Surprise! Letting govt. control kids’ diets goes bust.

posted at 9:44 am on December 13, 2011 by
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Obesity among children is apparently on the rise, and one portion of that issue obviously involves their diet. So out in Seattle, the school district took swift action several years ago and removed all of the candy, soda and junk food from the vending machines in the schools. Instead, students were offered things like bottled water, juice and dried banana or apple chips. So… how’s that working out for ya?

The Seattle School Board is considering relaxing its ban on unhealthful food in high schools amid complaints from student governments that the policy has cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars in vending-machine profits over the past seven years.

But board members now acknowledge they probably went too far. The restrictions, which are more strict than the now-crafted state and federal nutrition guidelines, allow only products such as milk, natural fruit juice, baked chips and oat-based granola bars.

Perhaps not surprisingly, many students are not particularly interested in those items.

In 2001, before the junk-food ban was passed, high-school associated student body (ASB) governments across the city made $214,000 in profits from vending machines, according to district data. This year, they’ve made $17,000.

Well, there’s a shock. In a television report on CNN they interviewed a few students who said they were simply either bringing their own treats to school or running out at lunch or during study halls to the store down the street and buying them. Gee… ya think? So the end result was just that they cost the student government a ton of funding with no real change in dietary habits.

Keeping children healthy is important. It involves a lot of personal choices involving not only what and how much they eat, but how much physical activity they get, as opposed to sitting in front of the television or a video game. And who do you suppose has the real power to influence those choices? At one time in the far distant past I seem to recall that parents were responsible for that, not the school or the government. And if the parents fail at that job, Seattle has demonstrated once again that the rest of the “village” is completely incapable of it.

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who said they were simply either bringing their own treats to school or running out at lunch or during study halls to the store down the street and buying them.

Ok, so it did have the virtue of encouraging them to get exercise. ;)

LarryD on December 13, 2011 at 9:58 AM

I want to know what’s wrong with the way schools handled lunches when I was a student. There was one hot meal on offer every day. If it was something you didn’t like, you planned ahead of time and packed. There were no vending or soda machines, no second or third options for different lunch choices, and no dessert trays, either.

Aside from the Internet, television, and video games, it’s not hard to figure out why kids are getting fat – many schools have turned their cafeterias into all-you-can-eat buffets.

Of course, Mommy and Daddy will scream at the school board if spoiled-rotten Junior has to pack his lunch, but there is something to be said for the take-it-or-leave-it lunches my school system offered when I was a kid.

DRayRaven on December 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM

DRayRaven on December 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM

OK… OK… I’ll get off your lawn.

Jazz Shaw on December 13, 2011 at 10:10 AM

who said they were simply either bringing their own treats to school or running out at lunch or during study halls to the store down the street and buying them.

Ok, so it did have the virtue of encouraging them to get exercise.

LarryD on December 13, 2011 at 9:58 AM

And contribute to local businesses!

dominigan on December 13, 2011 at 10:34 AM

Maybe they should offer fresh peas and arugula in the vending machines.

BobMbx on December 13, 2011 at 10:51 AM

As usual, if you suppress something for which there’s a market, it will go underground. I bet there’s a flourishing trade in illegal Snickers and gummy worms.

Mu on December 13, 2011 at 11:10 AM

Of course, Mommy and Daddy will scream at the school board if spoiled-rotten Junior has to pack his lunch,

At our schools, it’s burqa mama and no dada and “now that there are Muslims around we’ll only serve pork of any kind twice a month (!) and then put a little asterisk so you know that the pepperoni isn’t halal.

I went to a high school with a large Jewish population. They ate what was served or brought what they preferred. But since every one of these Somali immigrants gets free lunch, they are now the cruise director of the lunch menu, every Muslim whim satisfied.

Bring your own stuff!

winoceros on December 13, 2011 at 11:25 AM

…halal.” <>

winoceros on December 13, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Its obvious to me they simply did not cast their net wide enough. They should have banned all ‘bad’ foods in a 20 mile radius, and disallowed any food be brought in.

Progressives, I tell ya, boy are they stupid.
/s

What is really needed is to bring back Public Floggings.

orbitalair on December 13, 2011 at 11:34 AM

I want to know what’s wrong with the way schools handled lunches when I was a student. There was one hot meal on offer every day. DRayRaven

Trying to make me feel even older? Back when I was a student, you brought your lunch to school or WALKED home at lunch.

Of course, back then schools were places where you went to get an education, not a social engineering exercise built around the church of worshipping sports.

small_c_con on December 13, 2011 at 11:50 AM

Of course, Mommy and Daddy will scream at the school board if spoiled-rotten Junior has to pack his lunch, but there is something to be said for the take-it-or-leave-it lunches my school system offered when I was a kid.

DRayRaven on December 13, 2011 at 10:05 AM

Lunches for my K-5th grades were at a dirt-poor pariochal school, and 80% of the meals were anything from generally unappetizing to downright disgusting. I have dear memories of that place for many reasons but the food is not one of them…

But by the time I was in (public) high school, lunches usually looked like they’d been catered from Burger King, complete with fried potatoes of some kind!

Can’t we find some kind of middle ground for pete’s sake?!

MelonCollie on December 13, 2011 at 12:27 PM

OK… OK… I’ll get off your lawn.

Jazz Shaw on December 13, 2011 at 10:10 AM

Just sayin’…we can’t increase menu choice in school cafeterias without expecting kids to pick the wrong things and thus gain weight.

I don’t support government mandates to serve celery and carrots, but it’s possible to produce one balanced meal per day without offering them hot dots and mac & cheese or buy potato chips and soda from vending machines.

As for the kids who go down the street to buy junk during lunch, the solution for that is simple, as well. Back in my day (when my family dreamed of having a ‘ole in the ground), we weren’t allowed to leave school grounds at lunch without being 16 or older.

DRayRaven on December 13, 2011 at 2:10 PM

Unremarkable; even at a ‘juvenile’ level, liberalism continues to prove in the real world that it simply doesn’t work, doesn’t achieve it’s stated goals, and ultimately is actually harmful, not beneficial.

Won’t hold my breath waiting for adult liberals to ‘get it’, of course.

Midas on December 13, 2011 at 7:15 PM

DRayRaven on December 13, 2011 at 2:10 PM

See, I think you’re a good example – even with the evidence that mandating this kind of thing doesn’t work, you refuse to do anything but suggest other ways to mandate/enforce it (eg: don’t let them leave campus).

Guess what, champ – they’ll bring it with them (like some already do). Your answer will almost undoubtedly be some combination of searching them when they get to school, confiscating unapproved comestibles, and perhaps even fining said perpetrators, right?

Crazy idea here; how ’bout we leave them the heck alone? Or you can continue to force them all you want – how’s that working out so far?

Midas on December 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM

See, I think you’re a good example – even with the evidence that mandating this kind of thing doesn’t work, you refuse to do anything but suggest other ways to mandate/enforce it (eg: don’t let them leave campus).

Guess what, champ – they’ll bring it with them (like some already do). Your answer will almost undoubtedly be some combination of searching them when they get to school, confiscating unapproved comestibles, and perhaps even fining said perpetrators, right?

Crazy idea here; how ’bout we leave them the heck alone? Or you can continue to force them all you want – how’s that working out so far?

Midas on December 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Well, champ…”bringing it with them” is what I meant by packing a lunch. If the parents don’t care about their kids getting fat, that’s fine with me. At least it’s not subsidized by the taxpayer.

And excuse me for saying so, but it’s only responsible on the school’s part NOT to allow children to leave the grounds while the school is responsible for them. I certainly don’t want my kid wandering off who-knows-where when she’s supposed to be in school. And if something happened to her while she was off-campus, I would want to know why the hell the school didn’t keep a better eye on her.

This was my point, champ: as of now, most schools allow kids to buy potato chips, soda, and other assorted junk food from vending machines – AND they give them multiple lunch choices just in case one hot meal is too healthy to be to their liking.

How is that working out?

DRayRaven on December 14, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Go watch “Hoop Dreams” again. It’s about kids in the ghetto getting recruited by high schools and colleges for basketball. Set in 1980-81, before the schools took over feeding the kids, there was NOT ONE fat person in any of the scenes shot in the inner city. The families fed themselves using their money carefully!! They knew how to live without the gubmint telling them how.

PattyJ on December 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM