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Ron Paul campaign denies white supremacist ties

posted at 8:00 am on February 4, 2012 by

Only the naive thought stories like this were going away:

Political hacktivist group Anonymous claims to have found emails linking Texas Rep. Ron Paul to an American white supremacist group, a claim the Paul campaign says is completely untrue.

Las Vegas-based group American Third Party Position (AP3) — whose stated goal is “to reach out to Americans of European ancestry and particularly to disenfranchised White workers, farmers and students who have become victims of the discriminatory affirmative action policies” — was allegedly hacked by Anonymous Tuesday, and emails purportedly reveal close ties between Paul and members who are admitted white supremacists.

Last week the story was that Paul was deeply involved in the company that produced racist, anti-gay, conspiracy-mongering newsletters, Ron Paul & Associates, and closely monitored its operations, signing off on articles and speaking to staff members virtually every day.

I am in no position to confirm or deny the Anonymous claims, but Paul is the guy who once bragged about how much money he raised from the mailing list for The Spotlight, the conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitic tabloid run by the Holocaust denier Willis Carto. Paul’s columns appeared in in the American Free Press — another Carto publication. His 2008 campaign was, er, unconcerned about donations coming via the Stormfront website. And Paul’s association with Civil War revisionists and the John Birch Society are recent-to-ongoing. Accordingly, the campaign’s denials are going to be met with skepticism in many quarters.

But probably not from all quarters. My interest in the newsletter story has been Paul’s apologists and supporters in the media and libertarian circles. These folks are are spinning for Paul because they see his campaign as their best chance at gaining real-world political influence. That’s interesting insofar as these sorts of libertarians generally look down on supporters of the major parties as grubby and unprincipled. But for all their touting of Ron Paul as the principled candidate in the race, he’s a poseur on entitlements.

Beyond what these stories reveal about supposedly principled libertarians, there is a potential residual effect on the election. Although Paul is downplaying expectations for the Nevada caucus, it appears he plans to stay in the race and amass as many delegates as he can for leverage at the GOP convention. Giving Paul a prime speaking slot or influence over the platform will give the establishment media a chance to drape his dirty laundry all over the eventual nominee, much as they hung Pat Buchanan’s around the neck of George H. W. Bush in 1992.

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I deny that I’m a middle-aged woman who blogs over @ HA.

I’m really a vampire rabbit and I blog over @ Kos.
Isn’t denial fun.?
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annoyinglittletwerp on February 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Yawn.

JohnGalt23 on February 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM

These folks are are spinning for Paul because they see his campaign as their best chance at gaining real-world political influence. That’s interesting insofar as these sorts of libertarians generally look down on supporters of the major parties as grubby and unprincipled.

Wearen’t spinning anything. Some of us don’t consider this issue a disqualifier, take it however you want to. What’s unprincipled is people who support our racist home-lending practices and drug laws commenting on the insensitivities of others.

abobo on February 4, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Yawn.

JohnGalt23 on February 4, 2012 at 9:21 AM

I know, Ron “Stormfront” Paul’s nazi-hugging is old news to Ronulans and non-cultists alike.

G M on February 4, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Karl, check this story out. Get past the inflammatory headline and there is some info on Paul that shows just how long and deep his ties to Neo-Nazi’s goes, from his family history to his ties with the ‘Liberty Lobby” and Carto.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/76540883/Ron-Paul-The-Most-Dangerous-Nazi-in-America

jp on February 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Wearen’t spinning anything. Some of us don’t consider this issue a disqualifier, take it however you want to. What’s unprincipled is people who support our racist home-lending practices and drug laws commenting on the insensitivities of others.

Ron Paul’s racist connections are absolved because *you’re* “racist”!

Who are you to be talking about “unprincipled,” again?

And we will take it however we want to, namely, as you being a racist.

deepelemblues on February 4, 2012 at 2:35 PM

A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso. On top of being on the board of directors of A3P, former $cientologist, and high ranking Ron Paul organizer, he also is the account owner of german nazi forums and store nsl-forum.org, rhs-versand.com

this is the guy who Paul meets with and helps campaign wise

golembythehudson on February 4, 2012 at 3:47 PM

one of the e-mails from anonymous at the nazi website:

Subject: Trolling
Date: Aug Mon 2011
To: pahillbilly (scott6509@verizon.net)
From: Edmund Ruffin (oldman9x@yahoo.com)
Text:
I did not call you a troll. I said you were trolling the forum. when you make posts supporting the one candidate who is most repugnant to White Nationalists of all who are running, you are trolling. Ron Paul is weak on immigration, because he has a lot of libertarian in him. I, as well as Smedley butler and other Senior mod have posted as much. But he is the biggest thorn in the side of jewry of all the candidates. there is nothing wrong with criticizing his position on immigration. He deserves it. I have known Ron Paul since the mid-1970′s, when I met him a t one of Blanchard’s “Hard money” conferences in New Orleans. I have sat with him at breakfast and dinner and in hotel rooms where guys were relaxing and talking over adult beverages. I know the man. If you had read his newsletters back then, you would know how tenuous his position is. If he appeared a likely winner of the nomination, they would hit him full bore with his racist and anti-semitic writings and he would be finished as a mainstream candidate. Criticism of his position on immigration is permissible, and deserved. Pushing the most jew-loving candidate in the field on a WN board is trolling. You can continue to push Bachmann if you must, but there will be a reaction that you won’t like.

one white supremacist to another touting Pauls Jew-hatred as an endearing quality, apparently they’ve been buddies since the 70′s

golembythehudson on February 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Karl, check this story out. Get past the inflammatory headline and there is some info on Paul that shows just how long and deep his ties to Neo-Nazi’s goes, from his family history to his ties with the ‘Liberty Lobby” and Carto.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/76540883/Ron-Paul-The-Most-Dangerous-Nazi-in-America

jp on February 4, 2012 at 2:10

wow, very detailed

golembythehudson on February 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

from that above link:

Faced with a politician intent on committing genocide most Jews willgo into denial and say, “No this can’t happen here.” They don’t wantto face the fact that, judging from past history, in every generationthere is most probably going to be some political figure out to massmurder the Jewish people and this time it is Ron Paul, only he isadept at hiding it. Jewish people better arm themselves in case hecomes to power. He is a crypto-Nazi with a hidden genocidalagenda. The Jew haters Right andLeft all know that he is a dedicatedNazi ideologue and he cannot be bought off or bribed. That is whythey rally behind him. It would be a complete disaster for all non-Whites (Jews are not Whites) if he became President.However Ron Paul still has a long way to go. The first thing he hasto do before going after American Jewry is to destroy Israel. RonPaul knows that it would be almost impossible to goad America intoattacking the Jewish state. He needs a proxy and he sees Iran as his best hope because the leader of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,is a Holocaust denier

from a recent interview Paul did:

on Jan 5 2009 Ron Paul conducted an interview with Iranian state owned English language propaganda channel, Press TV, where he urges ending support of Israel, defends Hamas and tactics of suicide bombing, states that Hamas is innocent and the Israeli state are the aggressors.

” to me i look at it like it’s a concentration camp, and people are making bombs, like, they’re the aggressors?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1t4O9CcZQ0

golembythehudson on February 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM

You cretins are despicable and ignorant.

