Air Force drones in local law enforcement: Yes or No?

posted at 5:00 pm on December 12, 2011 by

You might want to get your think on regarding this question, because it has already come up.  The Los Angeles Times reports that Predator drones, operated for border security out of Grand Forks Air Force Base in North Dakota, have supported local law enforcement on at least two dozen missions since June 2011.  Although the first recorded instance involved a Predator returning from a border security mission, some of the missions have been launched specifically to support the sheriff and local police in Grand Forks.

In one case, a Predator supported the sheriff’s department in making an arrest at the property of suspected cattle thieves (who are also reportedly members of the Sovereign Citizen movement).

The cattle thieves – the cattle in question were indeed found on their property – had warned the sheriff’s deputies away with firearms prior to the Predator-assisted arrest.  They certainly seem to have coming whatever the due process of law ends up throwing at them.

But does the fact that they were on the wrong side of the law justify the use of US Air Force surveillance assets, working for US Customs and Border Protection (CBP), in apprehending them?  If the assets had been National Guard helicopters working for CBP, would it have been proper for them to provide surveillance for a local law-enforcement matter that had no connection to border security, illegal immigration, or illegal trafficking?

LAT quotes a retired USAF general as saying that drones under federal control are now being used routinely to support local law enforcement and emergency responders.

Former Congresswoman Jane Harman (D-CA), for one, says it’s a mistake to do this.  She chaired the House Intelligence Committee from 2007 to 2011 (and although I have political disagreements with her, she has been good overall on intelligence issues).  Harman helped block attempts by DHS in 2008 and 2010 to use military intelligence satellites in domestic (federal) law enforcement.  LAT quotes her as follows:

Using Predators for routine law enforcement without public debate or clear legal authority is a mistake, Harman said.

“There is no question that this could become something that people will regret,” said Harman.

My own sense on this is that while the use of drones will be inevitable in the future, the real issue here is the casual incorporation of the federal military apparatus in local – police- and sheriff-level – law enforcement activities.  Big-city police departments will no doubt have their own fleets of drones in the coming years, as will the wealthier, more populous states.  Civil-rights law can accommodate that.  But civil-rights law must come first – and that means that any process for authorizing surveillance of citizens needs to go through the channels appropriate to the crime and the cognizant authority.  The use of US military assets to assist in local law enforcement, even when they are under federal agency control, is problematic, in terms of both constitutional limits and of the use of the military.

I believe a stop should be put to this at once.  Before anything like this is done again, there needs to be a debate in Congress.  The people need to mull it over.  Technology is going to keep racing forward, and it’s foolish to proclaim that the Constitution is a blanket prohibition on using it.  But the Constitution is the basis for asserting that due process of law must precede any government use of technology that crosses the rights and liberties of citizens.  This issue ticks all the boxes, from domestic use of the military to blurring the federal-state-local law-enforcement distinction, and it needs to be put in the spotlight and subjected to strenuous criticism and debate.

*UPDATE*

Alert readers have pointed out that the Predators are owned by CBP rather than the Air Force, which, having researched, I believe to be correct.  Posse comitatus was never my issue or argument, but the point is valid.

It doesn’t change the character of the problem, though, which is that lines that protect our civil rights are being blurred.

Two points need to be made.  One is that there’s no basis for relaxing about collaboration between federal agencies and the Air Force, when it comes to performing aerial surveillance of ground activities on US territory – which could, at any time, involve the activities of US citizens.  This isn’t speculative; it’s based on other pieces of information not included in the LAT report.

The 174th Fighter Wing of the New York Air National Guard (ANG), based near Syracuse, has completed a transition from manned fighters to the MQ-9 Reaper UAV, making it the first unit east of the Mississippi to operate UAVs.  In February, local media reported concern from citizens about the civil rights implications of the proposed mission for the Reapers in New York State.

In August, homeland-security industry press reported that the 174th would operate the Reaper in a border security mission as well as for platform training.  (The article was also published in National Guard Today.)  In November, a spokesman for the 174th stated during a public display at Fort Drum that the Reaper would not be used for border security.  But the extremely detailed nature of the information about base-sharing and operational collaboration in the HS Today summary indicates that the concept of operations for incorporating military-operated UAVs in border security is well advanced.

