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Teacher tells 6th grade class that ‘Republicans are stupid’

posted at 3:15 pm on April 6, 2012 by

I suppose it can said of a Virginia elementary school teacher who allegedly told her students “Republicans are stupid” that she at least spoke her mind. Her actions are more defensible than those of a fellow Old Dominion State colleague who deviously tasked her students with finding flaws in the GOP presidential candidates but not in the lone Democratic candidate.

The Daily Caller reports that “as Republican voters were filing into the halls of [Colin] Powell Elementary School in Fairfax County to vote on Super Tuesday,” teacher Kristin Martin told her sixth-grade class that “Republicans are stupid” and “they don’t care about anyone but wealthy people and businesses.”

One of the students in the class told The DC:

It all started when this disabled kid came in and named all the Republicans candidates for Super Tuesday. She [Martin] said to him, ‘I don’t like them, I think that they are stupid.’

The blog additionally notes that Martin reportedly told the class that she had voted for Obama and that “Democrats do more for the community and schools.”

I reached out to John Torre, a spokesman for the school district, who said that the county’s investigation into the incident was “inconclusive.” The teacher, he told me, denies having made these statements, which means that in the district’s eyes it boils down to a case of “she said, they said.”

But not all the parents of children in Martin’s class are satisfied with that outcome. One mother, a self-identified Republican, is quoted by The DC as saying:

I felt like the teacher was brainwashing naïve, young children to believe people like me, my family and, to a certain extent, my daughter, were stupid.

The reaction is understandable, but I would find it far more instructive to know what a parent who is a Democrat thinks of this type of proselytizing—whether it happened or not.

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Why do liberals always feel the need to tell everybody their point-of-view and their beliefs like everyone around them cares?

Oh, right, it’s because of the Liberal Superiority Complex, whereby all liberals believe their views to be perfect and just, and therefore morally right, such that saying them is tantamount to simply saying good things. Nobody could find those views offensive except for people who don’t hold those views, who must be racist homophobic one percenters, by the process of elimination.

mintycrys on April 6, 2012 at 3:32 PM

What the parents should tell their children, who are conservative, when something like this comes up, “we listen to Rush and he doesn’t think we are stupid”?
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letget on April 6, 2012 at 3:37 PM

What’s really stupid is the public school monopoly.

Which most Americans, including a good deal of Republicans, support.

NoDonkey on April 6, 2012 at 3:41 PM

If the teacher had not said such a thing, why would the kids simply invent the story out of the blue?

crosspatch on April 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

If the teacher had not said such a thing, why would the kids simply invent the story out of the blue?

crosspatch on April 6, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Clearly the EBIL and stupid Republican parents put them up to it. /

StompUDead on April 6, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I reached out to John Torre, a spokesman for the school district, who said that the county’s investigation into the incident was “inconclusive.”

Why? Why would you do this? The teacher has a right to her opinion.

Dante on April 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Why? Why would you do this? The teacher has a right to her opinion.

Because it’s the job of a journalist to get’s the school board’s reaction in an instance where a teacher crossed the line. That this teacher was doing that is evident from the fact that the school board investigated.

And while it is true that teachers have a right to an opinion, it’s generally frowned upon when they share that opinion with impressionable young charges.

Howard Portnoy on April 6, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Why? Why would you do this? The teacher has a right to her opinion.

Because it’s the job of a journalist to get the school board’s reaction in an instance where a teacher crossed the line. That this teacher was doing that is evident from the fact that the school board investigated.

And while it is true that teachers have a right to an opinion, it’s generally frowned upon when they share that opinion with impressionable young charges.

Howard Portnoy on April 6, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Why do liberals always feel the need to tell everybody their point-of-view and their beliefs like everyone around them cares?

Oh, right, it’s because of the Liberal Superiority Complex, whereby all liberals believe their views to be perfect and just, and therefore morally right, such that saying them is tantamount to simply saying good things. Nobody could find those views offensive except for people who don’t hold those views, who must be racist homophobic one percenters, by the process of elimination.

mintycrys on April 6, 2012 at 3:32 PM

I would propose an alternative explanation. Although the liberals truly believe the ideas they support, they are troubled by all the evidence (like the recent finding about how the nearly-extinct-due-to-global-warming climate-change polar bears are not exactly nearly-extinct).

When they constantly spout off about their views to anyone in earshot, it’s not just about convincing other people (like their students) to agree with liberal ideas… it’s about convincing themselves to continue believing. The liberals need an echo chamber in order to remain liberals, and they’ll take any chance to make one.

Mr. Prodigy on April 6, 2012 at 5:16 PM

She apologized, so its all good.

Why? Why would you do this? The teacher has a right to her opinion.

Dante on April 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM

That depends on her birth certificate, right?

Whether she is natural born, or native born.

How ’bout you and the Emperor hash that out.

cozmo on April 6, 2012 at 5:29 PM

The reaction is understandable, but I would find it far more instructive to know what a parent who is a Democrat thinks of this type of proselytizing—whether it happened or not.

The Dim-o-crat parent would have no problem with the kind of proselytizing that this teacher was doing. But the same Dim-o-crat parent would be up in arms if the teacher had said the same thing about Dim-o-crats. As always, they are hypocrites.

cicerone on April 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Why? Why would you do this? The teacher has a right to her opinion.