Aquateen Hungerforce on February 4, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Here Is An Email From Someone In Ron Paul’s Campaign To Kelso

Jamie, just wanted you to know that I though it was ashame that you were treated so badly at the CPAC meeting. I intend to let Ron Paul know that you have a large following, and are well respected by many White people. There was no reason for Ron Paul’s man to get involved in any lobby conversation that you may have—now or in the future. Paul should apologize to you personally—there was no reason for you to be insulted by some weird looking flunky of Paul. Let me tell you Jamie, Paul has some real characters in his family tree in Pennsylvania. They wouldn’t be too hard to locate in the Dormont-Greentree area. :wink_smile: Sincerely, Penn Dutch Subject:

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/anonymous-reveals-close-ties-between-ron-paul-and-neo-nazis/

golembythehudson on February 5, 2012 at 2:42 AM

Here Is An Email To A White News Now Poster Regarding A Member Of Ron Paul’s Campaign

You’ve got an admirer in Imbar Date: Nov Mon 2009 To: Alexander Hamilton (simongr81@aol.com) From: Jamie Kelso (24.7keyboard@gmail.com)

Text: Hello Alexander, Hey, great posting. Imbar just called me and he likes your stuff too. Imbar is Ron Paul’s #2 man in Illinois. Owns his own manufacturing company. Young guy like you. Jeff (Imbar) and I have been buddies for years. We met up with Ron Paul in Ames, Iowa in Aug. 2007. Nice work, Jamie Subject:

Here Kelso Invites A White News Now Supporter To Meet Ron Paul

Re: your banners Date: Jan Sat 2010 To: Benjamin Franklin (principally.correct@yahoo.com) From: Jamie Kelso (24.7keyboard@gmail.com) Text: Hello Ben, ……We’ll have hundreds of great banners here on WhiteNewsNow soon. We’ll have the most interesting top of the forum anywhere. Thanks for the great good effect that your presence and posting here has on what we’re accomplishing. I appreciate getting a bunch of messages from you, please keep ‘em coming. See ya’, Jamie

P.S. I’m arriving in Wash.,DC at 3:30pm on Wednesday, Feb. 17th at Reagan Airport (in DC). I’m leaving on Tuesday morning Feb. 23 from Reagan. We’ll be meeting up with Nick Griffin on Wednesday night..a few of us. I let Nick know about the CPAC going on on Thurs. and Fri. at the Marriott Hotel north of the White House. Nick loved the idea of getting to this…since there will be 10,000+ right-wing White folks at the Conservative Political Action Conference. Ron Paul will be there Fri. afternoon. Want to meet up with him?

golembythehudson on February 5, 2012 at 2:45 AM

Here Are Some Emails From Kelso Regarding neo-nazis and white supremacists Working For Ron Paul’s Campaign, they also work in the American third position party

“A couple of my buddies are among those dozen [email sent]. ‘Knucklehead’ is my buddy and Sr. Mod named Imbar on WhiteNewsNow [a racist website owned by Kelso]. He’s also Ron Paul’s #2 man in Illinois, Chicago, where is a manufacturer. His name is Jeff

Hello HF, Cool. We had a great meeting in Orange County last night, at which I was asked by the Chairman of the American Third Position party to take on the work of his personal assistant. Bill Johnson is the Chairman, and a good friend. He has been Ron Paul’s top man in Southern Calif. for the last 3 years. So this is a big deal, and will really help WNN. Much more to report later. Thanks, Jamie

golembythehudson on February 5, 2012 at 2:49 AM

and in the MSM’s unbridled double standards, “African Americans for Barack Obama” is just fine.

The_Livewire on February 5, 2012 at 11:50 AM

and in the MSM’s unbridled double standards, “African Americans for Barack Obama” is just fine.

The_Livewire on February 5, 2012 at 11:50 AM

That’s it!? That’s the best you can offer: “They did it, too!”

Solaratov on February 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM

And Obama denies being a part of a black supremacist church that teach the 10 principles of “Blackness”.

Bulletchaser on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM

@Solartov,

I don’t comment often so I’ll assume it’s a matter of not being clear.

Ron Paul’s associations with racists are abhorent and should be condemned. At the same time, the press would at least report this, where they’d let President Obama slide as they always do.

I was just commenting on the double standard, not justifying the Pauls’ actions.

The_Livewire on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM