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On Wisconsin – a very telling exit poll question

posted at 8:15 am on June 6, 2012 by

Much will be written and said about the Wisconsin recall election that Governor Scott Walker and fellow Republicans won last night. Here is my take on one part of this overall topic:

While the exit polls were obviously off (newscasters kept telling viewers the race was too close to call based on those polls, when Walker won by seven points), one bit of exit polling is worth reviewing. CBS’s exit polls showed this:

Sixty percent of Wisconsin voters in today’s recall election say recall elections are only appropriate for official misconduct, according to early CBS News exit polls. Twenty-eight percent said they think they are suitable for any reason, while nine percent think they are never appropriate.

Since the exit polling seemed to skew leftward (to deliver the “too close to call” verdict), one can reasonably assume that this percentage was actually higher than 60 percent among the general electorate.

The takeaway from this poll result: people might have been unhappy with Walker, but they were clearly more unhappy with unions taking them down this $9 million-dollar-recall road.

And this comes at a time when unions can’t afford to have the public unhappy with them. A Gallup poll done last year showed that only a “slim majority of Americans” approve of unions today, and, while this holds steady from the previous year’s numbers, it’s part of a downward approval trend stretching back 60-plus years.

 

A 2011 Harris poll also showed that, while most people believe unions have improved wages and working conditions for their members, unions don’t give members “their money’s worth” and are too involved in political issues.

  • Over seven in ten believe that unions are too involved in politics (72%), are more concerned with fighting change than with trying to bring about change (71%) and stifle individual initiative (63%),
  • By 62% to 38% a majority of Americans disagree that unions give members their money’s worth for the dues they pay. Only 47% of union members agree with this sentiment.

Couple these findings with declining union membership in Wisconsin and elsewhere, and the picture for unions is far from rosy.

With the Wisconsin recall mess, unions managed to confirm, and possibly enhance, the negative views showing up in the Harris polls – unions don’t deliver “their money’s worth” to members and are “too involved in politics.”

As the old saying goes, “When you strike at the king, you must kill him.” The unions, aligned with Democrats, decided to “strike at the king” – Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, whose changes to collective bargaining rules and other reforms angered them mightily.

But they surely had to know that if they failed in their quest to unseat Walker, it would be more than just a win for Walker. It would signify yet more weakening of union power, emboldening union critics and opponents.

Scott Walker didn’t just win Tuesday’s election. The unions lost—big-time.

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Libby Sternberg is a novelist. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, she was a member of a union—AGMA—that did, in fact, improve working conditions and pay for its members.

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Libby, it’s important to differentiate between public and private sector unions. I assume AGMA is private….?

Buy Danish on June 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Libby, it’s important to differentiate between public and private sector unions. I assume AGMA is private….?

Excellent point. Yes, AGMA was a private union.

Libby Sternberg on June 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Unions use Marxist fantasies, coercive threats and government sponsorship (the gun) to extort from employers more for labor than the market demands. It is the labor market- the free market- that brings all wage increases and other benefits to laborers. I can see no way for any union to bring any net benefit to its members. I ask how exactly did AGMA accomplish any benefit?

WyattsTorch on June 6, 2012 at 10:00 AM

It was very telling, as I switched to CNN right before they called the race, last night just how much the MSM did not want Walker to win. Even after they called it for Walker, they continued to show the skewed exit poll numbers. And then Wolf quickly caught himself and provided the actual results, at that point in the evening. It was if they wanted to use that exit poll info to keep the voters voting, as if they could change the outcome.

chrisknits on June 6, 2012 at 10:00 AM

I ask how exactly did AGMA accomplish any benefit?

Good question. Here’s my story: I was an opera singer, and I belonged to two union opera companies, singing in the chorus (Baltimore and Washington – it was a thrill to walk through the Kennedy Center stage doors, let me tell ya). I also sang with nonunion companies.

The union had negotiated certain rules. We got a break every hour or so, we got overtime if the rehearsals went past a certain time limit, we were taught our music by the chorus master and not expected to learn it on our own (you have to memorize the whole thing, as you might realize).

Anyway, it was amazing how “organized” and “efficient” directors and conductors could be with union companies, while with nonunion ones, you might be in rehearsal to the wee hours while a director figured out his artistic vision..

So, yes, AGMA made our lives better. There was a cost – productions costs more, for sure. But getting into a union chorus was harder, as well — you had to audition every year. They were coveted slots.

Libby Sternberg on June 6, 2012 at 10:12 AM

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, she was a member of a union—AGMA—that did, in fact, improve working conditions and pay for its members.

Same here. I drove a cab a couple of summers during college. To get a hack license I was forced to join the Teamsters.

Howard Portnoy on June 6, 2012 at 10:38 AM

One of the Fox commentators, one I am unfamiliar with and apparently usually a backroom guy, said something interesting. The Unions thugish behavior has skewed the polls and the campaigning. People felt threatened. and the Police seemed to actively take the Union’s side. Yard signs were ripped up, yards trashed, cars keyed etc if Walker was displayed, voting records released) So pretty much mostly the Progressives were polled because the others would not talk.

pat on June 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Libby Sternberg; AGMA sounds less like a union and more like a guild.

The_Basseteer on June 7, 2012 at 12:00 AM