Dante on April 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM

That’s not the issue. And if you had any intellectual honesty you wouldn’t need to be reminded of it. The issue is really very simple: Is it appropriate for an adult to use her position of authority as a teacher to influence how these children think on issues that are not relevant to the curriculum? Sure, she has a right to her opinion but can you give us one reason – any valid reason – why it’s necessary or acceptable that she expose other people’s children to her political bias?

cicerone on April 6, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Scott Walker “fired the shot over the bow” and started a long over-due war with a group that chose a low-paying profession with a very easy college track but managed to elevate their pay and status with the now obsolete mantra “it’s for the children” (one of those “shut-up” things).

Flash forward about 30 years and you will find that the only people benefitting were the educators. The “children” don’t perform any better (unless the schools choose to doctor the test scores).

So we are at war. In Wisconsin we expect $100mil to be spent in trying to fire the guy that started it all, hoping to stem the movement that seems to be spreading around the country. Teachers are the majority of that movement and in any war both sides employ a propoganda department.

Now the required “well Howard” (was trying to finish my tax returns and then you have to post this one????)

teejk on April 6, 2012 at 7:38 PM

This teacher is setting a great example for her students. Not only did she spout intolerant nonsense in the classroom, but when she was caught, she lied about it. How are the kids supposed to respect her? They know what they heard.
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And I’m with NoDonkey — there is no need for public schools, at all. I homeschool my own kids, but I strongly encourage all parents who do not find this a viable option to consider private schools, or if money is an issue, try forming a cooperative school through your church or neighborhood group. There are excellent online programs that cost very little, also. Your kids deserve better than a state-run school.

Armorica on April 6, 2012 at 7:38 PM

unstinkingbelievable

cmsinaz on April 6, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Because it’s the job of a journalist to get the school board’s reaction in an instance where a teacher crossed the line.

Howard Portnoy on April 6, 2012 at 4:52 PM

But that’s just it. “Crossed the line” is having an opinion you disagree with, so you contact her superiors to get their reaction. It’s a harmless opinion, and trivial, and borders on enforcing goodthink.

Dante on April 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM

That’s not the issue.

cicerone on April 6, 2012 at 6:06 PM

It is to me, and that’s not something you get to decide.

Dante on April 6, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Well, in her defense, there ARE some Paulbots running around, even in Virgina.

MunDane68 on April 6, 2012 at 8:14 PM

But that’s just it. “Crossed the line” is having an opinion you disagree with, so you contact her superiors to get their reaction. It’s a harmless opinion, and trivial, and borders on enforcing goodthink.

No. Crossing the line is a teacher placing undo influence on her students. It’s not a “harmless opinion” when a teacher is presenting it as propaganda to young, impressionable minds. I would feel the same way, frankly, if a teacher tried to indoctrinate her students to reject liberalism as stupid. I wonder if you can say the same.

As for her superiors, again, they already had a reaction. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have conducted an investigation into her actions.

Howard Portnoy on April 6, 2012 at 8:37 PM

No. Crossing the line is a teacher placing undo influence on her students. It’s not a “harmless opinion” when a teacher is presenting it as propaganda to young, impressionable minds. I would feel the same way, frankly, if a teacher tried to indoctrinate her students to reject liberalism as stupid. I wonder if you can say the same.

As for her superiors, again, they already had a reaction. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have conducted an investigation into her actions.

Howard Portnoy on April 6, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Again, that is your judgment. This is nothing but punishment for thought. And of course her superiors have already had a reaction. That wasn’t the point.

Dante on April 6, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Someone should tell them the last REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT averaged 5% unemployment.

Wagthatdog on April 6, 2012 at 9:36 PM

This is nothing but punishment for thought.

Kind of how this “dialog” is beginning to seem.

Howard Portnoy on April 6, 2012 at 9:52 PM

The problem is that it isn’t an opinion backed by fact. It is a lie, or in best case, a belief, as easily demonstrated by many Republicans with extremely high IQs.

She is allowed to have an opinion and to express it. However, she should not be allowed to spout unqualified untruths, whether or not it is a group that is stupid or perhaps her belief in Creationism, when she is in the classroom.

Fundamentally, it is no different than when Libbies go after teachers for expressing their beliefs about liberals. Both are inappropriate.

THAT is the issue. She is working with very young people as a major authority figure and what she says has weight. And as such, she needs to be circumspect in her speech around them. And that’s why she can be called out in an employment venue for what she says.

ProfShadow on April 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM

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Jazz Shaw on April 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM

I reached out to John Torre, a spokesman for the school district, who said that the county’s investigation into the incident was “inconclusive.”

Why? Why would you do this? The teacher has a right to her opinion.

Dante on April 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM

She basically called the disabled kid stupid. (Presumably if a 6th grade disabled kid can name the Republican nominees, the kid’s Republican) So you’re good with that? Calling someone stupid just because of their political beliefs? Not that the belief is stupid or misguided, but the people are stupid? You feel that that is an appropriate position for an educator. I just want clarification.

As far as I’m concerned the teacher can think whatever she wants, but when she calls kids “stupid” because of their political beliefs, she’s crossed the line.

talkingpoints on April 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM