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The national exit poll

posted at 9:30 am on November 7, 2012 by

CNN has what appears to be the final national exit poll data. Open it up, then open the 2008 national exit poll data in a separate tab and compare/contrast.

The story of the election: Obama turned out his base. As a percentage of the electorate, young voters (18-29) actually increased by a point. So did turnout among Latinos. And turnout among blacks matched 2008. O’s ground game was simply amazing.

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With respect, AP, I don’t buy that. How can Obama have “turned out his base” when he got fewer votes — by millions — than he did 4 years ago?

jwolf on November 7, 2012 at 9:35 AM

With respect, AP, I don’t buy that. How can Obama have “turned out his base” when he got fewer votes — by millions — than he did 4 years ago?

jwolf on November 7, 2012 at 9:35 AM

He won independents last time. Romney won them by five this time – and still lost.

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 9:36 AM

… And how on earth did Romney not turn out the GOP? Seriously, it looks like McCain did a better job.

Revenant on November 7, 2012 at 9:36 AM

And we also turned out fewer than we did for McCain. I don’t know any conservative that stayed home. Maybe there are just fewer of us than there used to be. :-(

The Count on November 7, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Ugh. The gender gap absolutely killed us.

Women were 53% of the vote, and Obama won them by 4 more points than Romney did men.

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Early voting helped a lot I would guess. Also explains all his stops at colleges.

SAZMD on November 7, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Just a word of caution on total-vote counts — those will rise significantly over the next few days. I got stung on that in 2008 when I claimed that the election of Obama didn’t come from a big turnout, only to be proven wrong a few days later.

Ed Morrissey on November 7, 2012 at 9:43 AM

With respect, AP, I don’t buy that. How can Obama have “turned out his base” when he got fewer votes — by millions — than he did 4 years ago?

jwolf on November 7, 2012 at 9:35 AM

In fact he was off 11 million from 2008. Of course, we were off about 6 million as well.

TarheelBen on November 7, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Celebrity trumped competence.

changer1701 on November 7, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Well.. Let me take a crack at it. Evangelicals… The Mormon issue. Just saying that a portion of tje R base is bigoted.

Illinidiva on November 7, 2012 at 9:48 AM

O’s ground game was simply amazing.

He lost 10 million votes from 08. I wouldn’t call that amazing. Christ Romney shouldn’t have had to turn out the GOP vote, just as a fireman should have to tell you to get out of the burning building.

Zaggs on November 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM

doesn’t matter now, pray the 5 semi-sane Supreme court justices stay alive and motivated. I’m not sure what we’re supposed to do to reach out to “people of color”, they have the same rights and opportunities as most of us do. They just fall prey to demagogues telling them the world is against them. I do think some people had their problems with the Mormon thing, but not sure how you don’t look past that and see how much Obama sucks.

gsherin on November 7, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Just a word of caution on total-vote counts — those will rise significantly over the next few days.

Ed Morrissey on November 7, 2012 at 9:43 AM

OK, but how significantly? Millions of votes? Enough to bring us up to the ’08 count? Seems hard to believe.

jwolf on November 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

… And how on earth did Romney not turn out the GOP? Seriously, it looks like McCain did a better job.

Revenant on November 7, 2012 at 9:36 AM

I think he did, but the base is just much, much smaller than the Dem base now.

BadgerHawk on November 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

I’m not sure what we’re supposed to do to reach out to “people of color”, they have the same rights and opportunities as most of us do.

Amnesty is now being whispered – loudly – in most Republican circles this morning. Of course, if that was going to work, it would have secured us the Hispanic vote decades ago.

Doomberg on November 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

The problem isn’t how many votes were cast for either candidate. The problem is who does the counting. The Diebold electronic voting machines can be hacked in 10 seconds. Corruption is prevelant among Democrats. Thanks to electronic voting machines, votes can be easily manipulated and changed.

No need to vote any more. the results will be what ever THEY want to be!

WV. Paul on November 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM

I believe that the issue lies with how Mitt wet about the campaign. He didn’t realize that the pursuadable voters were not as sophisticated on policy and politics. Obama realized that very much and went full bore after that group. An then he did all he could to make sure they turned out.

Here is a piece I penned at the beginning of October on te subject.

http://americannewspost.com/dominic-godinez/5796/republicans-hope-for-a-rainy-day/

h a p f a t on November 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Numbers aren’t worth the paper they are written on. AP didn’t do exit polls in 19 states, 15 of which are conservative. Story at riehlworldview.com

boone on November 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM

It will be small consolation, but I hope the coming ravage hurts these feckless Obama voters badly. We (my family have been preparing for a 2nd Obama term since his election in 2008. We will not be immune to the pain coming, but we’re in good shape to ride it out.

When people whine about about $5+ gas, unemployment, inflation, high food prices…etc. etc., ask them if they voted for the Commie, if they say yes, punch them in the face.

tbarleycorn on November 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM

He lost 10 million votes from 08. I wouldn’t call that amazing.

Of course he lost votes. He had nothing to run on. Unemployment is 7.9 percent, Bush’s memory has receded, we’ve added $6 trillion in debt, and he still won the election. It’s an almost miraculous organizational effort.

Allahpundit on November 7, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Allahpundit on November 7, 2012 at 10:22 AM

It doesn’t make one optimistic for the future.

BadgerHawk on November 7, 2012 at 10:24 AM

obama is a talentless puppet, who was install by a coalition of progressives; by himself he is very little, but they created a bio, wrote speeches etc. and got him into the WH so the can carry out their agenda. so, “obama did this great ” and “obama did that great” is just as true as “obama is the greatest orator evah”.

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Allahpundit on November 7, 2012 at 10:22 AM

And yet, we lost votes too.

OneGyT on November 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Rigged Usa Elections exposed

WV. Paul on November 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Of course he lost votes. He had nothing to run on. Unemployment is 7.9 percent, Bush’s memory has receded, we’ve added $6 trillion in debt, and he still won the election. It’s an almost miraculous organizational effort.

“They’ll turn us into beggars, because they’re easier to please”. Thats not organization, thats just laziness.

Zaggs on November 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Link to post above.

WV. Paul on November 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Vote count fraud. That’s what happened coupled with another RINO, and the Marxist gets back in.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Here is one thing I’m not getting that people are saying “Our base is smaller now”. Well then, shouldn’t Obama have gotten closer to his 08 total? I think too many people just stayed home.

Zaggs on November 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

and , yes we need to improve. w got 44% hispanic vote, romney 27%; aiken and murdock – winnable seats. a lot to look at and improve.

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:30 AM

The story of the election: Obama turned out his base.

So, the RINO Mass. liberal centrist approach didn’t work?

Shocker.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Vote count fraud. That’s what happened coupled with another RINO, and the Marxist gets back in.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Just shut up about fraud.

Obama’s victory was so far outside the margin of fraud that even making the accusation makes you look like a fool. Even more, we held the Secretary of State’s office in most of those swing states Romney lost.

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Vote count fraud. That’s what happened coupled with another RINO, and the Marxist gets back in.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

oh please. that is what dems said in 2000, and ’04. there is fraud, but the turnout was not there for republicans this time.

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

So, the RINO Mass. liberal centrist approach didn’t work?

aiken, murdock, angle, o’donnell

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM

I think too many people just stayed home.

Zaggs on November 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

The independents who supported Obama four years ago stayed home.

People talking about overall voting numbers dropping should wait for all the numbers/votes to be added. It will bump the national vote up a couple million I suspect.

BadgerHawk on November 7, 2012 at 10:36 AM

aiken, murdock, angle, o’donnell

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Control of the House, loss of the Presidency.

Idiot.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:39 AM

aiken, murdock, angle, o’donnell

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Thompson, Rossi, Brown, Whitman, Fiorina. Also, Akin defeated the Tea Party candidate Sarah Steelman.

Both sides have lost big. You can’t pin it solely on the conservatives no matter how much you contort yourself.

Doomberg on November 7, 2012 at 10:40 AM

How to avoid vote fraud.

1. Paper ballots only, hand counted with observers from all sides present.
2. Voter ID required to vote, no exceptions.
3. Only one day to vote, no early voting.
4. No provisional ballots.
5. No voting hours extension, if you’re not in line by poll closing you don’t vote.
6. Absentee ballot only for valid reasonable excuse.

Please feel free to add to this list.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 10:41 AM

aiken, murdock, angle, o’donnell

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM

The common thread here is that RINOs stopped supporting them.

Dems elected a woman that claimed she was an Indian. They stood by her. She won.

RINOs are not reliable. And they lost 2 Presidential elections.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM

There will be some poetic justice in store for young voters when they struggle financially in their older age because of their choice last night….

Ltlgeneral64 on November 7, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Just shut up about fraud.

Obama’s victory was so far outside the margin of fraud that even making the accusation makes you look like a fool. Even more, we held the Secretary of State’s office in most of those swing states Romney lost.

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Really, how do you explain 16 million fewer votes cast than 4 years ago and Romney got almost 5 million fewer than McCain. Don’t give me that crap about turnout.

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Control of the House, loss of the Presidency.

Idiot.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:39 AM

crappy candidates who cannot win an election in their own state, are not likely to win majority needed for the presidency; sorry you are not bright enough to see that.

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Obama lost 10 million voters from 2008… However the “Missing McCain Voters” is what made us lose…

mnjg on November 7, 2012 at 10:53 AM

The common thread here is that RINOs stopped supporting them.
Dems elected a woman that claimed she was an Indian. They stood by her. She won.
RINOs are not reliable. And they lost 2 Presidential elections.
faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Also consider that in Illinois, Jessie Jackson Jr. Was re-elected while in the Mayo clinic for being bipolar. He hasn’t done his job since May and did not campaign. Also, an Illinois senator was re-elected after being indicted in September for taking a bribe. People are excruciatingly dumb and intolerant of Republicans. It isn’t the other way around.

h a p f a t on November 7, 2012 at 10:53 AM

crappy candidates who cannot win an election in their own state, are not likely to win majority needed for the presidency; sorry you are not bright enough to see that.

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:50 AM

ehh, sorry about the ‘idiot’ remark. And I have not been very bright this election cycle.

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 AM

White women voted 56% for Romney. All of Obama’s major support came from minority women and men. It is not a gender gap, it is a minority gap, and the only way to change that would be to try to out give the Democrats. We didn’t lose because of social issues, we lost because of the people dependent on government.

Rose on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 AM

faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:56 AM

accepted

runner on November 7, 2012 at 10:57 AM

OK, but how significantly? Millions of votes? Enough to bring us up to the ’08 count? Seems hard to believe.

jwolf on November 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

In 2008, there were 10 million votes counted after election day. Some states do not count absentee ballots until after the regular ballots. Some west coast states are not yet done counting their election day ballots.

AngusMc on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 AM

KingGold on November 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Watch the You tube video and see how easy it is to change votes. Very easy manipulation, nbefore any SOS can see the results.. I understand many people aren’t capable of thinking that our voting system can be so flawed. But it is!

WV. Paul on November 7, 2012 at 10:58 AM

The common thread here is that RINOs stopped supporting them.
Dems elected a woman that claimed she was an Indian. They stood by her. She won.
RINOs are not reliable. And they lost 24 Presidential elections going back to 1976. McCain, Dole, Bush 1(who only won the first time riding Reagan’s coattails), Ford.
faraway on November 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM

bgibbs1000 on November 7, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Well.. Let me take a crack at it. Evangelicals… The Mormon issue. Just saying that a portion of tje R base is bigoted.

Illinidiva on November 7, 2012 at 9:48 AM

you nailed it. Nobody wants to talk about the big, evangelical elephant in the room. Or rather, not in the room cus he sat at home with his “mormons are a cult” pamphlets.

johnnyboy on November 7, 2012 at 10:59 AM

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