That in itself is not surprising, of course, since military assets have been used for border security for a long time.  The high level of integration envisioned between federal civilian and military assets is important, however.  Such integration is discussed with enthusiasm in testimony like the summaries here and here.  And there are good reasons for boosting integration – for border security.

But the potential for law enforcement agencies to get sloppy and start using military assets in unsanctioned ways will only grow with all this integration, common basing, and use of similar or identical systems.

The second point is that we should be concerned about even civilian federal assets being detailed on missions for local authorities acting under state law.  The bottom line is that the mission conducted on behalf of the sheriff was outside the scope of the CBP’s authority for operating UAVs.  That’s not something we can tolerate the authorities at any level getting sloppy about.

It is a thoughtless citizenry that complacently assumes no government will ever try to abuse its authority.  The protection of civil rights and constitutional limitations can’t be left to chance or assumption.  It should be the central concern of the people and our lawmakers as new technology shows up in the skies above our cities, counties, and states.

J.E. Dyer’s articles have appeared at The Green Room, Commentary’s “contentions,Patheos, The Weekly Standard online, and her own blog, The Optimistic Conservative.

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No.

catmman on December 12, 2011 at 5:19 PM

no no no NO NO NO

tom daschle concerned on December 12, 2011 at 5:32 PM

No.

catmman on December 12, 2011 at 5:19 PM

To which I might add: way.

TexasDan on December 12, 2011 at 5:33 PM

To quote the LA Times

“The drones belong to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which operates eight Predators on the country’s northern and southwestern borders to search for illegal immigrants and smugglers. The previously unreported use of its drones to assist local, state and federal law enforcement has occurred without any public acknowledgment or debate.”

So posse commititus isn’t the issue. The assets aren’t owned by the military. There is always cooperation between local and federal LE agencies. It’s being blown out of proportion. When people think drones, they immediately think of strikes in Afghanistan. This issue is no different than having the local police having a FLIR pod on a helo tracking down someone. Or heck, with a normal, day TV camera following a speeder on the freeway in LA.

It’s a relative non-issue.

tkb1 on December 12, 2011 at 6:02 PM

*Posse comitatus

Way to totally blow my credibility

tkb1 on December 12, 2011 at 6:05 PM

I used to have the “joy” of being on a rather direct route between the LA Sheriff’s Department and the beach. It was amazing how much air time the LASD’s pilots could rack up in the summer watching girls on the beach. (No, not police business.)

And after discussing things with the FAA, one discovers two things: a) The FAA will do anything possible to protect the government pilots and b) there is no lower altitude limit for helicopters (at least according to the FAA people I spoke with.)

So a relatively silent replacement for the urban whirly-bird sounds like a great idea.

The current and proposed technology could turn this world into a real hell-hole in a big hurry. And government lacks adult supervision.

CrazyGene on December 12, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Yes, this is a good thing, as is military detention for terrorist. Especially since Homeland Security has already identified returning AmVets and White Christian Gun Owners as potential terrorists. Can’t be too careful when the future of the Obama Presidency is at stake.

Sovereign Citizens? See? That’s the kind of subversion I’m talking about. Who was that racist LA cop who moved to Idaho? Him too.

/It’s for the children, you see? The future of the country.

Skandia Recluse on December 12, 2011 at 6:17 PM

I’m personally looking forward to predator drones blowing away the cars in these LA car chases that happen several times per week.

Incoming… BOOM!!! Clean up on aisle 6, please.

HopeHeFails on December 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Sounds like a good enough idea that law enforcement agencies should start buying their own, like they have done with helicopters for decades.

Count to 10 on December 12, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Harman helped block attempts by DHS in 2008 and 2010 to use military intelligence satellites in domestic (federal) law enforcement.

That’s obnoxious. Not letting law enforcement use whatever resources can be made available to them is like asking them to ware blindfolds.

Count to 10 on December 12, 2011 at 8:27 PM

No different than police using helo’s developed by the military.

Now if they are armed with Hellfires, that would be a different story…

E. Kiefaber on December 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM

No!

golfmann on December 12, 2011 at 10:43 PM

That’s a negative ghostrider, the pattern sis full

joey24007 on December 12, 2011 at 11:45 PM

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joey24007 on December 12, 2011 at 11:45 PM

This whole article, well its moot, considering as pointed out above, the aircraft in question are not USAF aircraft, they are owned by Customs.

A better argument point would be weather there is too much militarization of law enforcement

firepilot on December 13, 2011 at 12:28 AM

Up until very recently, the only issue I would have had with this was the potential spill over into Posse Comitatus, which was mentioned earlier. I’ve worked with National Guard counter-drug task forces and have worked witha lot of police officers, so I tend to have a lot of professional respect for them.

However, recent signifiers of existing trends… that is to say, ‘current events’ have caused me to look at the trends in policing with new eye, and to re-evaluate older concerns I had.

This is absolutely a bad idea.

On the face of it, I can easily agree that the police can and should have access to quality aerial surveillance technologies. Like so much else asked of us, it is a perfectly reasonable, rational request. It makes the police more effective, does it not?

On the other hand, the police are increasingly becoming a fully militarized force increasingly at odds with the local populations. The rise of no-knock raids, the use of SWAT teams to serve any drug related warrants, the decreasing of accountability for actions… even the institutionalized ‘Cops vs civilians’ attitudes… all combine to make our police forces resemble more an occupying army than anything else. There are 45,000 police in New York City alone.

So no. Until the deep seated structural problems with police are fixed, no more toys that make it easier for them to abuse and oppress the population.

If that makes me paranoid, so be it. Then again, I’ve never seen a movie where the cops had aerial surveillance where they were the good guys, so somebody agrees with me.

SpikeRHSC on December 13, 2011 at 2:12 AM

HELL no.

Excellent article. Thank you.

avgjo on December 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM

I’m firmly against increased militarization of civilian LEOs. Waco, Ruby Ridge, Elias are extreme cases, but also what part of “shall be secure in their papers” do we not get. If the founding fathers had any notion of cell phones, computers, texting, etc, they would have included that. Also egregious is the no-knock raid. I don’t want cops snooping for evidence, i.e. sneak & peek. If that allows more criminals to get away, so be it.

I used to be gung-ho for being “tough”, but over the years, seeing the abuses of LEO has me flip-flopping in favor of a “spirit” of the Constitution, rather than the current elastic interpretation that favors the powers-that-be at the expense of the sovereign citizen.

AH_C on December 13, 2011 at 8:43 AM

It is a thoughtless citizenry that complacently assumes no government will ever try to abuse its authority.

and

AH_C on December 13, 2011 at 8:43 AM

Agreed wholeheartedly.

What’s next? Local PD get M1A1 Abrams? There’s a line that is soon to be crossed.

Grindstone on December 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM

NO!

How about control the borders and address the drug problem rationally rather than “justify” militarizing the police.

Paramilitary Police

roy_batty on December 13, 2011 at 9:51 AM

Drones, no knock raids (killing a Combat Marine and denying him Med care for over an hour), publishing names of people CHARGED, Id for for cold medicine, but not voting… etc is wrong.
Maybe we can get a drone, to watch the ATF, as they watch guns go to Mexico?

121fxdl on December 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Nooooooooooo

sometimes I wonder if there is any point in trying to save this country.

freedom, was nice knowing you.

jsunrise on December 13, 2011 at 4:03 PM

More tools available for use in enforcing law and order? Yes please.

Mr. Prodigy on December 13, 2011 at 11:52 PM

One cannot assume that, in a police state, that as long as one “isn’t doing anything wrong”, then the gov’t will leave one alone.

The government will use the law to turn normal, everyday routines into criminal activities.

cavalier973 on December 14, 2011 at 12:52 AM

Drones, no knock raids (killing a Combat Marine and denying him Med care for over an hour), publishing names of people CHARGED, Id for for cold medicine, but not voting… etc is wrong.

I guess I am alone here. The things in that list are wrong (although obviously there are some circumstances where knocking would be idiocy) except the use of drones. It seems to me most of you here have fallen into the adversarial view of the police many of you decry when the police inevitably reflect that same view back at you.

However, that is not what J.E. was writing about. While I think the police use of drones is inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing, there needs to be a bright red line between local police activities and the use of federal power.

fadetogray on December 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM

However, that is not what J.E. was writing about. While I think the police use of drones is inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing, there needs to be a bright red line between local police activities and the use of federal power.

fadetogray on December 14, 2011 at 8:19 AM

A million — no, a billion — thank-yous for getting it.

J.E. Dyer on December 14, 2011 at 3:59 PM