Is Romney’s electability a myth?
posted at 1:16 pm on December 27, 2011 by Karl
John Hawkins of Right Wing News thinks so, but most of his arguments are unpersuasive. He asks:
Doesn’t it say something that GOP primary voters have, at one time or another, preferred Donald Trump, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, and now even Ron Paul (In Iowa) to Mitt Romney?
It does. On the other hand, doesn’t this say something?
Newt Gingrich (62%) and Mitt Romney (54%) are the only two candidates Republicans say would be acceptable presidential nominees from their party, emphasizing the degree to which the GOP race has narrowed down to these two men at this juncture. A majority of Republicans say each of the other six candidates measured would not be acceptable nominees.
Indeed, with Newt coming under increased scrutiny, those numbers might favor Romney today. Doesn’t it say something that a plurality sees Romney as the candidate most likely to beat Obama, or that head-to-head polls consistently show Romney faring better against Obama than his rivals?
Hawkins then discusses Romney’s moderate image:
To some people, this is a plus. They think that if conservatives don’t like Mitt Romney, that means moderates will like him. This misunderstands how the process of attracting independent voters works in a presidential race. While it’s true the swayable moderates don’t want to support a candidate they view as an extremist, they also don’t just automatically gravitate towards the most “moderate” candidate. To the contrary, independent voters tend to be moved by the excitement of the candidate’s base (See John McCain vs. Barack Obama for an example of how this works). This is how a very conservative candidate like Ronald Reagan could win landslide victories. He avoided being labeled an extremist as Goldwater was, yet his supporters were incredibly enthusiastic and moderates responded to it.
I do not know where Hawkins got any of this. In the first instance, Romney appeals less to moderates than you may think. Hawkins likely exaggerates the impact of ideology on voter choices, ignoring the fundamentals. Reagan won in 1980 in large part because the economy was terrible. Had the GOP nominated George H. W. Bush instead, Anderson likely would not have run as an independent and Bush would likely have garnered more votes than Reagan. That doesn’t mean the GOP should have nominated Poppy Bush; far from it. But Reagan could run against a lousy economy, while Goldwater was running against Johnson in a booming economy. Pure independents are the most likely to vote on the state of the economy; the argument that enthusiasm affects election outcomes is not supported much by the data.
Hawkins notes Romney is a proven political loser. He doesn’t add “in Massachusetts.” Not too many Republicans win in Massachusetts. Romney did and ended unpopular, suggesting he was too conservative for the land of Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank. But being Mitt means getting to be a double-loser to Hawkins: insufficiently conservative and not good at winning statewide in a liberal state. Hawkins makes a related argument that Romney will be hammered for his tenure at Bain Capital. I have no doubt Democrats will make those attacks, but they likely play stronger in places like Massachusetts than elsewhere (how they play in states like PA and OH is a valid point). Presumably, if Romney is the nominee, he will point out that some Bain acquisitions grew (e.g., Domino’s Pizza), while others were downsized, and then launch into a spiel about rightsizing bloated government bureaucracies, something Obama has manifestly failed to do.
Hawkins claims Romney will run poorly in Southern states, but then delves into GOP primary numbers, which is not the same as electability in the general. Currently, Romney runs as well as or better than Gingrich against Obama in swing states, including those mentioned by Hawkins.
Hawkins maintains Romney will lose his advantages in fundraising, organization and establishment support in a general election. That’s largely true, but not an argument that a NotRomney who has been unable to match Romney in these areas is thus a better choice in terms of electability. Hawkins also claims Romney has been avoiding serious scrutiny, which is inaccurate.
Hawkins notes “the Mormon factor” and cites a poll suggesting it’s a problem. He does not cite the Pew poll suggesting it’s a bigger problem for Romney in the primaries and not so much in a general election. Indeed, the poll Hawkins cites makes clear that Mormonism is a problem for Democrats.
Finally, Hawkins notes Romney is a flip-flopper, asking “Is it just me or didn’t George Bush beat John Kerry’s brains in with the “flip flopper” charge back in 2004?” It’s not just Hawkins who thinks that, but again, the data doesn’t really support that theory. As Jay Cost notes, Kerry did a better job at peeling away voters from the “other” side than Bush did.
In sum, there is not a “plethora of evidence” that Romney’s electability is a myth. That does not mean that Romney must be the nominee. Indeed, as noted earlier, the challenger’s ideology matters maybe a percent or two — important in a close election, but most things are important in a close election. Romney is not my ideal candidate, but none of the candidates is my ideal candidate. At the moment, to paraphrase Philip Klein (on Twitter), Romney is the only candidate showing up to the job interview wearing a suit. With Gingrich sliding, conservatives have to hope some NotRomney can up his or her game soon.








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Oh boy Karl are you in for it now..
EricPWJohnson on December 27, 2011 at 1:28 PM
I don’t really like any of the Republican candidates. They each suck for different reasons. However, I will vote for the GOP nominee, regardless. ABO in 2012.
sage0925 on December 27, 2011 at 1:56 PM
The problem with knowing how electable Mitt is … is that he isn’t being fully vetted now. Not enough critical articles are being written to flush out the likely Democratic lines of attack.
Its the unknowns that worry me. He wiped emails clean as Governor. Is there anything that survived that we don’t know about?
He is keeping witnesses to everything in his past (allegedly) quiet, such as his time at a Mormon mission in Paris, where witnesses have come forth to say they have been asked to keep quiet about his time there.
No one has provided a full accounting of all the companies Bain took private and the details of that, and Romney’s relationship to those winning and losing decisions that have been made.
He has avoided the media, including Fox News, arguably most balanced in its treatment of the GOP candidates.
All of this means there are unknowns that will surely pop up during the campaign. At least with Gingrich (and I’m an undecided non-Romney, but for either Perry or Gingrich at this point), its all out there and can be dealt with.
My concern is that all of this doesn’t make me comfortable that the vetting has created a scenario where in a general he will be exposed to being “unelectable”.
I think the current polls showing his position, independent of this proper vetting, are unfortunately relatively meaningless. Simply a name recognition poll, on the order of “Generic Republican” polling, which Romney comes across.
On the flip side, if he is so electable … why is the entire Democratic media complex encouraging us to think of him as our candidate? If they feared him, they would be working on destroying him now, not after he gets the nomination as they surely will.
Between him making himself a non-target with generic policy statements, not showing himself to stand for anything that can “be pinned to him” in the general election, and trying to hide or make his past invisible, he seems like a candidate hoping to get through like Obama – unscrutinized.
That strategy will never work for a conservative candidate.
And thus, I am unpersuaded by those who argue he is “the most electable”. More electable than Cain, Bachman … sure. Gingrich, Perry? Mmm … not convinced.
PrincetonAl on December 27, 2011 at 2:49 PM
What will work in the GOP nominee’s favor is that Barack Obama is by far the worst president in American history.
There is no “hope” that another term for him, will be by any reasonable measure, a success. He is an unqualified disaster, incapable of learning anything from his multitude of mistakes.
Once the GOP nominee sorts itself out, reasonable people will galvanize on the message of defeating the absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent incumbent. Anyone the GOP nominates will be FAR better than Obama and that includes Mitt Romney. The process getting to the nominee will be long forgotten by November.
NoDonkey on December 27, 2011 at 3:53 PM
Eh. I take both points here. I’ll submit there isn’t much of a quantifiable explanation as to why Romney’s electability is a myth, but I think the primary reason to question it is something that’s hard to tease out in polls. I think it’s something only Republican-voting conservatives can truly feel. It feels like if Romney wins the nomination, we’re laying the responsibility of electing him President in the hands of Democrats. It shouldn’t be lost on anybody that Romney’s the popular kid in school nobody actually likes, but nobody says anything because, well, he’s the popular kid.
jas88 on December 27, 2011 at 3:58 PM
Everyone should read the new Jay Cost piece on Romney.
Karl on December 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM
Romney if nominated will lose. It’s like nominating McCain all over again – real conservatives will not make any effort to come out and vote. I’m trying to figure out what will be different between Obama under a Republican house and Senate and Romney in the same setting – other than with Romney as President Democrats will be able to claim the socialized medicine and VAT and other tax increases were approved by Republicans.
Over50 on December 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM
I don’t like Romney. He’s not a real conservative, but if he gets the nomination i’d have to vote for him over Obama. Staying home on election day could mean another 4 years of Obama. I think there’s enough people fed up with Obama to vote for anybody but him just to get him out.
CTpatriot on December 27, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Obama and the MSM will take Bain Capital and hang it around Romney’s neck like an albatross. Add in that Romney is a demonstrably unprincipled human weather vane, and his electability is indeed a myth.
The entire GOP field sucks, but two of them are entirely unacceptable as far as I’m concerned: Mitt Romney and Ron Paul.
If a significant percentage of other GOP voters feel the same way, they won’t work for Romney in the general…and they may even stay home on election day or vote third party.
Besides, I don’t believe for a second that Romney would do the hard work of pushing solutions to the country’s long-term fiscal problems. All it would take is a bad poll and some negative press to send him scurrying into the Democrats’ arms to “compromise.”
In short, I don’t think a Romney White House would be much better than another four years of Obama. The main difference is that Republicans would get the blame.
DRayRaven on December 28, 2011 at 8:08 AM
Good. I’m glad to hear that Obama will be easily tossed out of office. If the liberal Mitt Romney wins, it will be without the vote of this long-time conservative / republican.
WTF is wrong with the Republican Party. The voting public self-identifies as conservative over liberal 2:1. Yet, when it comes nomination time, they get real liberals and we get centrists (who lose.)
SAMinVA on December 28, 2011 at 8:24 AM