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Democrat hypocrisy on religious liberty

posted at 10:33 am on February 13, 2012 by

Juicebox mafioso Matt Yglesias tweeted: “Newfound GOP enthusiasm for religious exemptions from generally applicable laws seems dangerously close to sharia.” There is an interesting point there, although Yglesias manages to get it almost completely backward.

He ought to know he went astray, based on his very next tweet directing readers to Justice Scalia’s opinion in Employment Division v. Smith, which ruled that while states have the power to accommodate otherwise illegal acts done in pursuit of religious beliefs, they are not required to do so. Yglesias failed to mention the Smith decision prompted calls for a statutory restoration of prior case law, which was generally understood to require various exemptions for religious liberty. Smith was decided in 1990, so the enthusiasm for religious exemptions is not “newfound.”

Nor was the enthusiasm for religious exemptions limited to the GOP. The Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) was sponsored in the House by then-Rep. Chuck Schumer, who is smart enough the be “diplomatic ” about the HHS mandate requiring Catholic institutions to insure its employees for birth-control, abortifacients and sterilization. RFRA’s 170 cosponsors included not only Republicans like Newt Gingrich and Bob Dornan, but also Dems like Nancy Pelosi (who deems religious freedom an “excuse” regarding the HHS exemption), Lynn Woolsey and Rosa DeLauro, all vocal defenders of the HHS mandate. RFRA was sponsored in the Senate by no less than Ted Kennedy; its cosponsors included not only Republicans, but also current mandate supporters like Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer and Patty Murray. RFRA passed the House unanimously and the Senate 97- 3 and was signed into law by Bill Clinton.

In short, if you are looking for the people who have had a sudden conversion on the issue of legal exemptions for religious freedom, you will be finding them overwhelmingly on the Democrat side of the aisle.

The interesting point Yglesias raises in his backward, partisan way is whether conservatives should be as keen on religious exemptions from general laws as they have been. Although Yglesias no doubt treats the prospect of sharia law as a phantasmagorical boogeyman, the experience of European countries trying to assimilate growing Muslim populations demonstrates the potentially long and fractious road America may face on this front. It might be a better long-term solution for the Catholic Church to recognize that its religious liberty is best protected when everyone’s liberty is protected — in this case, by supporting the overall repeal of Obamacare.

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Juicebox mafioso Matt Yglesias tweeted:

You deserve an award for that line. It’s awesome.

Lourdes on February 13, 2012 at 10:46 AM

In short, if you are looking for the people who have had a sudden conversion on the issue of legal exemptions for religious freedom, you will be finding them overwhelmingly on the Democrat side of the aisle.

Yes, you’re correct (again) about that.

I was watching the Grammy Awards briefly and observed the entire audience that was filmed with bowed heads engaged in observing a prayer from the stage…for Whitney Houston.

Not that her soul does not deserve such prayer (it does, it did) but that after decades of watching and once attending the Grammy’s, I have never.seen.any.audience.there engaged in prayer…not on any national tragedy, not for anything.

So it has become a “social trend” to be seen and heard praying, by the Left. I’m glad they’re finally doing so, and have ceased the embarrassment at being seen doing so for those who always have prayed, but, one wonders how those prayers will be received when the “wants” and “hopes” are for things such as abortion and other sins.

Lourdes on February 13, 2012 at 10:51 AM

And, I enjoyed hearing a Catholic Bishop on FOX this weekend refer to Sebelius as one who says she’s Catholic but whose behaviors/actions show no indication that she takes ther faith seriously. To that effect, what he said.

Lourdes on February 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Lourdes,

Sadly, I can’t take credit for “juicebox mafia.” The term originated with Noah Pollak.

Karl on February 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM

And, I enjoyed hearing a Catholic Bishop on FOX this weekend refer to Sebelius as one who says she’s Catholic but whose behaviors/actions show no indication that she takes ther faith seriously. To that effect, what he said.

Lourdes on February 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM

In my experience – having been raised Catholic – I’d say that’s very common. While the church may be hardcore about it’s decrees, many many Catholics do not follow those rules “religiously”. There is a lot of hypocrisy – people “sin” in many ways, then just go to confession for absolution but never change their ways. While the church is officially against pre-marital sex, abortion, contraceptives, etc. – many Catholics ignore those rules as archaic, overly strict, and not in line with the current real world – and fully support the Democrat party whose standard platform directly violates church rules. I’m frankly surprised the Catholic church is putting up such a public fight since they’ve always been so in the tank for the Dem party. Look around – most Catholic politians are Dems – and they are the type who are Catholic on the surface, but really don’t follow the rules of the church.

BTW – I am no longer practicing Catholic – now atheist – and that has a lot to do with the extreme hypocrisy within the church that I saw growing up.

dentarthurdent on February 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Liberalism should be viewed as a religion that stands in antithesis to Christianity: morally, politically, and philosophically as well. These two world views cannot coexist. But Liberalism can coexist with Islam since they are essentially both Totalitarian in nature. The Left bends over backwards not to offend Muslims, but seeks to offend Christians at every turn. This mandate is just a skirmish in the war between these world views. Do you really think the Democrats would dare roll out some mandate requiring Muslims to violate their conscience?

Blue Collar Todd on February 13, 2012 at 12:19 PM

A senior priest from our archdiocese was on the radio today explaining the Church’s position and why they reject the compromise. He refused to call out Nancy Pelosi by name. He only referred to her as the misguided legislator from San Francisco. I almost blew coffee through my nose! I’m glad some within the Catholic church are seeing these liberal Catholics for what they are: Liberals first and Catholics when it’s convenient.

