closing Wisconsin? Come on, after the debacle with the Governor?
They should have taken Wisconsin, no question…

right2bright on November 9, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Yes, even seniors want Stuff too.

AP- look into the numbers – I think there are about 3 million deaths in the US each year- mostly seniors (I would think) multiplied over 4 years…. I think somebody may be losing those votes – though replaced by NEW seniors- is it possible lower vote totals can be attributed to seniors who have passed on, and their R vote total being halved or switched by those younger seniors who replace them?

I would think this counts as a real changing demographic as the greatest generation embraces their final resting place.

FlaMurph on November 9, 2012 at 3:59 PM

chasdal on November 9, 2012 at 2:19 PM

And no, as minorities, no different than African Americans, they look to Government as a solution… not the gringo. This trend will only increase more and more as we march toward our socialist future.

Belong to your Government.

FlaMurph on November 9, 2012 at 4:04 PM

They should have taken Wisconsin, no question…

right2bright on November 9, 2012 at 2:32 PM

They were never going to take Wisconsin. You might as well ask why Romney didn’t take Massachusetts.

alwaysfiredup on November 9, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Judging by the amount of facetime Ryan got, who knew he was even on the ticket?

lorien1973 on November 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

He didn’t help either, not in Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Nevada or Florida.

Falz on November 9, 2012 at 4:35 PM

The Government/Union/Democrat Machine counts votes all day and brings busloads of voters to get in line, until they have enough to win. They know that if they bring Registered Voters who are not Likely voters on the bus, they will have enough.

Fleuries on November 9, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Romney hurt Romney in Florida.

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