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8-year-old ordered to remove numbered football jersey by school

posted at 12:42 pm on September 14, 2012 by

What do 13, 14, 18, 31, 41, and 81 have in common? No, they were not the winning numbers in last night’s Powerball. In fact, those numbers are downright unlucky.

Just ask 8-year-old Konnor Vanatta, a student at Monfort Elementary School in Denver. Last week Konnor was told to remove the jersey he was wearing because it had the number 18 imprinted on the front and back. The order was given not because the school has a problem with Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning, who wears the official NFL jersey on which this one was modeled.

The problem, rather, is that some might associate the number 18 with the 18th Street gang, a Denver street gang. Some might also associate it with football, especially when it appears on an orange short-sleeve replica jersey like the one Konnor wore to school, but logic goes out the window when it comes to zero tolerance.

Other numbers that are verboten by the district are 13 (worn by Denver wide receiver Tyler Grisham, also the street gang Sureños) and 14 (wide receiver Brandon Stokley and the Norteños), as well as those three numbers with the digits reversed: 31, 41, 81.

“It was absurd to me. I was shocked,” Konnor’s mom Pam told CBS 4 Denver. “I was speechless.” Fortunately for this story, district spokesman Roger Fiedler was not speechless. He told The Denver Post that before this incident there was never an issue made about the strict dress code. “Since we did put this in place, we have had a reduction in the reports or incidents of students displaying gang attire and affiliation.” To which one might respond, what of it? The statement is akin to saying, “Since I dyed all of my shoes brown, I have been wearing nothing but brown shoes.” (Speaking of color, red and blue shirts are also on the don’t-wear list, since those hues are associated with, respectively, the Bloods and Crips.)

Pam Vanatta says she appreciates the school district’s concern but believes the prohibition goes too far by imposing it upon elementary-school-age kids. She adds, “When they are counting and when they’re learning their numbers, are they going to make them skip 14, 13, 41, 81, 18 when they are counting? It’s getting ridiculous.”

She is of course ignoring, overlooking, or unaware of the widespread practice, rooted in superstition, of numbering the 13th floor in high-rise buildings 14 and continuing sequentially from there. But who knew that that practice was a response to the Sureños?

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Idiocy. I am so glad I send my kids to Catholic school.

JoAnn1965 on September 14, 2012 at 12:57 PM

My kids are home-schooled. Funny, we don’t seem to have those kinds of issues.

johnnybgood on September 14, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Does this school hold classes on the 13th, 14th, 18th and 31st of each month? If so, why are they supporting gang violence?

Left Coast Right Mind on September 14, 2012 at 1:12 PM

This story is almost 2 weeks old – and already covered here.

yes this school is run by morons (what’s new?) but this is old news.

dentarthurdent on September 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Is that part of the “are you effin’ kidding me” policy?

Laura in Maryland on September 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Just be glad the kid wasn’t wearing a number 88.

rbj on September 14, 2012 at 1:41 PM

My kids are home-schooled. Funny, we don’t seem to have those kinds of issues.

johnnybgood on September 14, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Nope you do, you just don’t realize it yet. The other day the kids were throwing gang signs at each other when you stepped into the other room.

arnold ziffel on September 14, 2012 at 1:44 PM

So if a kid wears a “chai” pendant are they going to be disciplined? Chai means life in Hebrew and the numerological value of the world chai is 18, so Jews use that number a lot. As a matter of fact, in college the campus Hillel organization had an intramural football team that I played on and everyone wore #18.

rokemronnie on September 14, 2012 at 1:45 PM

So if a kid wears a “chai” pendant are they going to be disciplined?

The rule goes double for kids wearing chai.

Howard Portnoy on September 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM

I do wonder if 1st grade math teachers there are not allowed to have test questions like:
8 + 10 = ___
9 X 2 = ___
Would a kid get sent to the principal’s office for answering those questions correctly?

dentarthurdent on September 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Would a kid get sent to the principal’s office for answering those questions correctly?

dentarthurdent on September 14, 2012 at 2:10 PM

No, but the teacher will be sent home with pay.

pedestrian on September 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Actually pretty typical for libtards – ban a symptom (numbers) instead of solving the actual problem (actual criminal gang activity).

It’s quite possible the gangs are just screwing with the people in charge by using lots of different numbers, colors, clothing items, jewelry, and such just to see how many different things the morons in charge will try to ban.

dentarthurdent on September 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM

See!!!
http://kdvr.com/2012/09/14/loveland-school-seizes-rosary-beads-to-fight-gangs/

Now rosary beads are illegal.
Loveland is also close to Denver. And the whole Denver/Boulder area is controlled by Dems.

dentarthurdent on September 14, 2012 at 2:20 PM

See!!!
http://kdvr.com/2012/09/14/loveland-school-seizes-rosary-beads-to-fight-gangs/

Now rosary beads are illegal.
Loveland is also close to Denver. And the whole Denver/Boulder area is controlled by Dems.

Excellent stuff. They kill two birds with one stone. They infringe on religious liberty and reinforce ridiculous zero tolerance.

Howard Portnoy on September 14, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Actually pretty typical for libtards – ban a symptom (numbers) instead of solving the actual problem (actual criminal gang activity).
dentarthurdent on September 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM

It’s always easier to herd the sheep instead of killing the wolves.

VelvetElvis on September 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM

“Since we did put this in place, we have had a reduction in the reports or incidents of students displaying gang attire and affiliation.” To which one might respond, what of it? The statement is akin to saying, “Since I dyed all of my shoes brown, I have been wearing nothing but brown shoes.” (Speaking of color, red and blue shirts are also on the don’t-wear list, since those hues are associated with, respectively, the Bloods and Crips.)

So you don’t kick the actual gang members OUT of the school. Instead, you just make them have to guess a bit more haphazardly who they should stab that day.

Yeah. That’s a Hell of a plan there.

logis on September 14, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Well, this is the same kind of situation we have on the national stage right now. A movie (free speech) is condemed because someone (muslim) might (has) taken offense and violent action. A shirt color or number (free speech) is condemed because someone (gang) might take offense and violent action. But in both cases it is the free speech that is ruled out of bounds instead of the violent action. It is so much easier to cause the speaker to be silent than to stop the violent, so rights are trampled for expediency.

Universities have speech codes and speech zones too. And if you dare mention the name of Jesus or quote the bible you’ll get atheists or homosexuals trying to silence you.

AnotherOpinion on September 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM

You know, in those buildings where they skip numbering the 13th floor? There’s still a thirteenth floor. It’s just labeled “14.”

If the universe wants you, it will get you. You can’t fool it with signs.

JamesS on September 14, 2012 at 4:25 PM

And of course as the idiots running the school keep making colors, numbers, and other benign symbols illegal, all they’re really done is make it harder to identify the gang-bangers.
What will these idiots a the school do once they have outlawed all numbers, all colors, all jewelry, all clothing types, and all hair styles – yet still never done anything about the actual illegal gang activity?
Think about it…..

dentarthurdent on September 14, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Here’s a crazy idea. How about uniforms? identically colored pants, jackets, white dress shirts, and ties for the boys, solid colored skirts and white blouses for the girls. Problem solved. It’ll cut down on the gang activity as well. It’s hard to think of yourself as a bad-ass gangbanger when you’re wearing a little dress suit.

jms on September 14, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I got it figured out! I start a gand called “The Democrats”. Then they will be outlawed by themselves and we won’t have to deal with their stupidity anymore…

Gr8seezersghost on September 15, 2012 at 4:45 AM

I got it figured out! I start a gand called “The Democrats”. Then they will be outlawed by themselves and we won’t have to deal with their stupidity anymore…

Gr8seezersghost on September 15, 2012 at 4:45 AM

… and maybe we could get them to wear those d**ned Obama T-shirts and get them banned.

marlin77 on September 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM