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FL Pastor Terry Jones’s Encore: A Trial for the Prophet Muhammad

posted at 6:40 pm on April 2, 2011 by

Florida pastor Terry Jones should quit while he’s ahead. Or maybe that should read “while he has a head.”

Jones, who made headlines in March for burning a copy of the Koran and more recently for his putative role in inciting protests of his actions in Afghanistan, is now contemplating Act 2 of his real-life morality play. One possibility under consideration is placing the Islamic high prophet Muhammad on trial, presumably for “crimes against humanity,” Jones’s rationale for burning the Koran.

“It is definitely a consideration,” Jones told the English newspaper The Telegraph on Saturday.

Jones, who claims to bear no responsibility for the violence that has occurred in Afghanistan since protests began three days ago, is calling on the president and the U.N. to condemn the protesters for the deaths of eleven United Nations workers, adding:

We find it very tragic any time that someone is murdered but we do not feel any responsibility for that. It definitely does indicate that there is a very radical element of Islam.

The pastor recently handed over the running of his small evangelical church to his son Luke so to permit him focus more attention on Stand Up America,an organization he founded to defend Christians living in Muslim countries against the injustices of militant Islam. (The organization is a wholly separate enterprise from the synonymously named group started up former U.S. Army Major General Paul Vallely, which has a different URL.)

Jones and his supporters have already announced plans to join a protest against jihad and sharia law later this month in Dearborn, Michigan, a city with a large Islamic population. The protest will take place in front of Dearborn’s biggest mosque.

If the trial of Muhammad goes forward, it is almost certain to fuel more and greater violence in the Arab world—which is probably exactly what Jones is hoping for.

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If the trial of Muhammad goes forward, it is almost certain to fuel more and greater violence in the Arab world—which is probably exactly what Jones is hoping for.

Really? So it’s his fault they’re as predictable as a sunrise in the East? The truth about the pedophile mohammed needs to be exposed to as many people as possible. GUILTY.

SouthernGent on April 2, 2011 at 6:51 PM

The guy definitely has balls. However, he’s gonna wind up dead on a street corner like Theo van Gogh if he isn’t careful.

KSgop on April 2, 2011 at 8:46 PM

If the trial of Muhammad goes forward, it is almost certain to fuel more and greater violence in the Arab world—which is probably exactly what Jones is hoping for.

And the ensuing barbaric violence won’t be his fault either.

Midas on April 2, 2011 at 9:00 PM

He doesn’t just “claim” to bear no responsibility. He actually bears no responsibility. Sure, he’s an attention-whore, a jerk, a [insert various insults here]. But none of that is a valid reason for anyone to kill anyone else. The responsibility for the murders lies with the actual killers.

I would be very surprised if you mean to condone giving Muslims (or anyone else threatening or practicing violence) veto power over what we are permitted to say.

Laura Curtis on April 2, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Also, Ace’s post on this is excellent.

The proper thing is to burn ten Korans for each casualty inflicted by Muslim murderers. Now, I wouldn’t do that, because I am, in fact, deferring to the “murderers’ veto” and I don’t want to cause my fellow Americans any more difficulty than needed in Afghanistan.

But minus that? Minus that, I’d have a Koran on my barbecue this weekend.

The principle of politeness goes out the window when those who seek “respect” and “tolerance” are murdering people to get it. They’re not seeking respect; they’re seeking obedience through terror.

Laura Curtis on April 2, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Sorry Howard, I’m with everyone here including Ace. He bears NO responsibility. If someone wants to burn a bible, so be it. It makes no difference to me, and I gather millions of people are silently cheering him on. If anything to force the left and the media (BIRM) to admit their hypocrisy. As Ace said, the murderers veto thinks he shouldn’t to protect our boys in the field.

It is the same as blaming the rape victim for the crime committed. “She shouldn’t have dressed that way and PROVOKED him.”

How many, at the hand of religious fanatics, have to die in order for society to recognize this intolerant faith?

TendStl on April 2, 2011 at 10:16 PM

It would be better to admit that you are just plain chicken then to make excuses for the savages; so you don’t have to confront them. It is easy to confront the pastor since we all know he won’t chop your fool head off. So yeah, let’s just blame him.

Cheesestick on April 3, 2011 at 3:23 AM

So, Islam is the religion of peace, huh?

I find it interesting that in Saudi Arabia Christianity can’t even be mentioned. And I wonder how often the Pope or Billy Graham (or now his son) conducts evangelical visits to Yemen, Kuwait, Iran or .

I like it that the pastor involved doesn’t kow-tow to the muslims or press. Just does what he does. Ever notice how he hasn’t beheaded any muslims?

That Freedom of Speech thang is a b!tch.

Robert17 on April 3, 2011 at 6:33 AM

Let’s start having flash koran burnings like the flash dance parties… This murderous cult has to be dragged into the public eye. The dhimmi president, and his msm lackies are on the murdering muslims side remember.

frizzbee on April 3, 2011 at 9:23 AM

This post is dripping with blame placed at Jones’ feet. It’s thinking like this that will be the death of us.

Ignorance is bliss. Jones might be stupid, but he damn sure isn’t ignorant.

uknowmorethanme on April 3, 2011 at 10:39 AM

I encourage all who have commented and who will comment to read the first bulleted item under “Related Articles,” a link to which is provided here for your convenience.

As I wrote in this earlier article, I believe the bulk (albeit not all) of the blame rests with the lunatics who committed these murders as well as burning down shops in their own community.

Howard Portnoy on April 3, 2011 at 11:27 AM

From your Examiner article, Howard:

In other words, coalition forces are now targets.

Were coalition forces NOT targets before Jones’ shenanigans? Like an abusive husband, radical Islamists will always find some reason to attack us. If it’s not the way dinner is cooked, it’s a speck of dust on the baseboard or his shirt isn’t ironed right.

It is foolish to grant lunatics the right to bully us and limit our freedom of expression. To the contrary, we should make it so hurtful and expensive for them to respond this way that they will stop trying.

Laura Curtis on April 3, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Let’s not forget that Terry Jones got lots of media attention in the past on his aborted koran-toast. He played the media. Without them catering to him, front-paging the event, this may have gone largely unnoticed. But the media exercised their Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, and Freedom of Expression as well as Terry. Are they culpable, at least partially, knowing equally that the Islamic fanatic community may well react as they did?

There is the court of law, then there’s the court of the heart, the one I believe is ruled by God. Terry Jones showed his heart and in my opinion it is not as spiritually pure as he believes. There were many more ways that he could have brought out his point. He chose one that garnered him as much attention as he could get. Did he make the fanatics react in any way that they haven’t already in the past? No. Just more headlines to add to their bleak portfolio.

How about the media? They largely ignored the rape of a female reporter in Egypt during a general population demonstration. Had that been done by fanatics alone, it may have been expected. It appears from all accounts that this behavior is regarded as generic behavior for muslim men towards women. So why all the attention for Terry Jones? Couldn’t the media have just given it equally non-event status?

To agree: many muslims in the Middle East seem to be barbaric for the most part; no room in that religion for tolerance, peace, humility, kindness, charity, grace, love. They’ve shown it over and over again. And yes, both the media and our returning service members, as well as the last 1300 years of history

Robert17 on April 3, 2011 at 3:34 PM

, have brought home that story. I don’t need to burn anything or anybody to understand that or demonstrate it to the world. They’ve done quite well in writing their own history.

Robert17 on April 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Yeah, well, Robert17, the media actually did largely ignore Terry Jones this time. But Karzai and the imams in some of the mosques in Afghanistan ferreted it out and decided to call in some outside agitators and make a big deal out of it. There was precious little to nothing on this story anywhere other than one or two local Florida news outlets until the rioting broke out in Mazar-i-Sharif.

Jones clearly has more than one screw loose, but if you bother to read the details (and the transcript) of this “trial,” you start to get the impression that he may not be quite as crazy as he seems. That media coverage once it catches up isn’t always so fair and balanced.

Lynn B. on April 3, 2011 at 11:16 PM

Is this John Brown and Harper’s Ferry? Does Terry Jones cast himself in that role? Because it was John Brown whose unwillingness to let politics stumble along invoked “politics by other means.” Maybe the soil would still have run with blood at Shiloh and Antietam. Maybe there would still have been a Mule Shoe and a Bloody Angle; maybe the names Grant and Lee would still be burned into the pages of history.

But maybe not.

What does Pastor Jones want? If he wants Islamic atrocities to highlight, he has no need of inspiring them, and it seems unlikely that inspiring them will wake up the MSM and the people who believe that all the USA must do to improve is be like the rest of the world. Those people are so backwards they do not see what is in front of us. If they do not recognize the plague of atrocities we suffer now, it is unlikely that they will recognize a new one.

Terry Jones should be trying to arouse us, not our enemies.

njcommuter on April 4, 2011 at 11:36 AM

As I wrote in this earlier article, I believe the bulk (albeit not all) of the blame rests with the lunatics who committed these murders as well as burning down shops in their own community.

Howard Portnoy on April 3, 2011 at 11:27 AM

The 90/10% blame rule is also the one that is often applied when a battered wife incites violence by not making a sandwich the first time she’s told. The Quran tells them to behead people simply for not being Muslim, it’s not the burning of the book that incited them. If a bunch of soldiers went out and butchered civilians because a Muslim burned an American flag, no one would say that anyone other than the soldiers themselves were responsible– even in part.

RachDubya on April 4, 2011 at 3:03 PM