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Minnesota Liberals Think People Of Color Are Too Stupid To Keep Track Of IDs

posted at 8:55 am on February 23, 2012 by

Between 70% and 80% of Minnesota voters favors the Voter ID proposal – a proposed constitutional amendment that’d require photo ID to vote in the state.

Some of us favor it because it’s the first step in a series of election reforms that will help us ensure that our election system in fact has integrity; there are increasingly strong suspicions that the election system in Minnesota, with its reports of fraudulent election-day un-identified vouched registrations (among other abuses), lacks that integrity.

Others have the common sense to know that 32 states currently require some degree of voter ID, and elections work just fine; the elderly and students register and vote, just like adults (significantly, most of the non-ID states are Democrat, including states renowned for dirty elections, like Illinois, New York, New Jersey and California)

But for whatever reason, Minnesota voters overwhelmingly favor the measure.  Even in the most “conservative” poll on the subject, the Survey USA poll which showed a 71-23 margin of support overall, the measure even wins among declared liberals, 35-32.

So the anti-ID crowd is getting desperate.

And to paraphrase Gandhi, when you’re fighting the DFL machine on a subject like this, first they ignore you.

Then they mock you.

And  then they call you a racist.

The site was sponsored by “Take Action Minnesota”, an astroturf group thats is basically what all of the various non-profit Wellstone cults became over the last decade or so.

And – oboy.  A black guy in a striped suit.  Not good.  Tasteless, unpolitically-correct and tone deaf.

And yeah  I guess that, all by itself, invalidates the entire move to bring integrity back to our voting system.

BAD MN Majority.

MN Majority came out with another – which also aroused TakeAction’s drearily predictable ire:

Lest you think all TakeActionMN does is do screenshots, there was some writing and stuff too:

This image is on a Minnesota Majority website. It is trying to scare us into changing our state constitution to require a photo ID to vote. Photo ID would restrict voting rights for over half a million Minnesotans – especially people of color. Photo ID is voter suppression. And it stops here.

I’m always puzzled by the notion that requiring an ID to vote – like we require them for lesser “rights” like cashing a check, using a credit card, setting up a bank account, getting a Social Security Card, getting a copy of your birth certificate, buying Sudafed, getting into a bar, buying a firearm or ammunition, buying a car, taking out a loan, dropping your kids off and picking them up at drop-in daycare, buy alcohol or cigarettes, apply for welfare, food stamps or any sort of medical assistance, rent an apartment, get admitted to a hospital, or get a marriage license – “disenfranchises” anyone, much less ten percent of all Minnesotans, as “Take Action MN” claims.   Or, for that matter, that VoterID infringes, in and of itself, on the right to vote.  It doesn’t; it merely means you need an ID to do it.

Indeed, once you get past cartoon pratfalls, it’s TakeAction that makes the genuinely racist claim - the ludicrous and frankly offensive notion that ten percent of Minneostans – apparently, all minorities, students and the elderly, although nobody has any idea where they got that number, and next month it could very well be “eleventy-teen percent” and nobody will say “boo”.   But to me, their claims sound a lot like “minorities and people of color are too dumb to keep track of their paperwork and ID cards”.

 I’m sure that’s not what they meant.
But what they do mean is “if you support Voter ID, we’re going to call you the worst thing there is in modern discourse; the R word”.  It’s the nuclear option – for people who don’t have a factual or ethical argument.

At any rate – we know how Gandhi’s bromide ends; “Then you win”.

TakeAction and the rest of the Minnesota astroturf cult are getting increasingly desperate on this issue, as well as the other big wedge issue likely headed for the ballot this fall, an amendment to make Minnesota a Right to Work state.  Without fraudulent votes and endless union money, the DFL’s position in Minnesota will get a lot weaker.

 And that’s a big win for everyone, no matter what your race, ethnicity, or relentless political correctness.

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Are we sure that TakeActionMN doesn’t oppose voter ID because THEY are too stupid to figure out how to get and use a photo ID?

climbnjump on February 23, 2012 at 10:04 AM

When I registered to vote after moving back to Texas, the county clerk’s office sent me a card. I put it in my wallet. Still there. Right next to my drivers license.

mchristian on February 23, 2012 at 10:20 AM

This just further shows that the libs are the true racists. They’re the ones who believe minorities are too stupid to use an ID – but of course the real story is the Dems believe minorities are too stupid to vote properly without being told who to vote for – and dead people can’t submit their Dem vote if they have to show an ID.

dentarthurdent on February 23, 2012 at 10:38 AM

libs like it when minorities are stupid… mindless sheep voting for them… when people of a minority get educated and aware of things, they might actually think for themselves and stray away from the rest of the herd!! can’t let that happen!

Sachiko on February 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM

The only reason I can imagine for someone to be opposed to voter ID is if they are planning on loading up the van with unidentifiable voters and taking them around to vote at multiple precincts. That way the fact that they already voted once could not be documented. Hey, isn’t that what ACORN was doing!?

rockncoal on February 23, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Where’s lib4life on this topic? I really want to hear an every day bleedin’ heart’s explanation.

preallocated on February 23, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Well, I may not be the fastest boat in the water, but doesn’t every state already issue Voter Registration cards? I got one when I was still in HS in NYC, and up until after 9/11, it was considered a legitimate form of ID, including to get a damn Passport or even to register for social services.

Basically, the State is both accepting and rejecting its own ID?

I got ZERO problem with showing any ID at any time when requested. Why should I? I got nothing to worry about…and you would think, especially with the Soros/AlGore segment of society that whined about “making sure every vote is counted”.

Well, isn’t ID a form of count? Especially since if the machines are broken (or tampered with) a ID noted and logged in a book is the last form of certifiable record to prove or disprove voter fraud or abuse.

BlaxPac on February 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Well, isn’t ID a form of count? Especially since if the machines are broken (or tampered with) a ID noted and logged in a book is the last form of certifiable record to prove or disprove voter fraud or abuse.

BlaxPac on February 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM

That right there is the crux of the issue. If you want to eliminate voter fraud, and make sure everyone’s legal valid vote counts, then you should support voter ID. Therefore, if you are against voter ID, I would say you don’t want fraud/abuse proven, so you must in favor of intentional voter fraud.

dentarthurdent on February 23, 2012 at 6:21 PM

dentarthurdent on February 23, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Ah, but see, we do have to be careful about how this argument is to be presented.

For one thing, i would NEVER say it’ll eliminate all voter fraud…it’s not the point: its to reduce it to as close as an absolute zero as possible…or at the very least, leave an audit trail that cannot be easily removed.

The system can be complex or as simple as a DMV ID with a biometric reader. The only downside is that the IT infrastructure would have to be beefed up to a better standard than now.

Again, it isn’t perfect, even with all the above, but dammit, at least make it harder than now, instead of us accepting jokes of pets and dead people voting…

Elections *do* count. Be thankful the last 4 years have taught us that, if nothing else.

BlaxPac on February 23, 2012 at 8:38 PM

The overwhelming majority of voter fraud is through absentee ballots, people who have moved away, are deceased, or are entirely fictitious can request ballots on-line and through the mail without ever making contact with an election official.

In real life this occurs where a city or county clerk is a Democrat and can work the system unobserved. An example is Seattle Washington, where several hundred voters list their home addresses at the voter registration office.

halfbaked on February 23, 2012 at 9:05 PM

For one thing, i would NEVER say it’ll eliminate all voter fraud…it’s not the point: its to reduce it to as close as an absolute zero as possible…or at the very least, leave an audit trail that cannot be easily removed.

BlaxPac on February 23, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Well, you got me there. We probably can never eliminate fraud 100% – but yes as close as possible to zero. But to my main point, I do absolutely believe that anyone who is against voter ID is in favor of voter fraud – and most likely a beneficiary and perpetrator of the fraud.

dentarthurdent on February 24, 2012 at 10:25 AM