Comments on: John Roberts’ judicial activism and the health care law that time forgot

By: Difficultas_Est_Imperium

Difficultas_Est_Imperium — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 03:04:56 +0000

My view is that this John Roberts is a replicant.

Incept Date: June 28, 2012

By: Count to 10

Count to 10 — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:15:05 +0000

Except now the gov’t can tax you for not having a kitchen you do not need.

aniptofar on June 29, 2012 at 1:33 PM

They already do. You have to wake up to how broken our tax system is. The “mandate tax” isn’t even close to being the worst thing in it.

By: aniptofar

aniptofar — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:33:10 +0000

The penalty has another name: a fine. If I don’t get a license for my dog, the government can fine me. If a restauranteur doesn’t keep his kitchen clean, government can fine him. Similarly, if you don’t have health insurance, the government can fine you, under this law. It’s not a tax, it’s a fine. Fines are not taxes.

Linguistic gymnastics are not pretty.

Except now the gov’t can tax you for not having a kitchen you do not need.

By: rbj

rbj — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:20:58 +0000

kerncon on June 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I’m saying what it actually is, not Roberts’ convoluted machinations to keep it constitutional. And the EPA hands out fines all the time, as does OSHA. I’m just talking about government in general, doesn’t matter whether it’s at the federal, state, or local level. They all hand out civil fines for noncompliance with the law.

By: kerncon

kerncon — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:10:38 +0000

Except Roberts said the only way it is upheld is as a TAX. If it is a fine then it would be unconstitutional.

And, all of those fines you list are state fines, not federal. The states have far more jurisdiction on what they can do to/for the populace than the feds.

By: rbj

rbj — Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:03:51 +0000

The penalty has another name: a fine. If I don’t get a license for my dog, the government can fine me. If a restauranteur doesn’t keep his kitchen clean, government can fine him. Similarly, if you don’t have health insurance, the government can fine you, under this law. It’s not a tax, it’s a fine. Fines are not taxes.

Linguistic gymnastics are not pretty.