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Chris Matthews: Who are these idiots who are voting third-party?

posted at 4:29 pm on November 6, 2012 by

Via Mediaite. On the one hand, he’s insulting hundreds of thousands of Americans who are turning out and voting on principle, in good conscience. They’re doing their civic duty despite no hope of victory. And he’s dumping on them for it.

On the other hand, ask me again late tonight how I feel about this if Romney ends up losing a squeaker in Virginia thanks to Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode.

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He’s right, you know. In a first-past-the-post system, there’s no excuse not to grit your teeth and vote for the candidate who most closely embodies your views and is in contention to win.

Good lord. Am I agreeing with Chris Matthews on something? Off to go flog myself with a chain, then.

KingGold on November 6, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Matthews must have voted third party himself then. All along, I thought he was just voting for a third rate street corner con.

bayview on November 6, 2012 at 4:36 PM

my tendency is to have a knee jerk reaction to anything that matthews has to say….. then i got a tingle up my leg thinking about matthews…. hehehehe……tingles

Dr. Demento on November 6, 2012 at 4:37 PM

I was just a teen in 1992, but I knew that Perot screwed our nation over.

portlandon on November 6, 2012 at 4:38 PM

If Gary Johnson can get 5% of the vote the Libertarians will have much better ballot access and public funding next time which just might be enough to get them into the 2016 presidential debates and that’s a goal worth trying for.

And given that Johnson is pulling votes from both Obama and Romney I fully expect whoever loses will spend their time whining about how it’s all Johnson’s fault instead of owning up to the inadequacies of their own candidate.

Rip Ford on November 6, 2012 at 4:41 PM

The few rabid liberals I know are all in Gary Johnson’s camp.

They understand that Obama is not good for the country but they would lose their disount at Birkenstocks if they were to vote Republican.

Ditkaca on November 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM

The GOP is fueling the third party vote by their own inaction and drunken spending. If they had kept some of the promises they made this would be much less of a problem.

sharrukin on November 6, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Chris Matthews: Who are these idiots who are voting third-party?

They’re RACISTS!!!

Glenn Jericho on November 6, 2012 at 4:51 PM

3rd party voting is not voting.

It’s a pretty simple concept. Some people don’t vote. A subset of people who don’t vote go to register their protest rather than just staying home. Good on them.

HitNRun on November 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM

If Gary Johnson can get 5% of the vote the Libertarians will have much better ballot access and public funding next time which just might be enough to get them into the 2016 presidential debates and that’s a goal worth trying for.

Rip Ford on November 6, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Public funding of presidential campaigns is a national travesty and a complete waste of public money.

No offense, but a libertarian’s goal should categorically not be claiming a spot at the public teat.

KingGold on November 6, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Dear Chris Matthews:

The people voting for a third-party candidate are called Americans. While I may not agree with them (or you, for that matter), they have the right to do so.

I know it’s hard, but please show a little respect and maturity for all Americans tonight as opposed to the boorish sycophant you usually are.

EB

EdmundBurke247 on November 6, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Chris Mathews will go home late tonite, put on his lady Gaga costume and weep the good weep.

onomo on November 6, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Last night I had a friend tell me one of their friends voted for Roseanne and Cindy.

What the …??!!

jya lai on November 6, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Public funding of presidential campaigns comes from that little checkbox on your income tax form asking if you want to donate to the Presidential Election Campaign. Given that it’s a voluntary donation specifically for the purpose of providing public funding of presidential campaigns, I see nothing wrong with Libertarians taking advantage of it if they can.

Rip Ford on November 6, 2012 at 5:12 PM

People should be voting for the person they want to win.

Axe on November 6, 2012 at 5:14 PM

This Johnson voter didn’t for a moment consider voting for Romney. So you can’t count all Johnson votes as votes Romney would have otherwise gotten.

Mark Jaquith on November 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM

From what I have experienced over the past month or so from various college-age folk who are socially liberal, it’s disenchanted Obama voters who’ll be voting 3rd party.

Al-Ozarka on November 6, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Anyone who doesn’t want Obama to win is an idiot if they voted for anyone but Romney. Stick your nose in the air and talk about voting for principal all you want. But if Obama wins, you helped keep him there.

Sgt_H on November 6, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Matthews concened about turnout? Tells us something?

Tater Salad on November 6, 2012 at 5:22 PM

On the other hand, ask me again late tonight how I feel about this if Romney ends up losing a squeaker in Virginia thanks to Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode.

Notice that it’s Tingles complaining about 3rd party voters, not Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. That tells you all you need to know about which voters are being siphoned off here. I believe most polls, even the crooked ones, trended that way too.

If Gary Johnson makes this a “squeaker” then it’s Obama losing New Mexico or Nevada narrowly as a result.

Gingotts on November 6, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Bbbaaaaahhhhh. You partisan hacks are sheep. Like good little lemmings you do as your told.

MoreLiberty on November 6, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Public funding of presidential campaigns comes from that little checkbox on your income tax form asking if you want to donate to the Presidential Election Campaign. Given that it’s a voluntary donation specifically for the purpose of providing public funding of presidential campaigns, I see nothing wrong with Libertarians taking advantage of it if they can.

Rip Ford on November 6, 2012 at 5:12 PM

That’s not true, actually. Checking the checkbox does not “donate” your money to the Election Campaign Fund, it merely releases three dollars to be allocated to the fund from the public treasury. The checkbox is the control put in place so the fund doesn’t become a piggybank.

If people want to fund the Libertarian party, they can write a check.

KingGold on November 6, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Who are these idiots who are voting third-party?

Dante, for one.

Basilsbest on November 6, 2012 at 5:27 PM

From what I have experienced over the past month or so from various college-age folk who are socially liberal, it’s disenchanted Obama voters who’ll be voting 3rd party.

Al-Ozarka on November 6, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Not everyone. My father and I both voted reluctantly for McCain in 2008 but went with Johnson this time around. We’ve both had enough of lies from both major parties, are not impressed with Romney (although he is better than Obama) and were not swayed by the argument the GOP trots out every 4 years of voting for the lesser of two evils because everything in the world is on the line. If we truly are that perilously close to the edge, than the GOP is just as responsible for putting us in that position by their own actions and enabling the Dems. Now at the end of the night if Romney wins, okay fine. Perhaps he’ll keep some of his biggest promises on the economy, which would be a nice change for a Republican. He’s not my candidate but he has the chance to earn our vote for 2016. If Obama wins, well that sucks big time and the GOP will have the chance to rebuild and find better candidates.

JohnAGJ on November 6, 2012 at 5:35 PM

…Well, damned if I don’t completely agree with Chris Matthews, for once in my life.

Hawkins1701 on November 6, 2012 at 5:50 PM

I want to know who are these idiots who are voting for Obama…again!

cajunpatriot on November 6, 2012 at 6:00 PM

On the other hand, ask me again late tonight how I feel about this if Romney ends up losing a squeaker in Virginia thanks to Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode.

Is there no room for personal responsibility on election night? When Obama loses, it won’t be because of Roseanne Bar and Cindy Sheehan – and everyone knows it. The same ethic applies, Mitt needs to make the sale and it was only once it dawned on him that winning by default wasn’t going to happen that his campaign showed some fight and life. The people voting Johnson or Goode may not be acting in our approximation of their self-interest but they also haven’t cost anyone else anything.

abobo on November 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Mitt needs to make the sale and it was only once it dawned on him that winning by default wasn’t going to happen that his campaign showed some fight and life. The people voting Johnson or Goode may not be acting in our approximation of their self-interest but they also haven’t cost anyone else anything.

abobo on November 6, 2012 at 6:02 PM

QFT.

And nuts to the losers who go “durr-hurr a vote for X is really a vote for Obama!”.

If your candidate can’t earn votes over the worst incumbent in the entire history of the United States of America, that is HIS fault. When a freaking ham sandwich would be a preferable choice to the current POTUS, blaming a near-total unknown 3rd party candidate is beyond pathetic.

MelonCollie on November 6, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Idiot is not what the Romans called people who didn’t vote. (Roman voting? Matthews knows even less about their constitution than about ours!) “Idiot” is the ancient Greek word for a private person, someone who keeps to his own affairs (a nomen agentis from ἴδιος, meaning “one’s own”). In fact the adjective ἰδιωτικός still means “private”, as in “private parking”, ἰδιωτικὴ στάθμευση.

Matthews phails again.

Tzetzes on November 6, 2012 at 8:49 PM