HoosierStateofMind on February 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Liberals first and Catholics when it’s convenient.

HoosierStateofMind on February 13, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Exactly. In my experience, the Catholic population is heavily infested with hypocrits. But the church won’t do anything about them, because in IMO, for the church it’s all about the money.

dentarthurdent on February 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM

The first clue was slinging “sharia” around as if it has any equivalence to the doctrines of either Catholics or Protestants.

J.E. Dyer on February 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM

In my experience, the Catholic population is heavily infested with hypocrits. But the church won’t do anything about them, because in IMO, for the church it’s all about the money.

dentarthurdent on February 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Or, it could be that the church is following the precept outlined by Jesus in Mark 2:17:

“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

J.E. Dyer on February 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM

The good news is, the Democrats will start pushing the free trade agreement with Colombia so the Occupiers can stock up on drugs for the spring festivals they have planned.

xdwall on February 13, 2012 at 1:35 PM

obozocare isn’t about healthcare. It’s about lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist CONTROL of one-sixth of the US economy, lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist WEALTH AND INCOME RE-DISTRIBUTION, lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist EXPANSION OF ABORTIONS WITH TAXPAYER MONEY, lunatic-left destruction of the Catholic Religion and every other Christian religion that opposed it’s dictates and unlimited lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist NANNY STATE COMMANDS and RULES for the American people.

Remember this LIE from OBOZO: “if you like your current heath plan, you can keep your current health plan” ?

In addition to being an insult to the US Constitution, obozocare is an affront to the American people. It must be removed, along with each and every lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist that supports it.

Our new president, along with the new Republican controlled House and Senate must, as their first official act, repeal obozocare, then tear it up into a million pieces, burn the pieces, bury the ashes and cover the burial site with 1000 tons of concrete.

TeaPartyNation on February 13, 2012 at 1:38 PM

The problem isn’t the exemptions, the problem is the laws.

disa on February 13, 2012 at 1:43 PM

and cover the burial site with 1000 tons of concrete.

TeaPartyNation on February 13, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Using non-union labor.

disa on February 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Our new president, along with the new Republican controlled House and Senate must, as their first official act, repeal obozocare…

…while simultaneously replacing it with market-based reforms.

Repeal is not enough. Repeal should be the last line of the bill (measured in dozens of pages rather than thousands) that replaces it.

Dexter_Alarius on February 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

J.E. Dyer on February 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM

I connect with the point you are trying to make here – and do agree with it completely.

However – once it becomes obvious that scripture is being used for purposes of political expediency, we do need to stamp the dust from sandals and move on.

oldfiveanddimer on February 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

ObamaCare: Dead… just a matter of time.

Turtle317 on February 13, 2012 at 2:07 PM

On the home page your link editor labels this: “Democratic hypocrisy on religious liberty”. Shouldn’t that be ‘Democrat’?

ignatzk on February 13, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Or, it could be that the church is following the precept outlined by Jesus in Mark 2:17:

“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

J.E. Dyer on February 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Sorry – I don’t see the connection of your scripture quote with my comments or this thread.

dentarthurdent on February 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Or, it could be that the church is following the precept outlined by Jesus in Mark 2:17:

“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

J.E. Dyer on February 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Now that is a total buzz kill when dentarthurdent was just looking to prove that he was better than all those hypocrits in church without having to be a better person. Get with the program, J.E.
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WhatNot on February 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

dentarthurdent I left the church for a while to try and find a church without Hypocrits. Thing is I did not find it and ended up back in the Catholic church. Thing is the church puts a lot of weight on personal responsibility. That is why they do not require tithing they way many of our Christian Brothers do.

In my search I saw many hypocrits from many churches. I mean the Baptists have Al Sharpton and others. My Mom was raised as a Lutheran yet my Uncle was a racist.

The Churches teachings are pure their people are not.

Their was only one perfect man and they killed him for it. We should all remember that.

huskerthom on February 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM

“Newfound GOP enthusiasm for religious exemptions from generally applicable laws seems dangerously close to sharia.”

As opposed to actual sharia, which idjits such as the twit thus quoted don’t seem to mind so much.

squint on February 13, 2012 at 6:03 PM

blockquote>Now that is a total buzz kill when dentarthurdent was just looking to prove that he was better than all those hypocrits in church without having to be a better person. Get with the program, J.E.
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WhatNot on February 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM

So what part of your comment gets the / tag?
If you’re attacking me for something I never said (or “attempted to prove”), then you’re acting like a typical lib troll.
More than anything else, I can’t stand hypocrits – and that’s what my prior comments were about. I’ve never even hinted at being better than anyone else, I just don’t like to be around hypocrits – so maybe you should get down off your own ivory tower.

dentarthurdent on February 13, 2012 at 6:07 PM

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Allahpundit on February 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM

BTW – I am no longer practicing Catholic – now atheist – and that has a lot to do with the extreme hypocrisy within the church that I saw growing up.

dentarthurdent on February 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Sorry you feel that way. I am a new Catholic and converting is the best decision I ever made. You must have grown up after Vatican !I and were not well catechized. If you read and follow the Catechism of the church, you will understand the weakness of human nature and the folly of dismissing God as nonexistent.

chai on February 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM