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Todd Akin: The Daily Kos pick

posted at 5:32 pm on August 22, 2012 by

Continuing on a theme I pursued earlier–that Todd Akin never did have strong Republican support from Missouri voters, despite winning a primary–here’s evidence that Democrats like him a lot more than his own party members:

Over at the Daily Kos website, Kos himself has weighed in today with  a post titled: “Beating Todd Akin, but not beating him too hard.” The gist of the piece is that Democrats have to walk a fine line with Akin, allowing him to fail, but not too quickly:

Democrats are about to walk a tightrope in Missouri: They want to take advantage of Todd Akin’s pile of steaming fail to save the Senate’s most endangered incumbent in Sen. Claire McCaskill. On the other hand, if Akin’s numbers fall too far too quickly, the chances that he bails and allows Republicans to replace him with a Not-Akin increases.

Their strategy, says Kos, should be to hold off on the hard hits until after it’s clear Akin will not give up. Then:

So if Democrats soft-pedal it for the next month, they could continue to play rope-a-dope with Akin, and then hit him hard as soon as the hard deadline passes.

The “hard deadline” is September 25. Will Akin realize who the “dope” is in this “rope-a-dope” strategy?

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I doubt Akin reads much these days except certain religious tracts that support his ideas of the female reproductive system. So, I don’t think he will willingly read Daily Kos.

I am wondering why the Missourian Republicans and Tea Party People are so feckless as to not get behind a Libertarian already in the race or putting up a write-in candidate who has name recognition across Missouri. Jim Talent is one. Kit Bond is another.

Joel_The_Oneth on August 22, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Continuing on a theme I pursued earlier–that Todd Akin never did have strong Republican support from Missouri voters, despite winning a primary–here’s evidence that Democrats like him a lot more than his own party members:

Could the same be said of Mitt Romney? If support from a majority of primary voters isn’t necessary in a multi-partite race, why not question the legitimacy of Romney’s win? I sure have enough reason to question the legitimacy of Romney’s so-called “conservatism.”

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 6:18 PM

If support from a majority of primary voters isn’t necessary in a multi-partite race, why not question the legitimacy of Romney’s win?

Akin won fair and square, according to the primary rules. My point isn’t that he’s illegitimate. It’s that he lacks the humility to see that he didn’t have a groundswell of support, that he is replaceable.

Libby Sternberg on August 22, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Akin won fair and square, according to the primary rules. My point isn’t that he’s illegitimate. It’s that he lacks the humility to see that he didn’t have a groundswell of support, that he is replaceable.

Libby Sternberg on August 22, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Except that he’s not, according to Missouri state election law. Todd Akin is no more replaceable in any practical, legal sense than Mitt Romney is. I am simply saying that I wish there was as much weeping and gnashing of teeth over Mitt Romney’s SELF-PROCLAIMED progressivism as there was over Todd Akin’s a$$hattery. Are we really going to elevate a state-level race above a freaking presidential race in importance? Yeah, I’m sure you’ll have a laundry list of reasons you don’t think that’s what is happening, but it sure looks that way to me.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM

What I can’t believe is how slow the Missouri Republican Party is. So far, the effort has been to reason, cajole, threaten, embarrass, push, pull or some variant of get rid of Akin. He ain’t gonna budge. In his mind, “HE HAS A GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO HIS POSITION AS A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.” You guys, the Missouri Republicans and Democrats, gave the nomination to a nutcase. What options do you have? I see two and yet people still are trying to get Akin to quit. He won’t. GET OVER IT. Water under the bridge.

Either A: Back the Libertarian or B: Get a write-in candidate that truly represents your interests. Forget about Akin. He is done for. He lost the second his quote hit the airwaves. He can’t or wont realize it until he is defeated at the ballot box. He won’t help you by getting out of the race.

Time is running out. Get to work.

Joel_The_Oneth on August 22, 2012 at 7:00 PM

I am wondering why the Missourian Republicans and Tea Party People are so feckless as to not get behind a Libertarian already in the race…

Joel_The_Oneth on August 22, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Do you mean the convicted felon, who served time in prison after he was busted for running a marijuana operation in his apartment near Kansas City four years ago and, prior to that, was locked up in Kansas on charges of stealing and identify theft?

From an idiot to a convicted felon…

putting up a write-in candidate who has name recognition across Missouri. Jim Talent is one. Kit Bond is another.

Joel_The_Oneth on August 22, 2012 at 6:03 PM

That may well be what they do in the end. Unfortunately, it is still likely that McCaskill wins since Akin would pull enough of the vote from his hardcore followers.

It is better for him to leave completely.

Resist We Much on August 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Well now, at least you have answered with a good reason to not vote or back the Libertarian. Thank you.

Getting Akin to leave is a fool’s errand. No one has had any luck. Getting out the vote for a write-in is easier said than done, but you won’t know until you try.

Whining about Akin and not doing anything will also get McCaskill elected. A write-in might succeed.

Joel_The_Oneth on August 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Except that he’s not, according to Missouri state election law. Todd Akin is no more replaceable in any practical, legal sense than Mitt Romney is. I am simply saying that I wish there was as much weeping and gnashing of teeth over Mitt Romney’s SELF-PROCLAIMED progressivism as there was over Todd Akin’s a$$hattery. Are we really going to elevate a state-level race above a freaking presidential race in importance? Yeah, I’m sure you’ll have a laundry list of reasons you don’t think that’s what is happening, but it sure looks that way to me.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM

You once again show you’re not very bright when you equate both cases:

- everybody knew about what you call Romney’s self-proclaimed progressivism during the primary. Republican primary voters still picked him as their presidential nominee.

- Akin’s interview only came up after the primary was over. Most people in Missouri knew he was a religious conservative but I doubt more than a handful had any idea he was such an idiot. If people were aware he was a national embarrassment, they wouldn’t vote for him.

Can you understand the difference?

If Romnmey does something that leads DailyKos to write something similar about him, I’m all for replacing him at the top of the ticket.

joana on August 23, 2012 at 12:31 AM

I doubt Akin reads much these days except certain religious tracts that support his ideas of the female reproductive system. So, I don’t think he will willingly read Daily Kos.

Joel_The_Oneth on August 22, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Any bets that he’s got a complete autographed collection of Jack Chick tracts?

Alberta_Patriot on August 23, 2012 at 3:51 AM

Libby Sternberg should stick to writing fiction….all this GOP shrieking about Akin is idiocy, change the subject, go after all the Dem targets you appear as stupid as your GOP masters!

el Vaquero on August 23, 2012 at 8:09 AM

Here is a thought, almost as one, with few exceptions, Republicans, Tea Party People, Republican Elite, Republican Rank and File, want nothing to do with Todd Akin. That is quite a few who actually are standing on a principle. Some are because it will cause problems, but most are because Akin’s beliefs are toxic.

For this brief time, it is a very stark difference between the parties. The Democrats will ignore gaffes or defend anyone who has a D beside their name. Rapist, murderer or just a blithering idiot. Republicans won’t.

Joel_The_Oneth on August 23, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Libby Sternberg should stick to writing fiction….all this GOP shrieking about Akin is idiocy, change the subject, go after all the Dem targets you appear as stupid as your GOP masters!

Who is suggesting this is an either/or scenario? I go after Dem targets regularly, as do other conservative critics of Akin.

Akin essentially said that if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, she wasn’t “legitimately” raped. Yeah, yeah, he and his apologists spin it otherwise, but that’s at the heart of it.

I’ll speak out against that kind of idiocy as long as I have breath.

Libby Sternberg on August 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM

You once again show you’re not very bright when you equate both cases:

- everybody knew about what you call Romney’s self-proclaimed progressivism during the primary. Republican primary voters still picked him as their presidential nominee.

- Akin’s interview only came up after the primary was over. Most people in Missouri knew he was a religious conservative but I doubt more than a handful had any idea he was such an idiot. If people were aware he was a national embarrassment, they wouldn’t vote for him.

Can you understand the difference?

If Romnmey does something that leads DailyKos to write something similar about him, I’m all for replacing him at the top of the ticket.

joana on August 23, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Yes, I can understand the difference, Joana. That’s what galls me! People are more pissed off about stupidity than they are actual ideology! Of course we all knew about Romney’s progressivism — and “we” accepted it! At least I’m making headway with you. You did admit that Romney is progressive. That’s a start.

gryphon202 on August 23, 2012 at 9:23 AM

You once again show you’re not very bright…

joana on August 23, 2012 at 12:31 AM

You once again show that you can’t engage in conversation without being a condescending jerk.

MadisonConservative on August 23, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Except that he’s not, according to Missouri state election law.

gryphon202 on August 22, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Yes, he is. He can step down and be replaced. Only needs a court order, which is almost always granted, and then he needs to pay ballot reprinting costs. Everyone and their brother will fall over themselves giving him money to do that.

alwaysfiredup on August 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Yes, he is. He can step down and be replaced. Only needs a court order, which is almost always granted, and then he needs to pay ballot reprinting costs. Everyone and their brother will fall over themselves giving him money to do that.

alwaysfiredup on August 23, 2012 at 11:15 AM

And you trust that he’d step down of his own volition? Really? Sure, we’ve got people lined up to replace him. That doesn’t mean he can be easily replaced. The only way that he’d be off the ballot, realistically speaking, is if he chose not to run. I have yet to meet a selfless politician. Good luck, Missouri.

gryphon202 on August 23, 2012 at 11:48 AM

And you trust that he’d step down of his own volition?

gryphon202 on August 23, 2012 at 11:48 AM

With enough pressure, yes. this is why we should not “close ranks” because that just enables him to keep ignoring reality.

alwaysfiredup on August 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

With enough pressure, yes. this is why we should not “close ranks” because that just enables him to keep ignoring reality.

alwaysfiredup on August 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Right. That’s worked pretty well so far./

Pressure from the voters won’t get him to step down. Pressure from the Republican party aparatchik’s might, but if I were hoping for a head on a platter, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Dumb people don’t usually do smart things no matter how much they’re mocked and pushed and cajoled.

gryphon202 on August 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Akin won fair and square, according to the primary rules. My point isn’t that he’s illegitimate. It’s that he lacks the humility to see that he didn’t have a groundswell of support, that he is replaceable.

Libby Sternberg on August 22, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Golly. If only Romney would learn the same thing.

Stoic Patriot on September 2, 2012 at 1:49 PM